Wed. September 11th, 2019 – Never forget. Never forgive.

Eighteen years ago I was 8 miles from Ground Zero, and 2000 miles from home. I still tear up when I think about that day and the following days. When I think about sitting in a hotel room, with the tv on, but most channels nothing but static. CNN on a local PBS station that was too poor to have antenna space on the World Trade Center, and pretty much nothing else. Wondering if there were more attacks coming. Buying a flag for our truck as we left to start the drive home. Barely made it out of the store without crying. Seeing trucks loaded with generators and temp power, fire engines and rescue, headed inbound while we were headed out…

I still tear up. I still find it very difficult to talk about it out loud.

My good friend from Cali, who used to think I was a kook for having preps, who moved to The City, later confided in me that she can’t sleep unless she checks her go bag next to the door. Her husband got off the train to mail a letter, and then got back on just before the towers fell. Not his day to die I guess- missed him by that much.

You can relive it moment by moment, in excruciating detail and slow motion by reading through the text message paging from the day. Someone hoovered up all the messages, and wikileaks published them. 911.wikileaks.org

Machines go offline, people become more desperate to hear from loved ones, official responses start to organize, and confusion reigns. Around 10:30 the second tower fell, and there are lots of texts about a car bomb outside the State Dept offices in DC. I have no recollection of that news at all. My communication with friends and family is in that archive as well. I carried a Skytel Nationwide pager and email device, and it was the only thing that stayed up all day. I can’t read more than a few minutes of historical time at any one sitting, so I haven’t found my messages yet. You can see agencies and companies stand up their emergency plans as it happened.

“2001-09-11 10:30:59 Skytel [005081201] A ALPHA
gahlberg@usss.treas.gov|RESPOND INSTRUCTIONS|ALL NEW YORK FIELD OFFICE PERSONNEL RESPOND TO STUYVESANT HIGH SCHOOL AT THE CORNER OF CHAMBERS AND WEST STREET ASAP.” — that’s the US Secret Service

“2001-09-11 10:30:59 Metrocall [1545812] B ALPHA
Frm: Luster, Diana Sub: Crisis Room Txt: Joe/Tony, Per Mitch, go to the Crisis Room. Diana Luster Company Security 30/JF00/W9 (310) 332-7922 FAX: (310) 414-9747 Email:Lustedi@mail.northgrum.com” — that’s NorthrupGrummanAerospace

“2001-09-11 10:30:50 Skytel [005060012] D ALPHA
Mike Please call Inman ASAP 404-697-9918. Have you already notified K-9 Team? IB[10:30]”

“2001-09-11 10:30:46 Skytel [003262470] B ALPHA
To FB&RS Recovery Management Team. Please meet in the Cape Conference room on the 10th floor at 245 Summer St. By 10:30AM. Boston buildings are being evacuated and we need to have a coordinated message and plan that includes tomorrow. JM”

“2001-09-11 10:31:06 Arch [0949787] C ALPHA
All SWAT team members are to report to the airport. ”

“2001-09-11 10:31:08 Arch [0867607] B ALPHA
cteasley|The entire World Trade Center is gone. Both towers have collapsed!”

“2001-09-11 10:31:16 Skytel [005344008] C ALPHA
UD REPORTS ANONYMOUS CALL TO JOC REPORTING ANGEL IS TARGET”

“2001-09-11 10:31:34 Arch [0987882] C ALPHA
“Kelley Scott” <|per yr brother Cal get out north|I love you so much, please come home to me safe”

“2001-09-11 10:31:35 Skytel [002820520] C ALPHA
YOUR WIFE IS SAFE, SHE IS IN THE LORD & TAYLOR BLDG IN MANHATTEN, NOT SURE WHAT IS HAPPENING NEXT, BUT SHE IS SAFE. 941”

“2001-09-11 10:31:39 Metrocall [1401159] B ALPHA
/:DDC/: INFO: ALL SCHEDULED WORK FOR 9/11 HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO TERRORIST ACTIVITY IN THE UNITED STATES. MJFS ….. CALL COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOUR STAFFING LCFR-ECC ALL STAFF WE ARE ON STANDBY DISASTER ALERT”

It hurts to read.

I’m still filled with anger when I think about it.

Never forget. Never forgive.

nick

63 thoughts on “Wed. September 11th, 2019 – Never forget. Never forgive.”

  1. The scum that attacked on 9/11 deserve whatever hell they may receive in any afterlife that exists.

    The other half of the coin were the US politicians of the day, who completely botched the situation. Domestically, they took every opportunity to increase governmental power and infringe on constitutional rights: Patriot Act, TSA, etc.. Internationally, the US had almost unlimited sympathy and credit – and the politicos wasted it all. By indiscriminately trashing the Middle East, the US created far more terrorists than had ever previously existed. Islamists should have become pariahs – instead, they are now heroes to millions. Bush, Cheney & Co. deserve to roast in hell right next to their best buddies, the terrorists.

  2. Bush, Cheney & Co. deserve to roast in hell right next to their best buddies, the terrorists.

    Add Cankles and Doh-bama to the list for tearing up the deal with Libya and allowing Khadaffy to die in such a grisly manner. That’s the decision that’s currently haunting us in Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela.

    There is hope. Trump showed Mustache Boy the door. Though, in retrospect, Bolton never should have been there in the first place.

  3. @Greg: Absolutely right. “Peace Prize” Obama has a lot to answer for…

    I would have had more respect for Doh-bama if he had done what he promised in the 2008 campaign — closed Gitmo, ended the “wars”, and stayed out of future misadventures in the Middle East.

    Doh-bama was elected in 2008 for a reason. When he failed to deliver, the alternative in 2012 was Mittens. Some choice.

  4. On the bus headed to my office in NYC today. I normally avoid going there on the anniversary day, but I need to give a presentation today. I will be keeping my head on a swivel for any unusual activity. I noticed yesterday that the police at the Port Authority building in NYC have been carrying their big guns and have been stationed in prominent areas.

    On 9/11/2001, I was on vacation and watched the tragedy unfold on TV. When the 2nd plane hit, I knew the US was under attack. I went out and placed our flag on the balcony over our front door.

    My office at the time was located on one of the upper floors in the old Pan Am building at 200 Park Avenue. Several of my colleagues were scheduled to be on the top floor of the WTC, but were delayed for one reason or another and were not in the building when the planes hit.

  5. @IT_pro, keep your eyes open. If there is ever a day that has heightened risk, it is today.

    Despite my peripheral involvement, this is never a good day for me. I can’t imagine what this feels like for those who had to sift thru the debris.

    n

  6. We are no longer a great or respected country and our Constitutional Rights are being denied. It wasn’t just the twin towers that burned and collapsed on 9-11.

    The middle east should be glass and cinders, just like Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Berlin were (and should have stayed that way). But look what has happened because we did not keep our boot on the neck of those who would deny us our God Given Freedom. Rebuilding what we crushed allowed the true infidels to rise against us on 9-11.

    As a country, we need to grow a pair and stop tolerating the intolerant, with-in and with-out.

    Pacifism does not bring peace.

  7. I was at Fort Sam Huston, TX, with my kids for their checkup. I watched the Towers go down live on TV. The kids were too little to understand.

    Today, watch the ProgLibTurds blame tRump and every other President except Obuttwad for all terroist strikes on the US. Maybe Mr. Greg is right after tRump canned Bolton and he’ll finish the *wall* and give a big FUCK YOU to the Middle East, NORKland and all the other shithole countries around the World.

  8. The fact Bolton is Tweeting about his resignation shows what a swamp turd he really is. Shut your ‘stache and fade away!

  9. @Nick – It took EBay about 15 minutes to decide in my favor this morning when I turned the laptop mess over to them to arbitrate.

    I had a half dozen pictures, maintained politeness in my responses (even when accused of fraud), and offered to eat postage costs if the seller agreed to accept the return without EBay getting involved. I’m guessing that some kind of automatic process is involved unless one party appeals.

  10. “The fact Bolton is Tweeting about his resignation shows what a swamp turd he really is.”

    — yes, clearly he thinks he’s more important personally than the job. IDK, but I think T put him there because he thought of him as a hard@ss who could speak plainly and get things done. The problem is that pretty much by definition, anyone qualified for most .gov positions is by definition going to be a swamp creature.

    n

  11. I had just gotten back from my first trip to Germany. I had arrived back in the US on 9/8. The original plan for the trip was for 11 days but shortened to 7 because of my bosses at work. I was too important to be gone that long but not so important I could not be laid off two years later.

    Had I been in Germany when 9/11 happened I would have been stuck for a couple of weeks. I could have stayed with the family of our past exchange student but it would have gotten old fast. I am sure they would have understood and accommodated us but I would not have felt good about staying. So I sort of dodged a bullet.

    Eighteen years later and we are electing people of same bloodline that orchestrated 9/11 to congress. Islam is the friend of no one except themselves. Muslims should never be allowed to hold office, period.

  12. Any muslim who holds public office in the US is by definition an oathbreaker, either of their muslim faith or of their US oath of office. Islam is incompatible with western civilization. There is no other way to put it. They have not had their Reformation, and can’t because Mo’s word is inviolate. To have a Reformation, they would have to renounce Islam, and that ain’t gonna happen.

    n

  13. Strange, WordPress logged me out of this site after my last comment and the link to log back in (at the bottom of the right column) is no longer there. Did I piss off some politically correct AI at WordPress?

    Anyway, why I am back, I am not a religious scholar or expert but I have a bit more experience and knowledge of religions and history than the vast majority of people. The concept of a “Reformation” is important. We are imperfect creatures that have arbitrarily been given Dominion over all that is on this corporeal planet. Quite a responsibility and it requires having a foundation (I will submit that the Ten Commandments are that) and learning from the past (very seldom done).

    Anyone, or group, that places themselves as supreme and the only way immediately flag themselves as unworthy of the responsibility of being a human being. Life was meant to be simple and rewarding, just follow the simple rules (again I pull out my Ten Commandments).

    There is only One True Forgiveness and it is not ours’ to give. Sure, we may profess forgiveness for a person’s transgressions, but there is an Ultimate Judge who will decide IF a person truly is forgiven. People think they are living a Righteous Life going around “forgiving” everyone, but unless there is positive change and restitution the Ultimate Judge will not be forgiving.

    @RBT (RIP Dave Hardy) could probably better say what I am trying to and how I wish we could have a face-to-face discussion.

    I know I may have ruffled a few feathers and confused a few folks, but please try to see what I am driving at. We should not have to enforce a proper life but neither should we tolerate those who care only for themselves. We have chosen to elect people who do not govern in our best interest. Until we clean house there will be no light on the horizon.

    If we all built our lives on the Foundation we were given Our House would stand and all would prosper. A simple fact that seems to be too hard for many to grasp.

    Peace. Fair winds and following seas. Always vigilant.

  14. @DadCooks

    You’ll get ‘logged out’ via a click in the upper right corner, or if you clear the cookies for the site.

    Or sunspots.

  15. “We have chosen to elect people who do not govern in our best interest.”

    Generally speaking, y’all don’t get to choose anyone or anything. There is too much power at stake, too much money in play, and the politicians are far removed from the individual voters. So it becomes a scripted popularity contest. Obama didn’t win because he had ever achieved anything; the same goes for the Shrub. Both were chosen by the Swamp, and the voters were basically told how they were going to vote.

    Trump caused a fracture in this pattern. Sadly, he has proven unable to drain the swamp. Once he is gone, the script will be re-imposed with a vengeance.

  16. @RickH, regarding logging out: I am aware of the first two items you mention. This site and other important sites (like banks, credit cards, insurance, medical, and Amazon) have their cookies preserved and saved. I only use CCleaner to clear cookies and there is an option to specify cookies to retain.

    Now the sunspots, that must be it.

    It also could be that I notice that there must be a time limit on being logged in that is some period of days or weeks. I might have hit that.

    @RickH, again, thanks for making this the best-kept blog on the internet.

  17. Islam is the friend of no one except themselves. Muslims should never be allowed to hold office, period.

    I approve of this.

    I do not want to live in a Theocracy.

    Europe will be a Caliphate in two generations. Their time to stop this from happening has probably already passed.

  18. @RBT (RIP Dave Hardy) could probably better say what I am trying to and how I wish we could have a face-to-face discussion.

    Do you mean Dave Hardy ? @RBT was an atheist.

    Dave Hardy was truly eloquent. I would have liked to have met Dave Hardy face to face also.

  19. @RickH, again, thanks for making this the best-kept blog on the internet.

    Yes.

    The only thing that I would change now is to put the calendar at the top of the page for the mobile version. I have trouble finding NEXT and PREVIOUS on my phone now.

  20. “U.S. natural gas demand seen rising to record highs”
    http://gasprocessingnews.com/news/us-natural-gas-demand-seen-rising-to-record-highs.aspx

    “U.S. dry natural gas production will rise to an all-time high of 91.39 billion cubic feet per day (bcfd) in 2019 from a record high of 83.39 bcfd last year, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in its Short Term Energy Outlook (STEO) on Tuesday.”

    The USA is well on its transition from solid and liquid fuels to natural gas for electric power production. This is a huge transition and is causing as many problems as it solves. Of course, the greenies want all fossil and nuclear fuel usage to stop immediately in the USA and Europe. India and China are exempt since they are “developing” nations.

    “Nuclear’s share of generation was expected to hold around 20% in 2019 and 2020, while renewables will rise from 17% in 2018 to 18% in 2019 and 19% in 2020.”

    “U.S. carbon emissions have mostly declined since peaking at 6,001 million tonnes in 2007 as the power sector burns less coal, falling to a 25-year low of 5,133 million tonnes in 2017.”

  21. “Pete Buttigieg flies around in his private jet while telling you to stop driving your SUVs. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2019.”

    Wow, is that ever true !

    Does Buttigieg have a private jet outside of the campaign?

    I don’t see Mayor Pete or Tulsi Gabbard getting anywhere unless Trump starts a shooting war with Iran. Firing Mustache Boy makes that unlikely in the near term.

    If Trump really wanted to mess with the Dems, he would hire Gabbard to replace Mustache Boy. He interviewed her for the job once IIRC.


  22. @Greg: Absolutely right. “Peace Prize” Obama has a lot to answer for…

    I remember thinking it was the first Nobel Peace Price given for what someone said they were going to do rather than for what they had already done.

    Unfortunately for Prog Dems, I went to the doctor last month but still got billed for it, there are still prisoners in Gitmo, there are still troops on the ground in the Middle East, the Patriot Act is still in force, most of our electricity still comes from fossil fuels, illegal immigrants are still illegal, and I can still go buy an assault rifle. So, explain to me again why progs have him on a pedestal.

  23. @lynn, good catch I meant to say @OFD but at least I got Dave’s name correct in my parenthetical note. And even though @RBT professed to be an Atheist he could hold his own in a religious discussion and add a valuable perspective. Atheism is a religion, even though @RBT would probably argue otherwise.

  24. Do you mean Dave Hardy ? @RBT was an atheist.

    IIRC, I once, here, many years ago, said that he and I were Pantheistic Deists.

    It is with the Grand Method of Science, that all physical things should have a creator and a scientific scenario for the creation. Well, as of today, we name the creator of the universe and all things as God. But so far, we do not yet have the scientific basis for how God created everything. Personally, I don’t accept the 6 day scenario.

    You might try Wikipedia or Google for my recollection of pantheistic deism.

  25. For example, Lynn can tell you, scientifically, how to create CO2 and H20 from CH4 and O2.

    OTOH, I can not tell you how God created, C, H, and O originally.

  26. Now that the CDC *thinks* vape liquids *might* have caused the death of six people: THE FDA IS BANNING ALL FLAVORED VAPE LIQUIDS MINUS TOBACCO. Welkome to Amerika, Comrades! A Federal overreach of massive proportions. Not even a scientific study just: FUCK!! WE GOTTA DO SUMPIN’ TO SAVE THE CHILLIN’S.

  27. OTOH, I can not tell you how God created, C, H, and O originally.

    The first book of Genesis tells us how. “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.”
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=NIV

    A Chemistry PhD friend of mine has theorized that the “first day” actually took place over seven ??? billion years. I do not doubt his math and analysis. I’ve told him to write a book but I doubt that he is going to do it.

  28. “Home Coming (The Survivalist) (Volume 10)” by Angery American
    https://www.amazon.com/Home-Coming-Survivalist-10-American/dp/0996696059/?tag=ttgnet-20

    Book number of number ten of a ten book apocalyptic EMP series. I read the well printed and bound POD (print on demand) trade paperback self published by the author. This book is reputedly the conclusion of the “Going Home” series. But, who knows ?

    It has been a year since the giant nuke was exploded above Kansas. The resulting EMP destroyed the electrical systems and computers inside the USA without a sound or flash. The nuke was so strong that even England was affected. Since then, half of the USA population has died due to starvation and violence.

    Prior to this book, a Chinese invasion fleet off the west coast of the USA was nuked by the USA military. In response, the Chinese nuked a military base in Florida, also nuking Tampa as a side effect. The USA military did not continue nuking targets in China. But a Russian invasion fleet has landed on the eastern side of Florida and the Russians are sending out scout units.

    BTW, the author has a website at:
    https://www.angeryamerican.tv/

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.8 out of 5 stars (503 reviews)

  29. Currently at Rock Island State Park southwest of Sparta TN. Took the RV (trailer) out for four days and three nights. Site has electricity and water but no sewer connection. That is OK as we can go for three days before needing to dump the tanks.

    Really hot yesterday, A/C in the trailer could barely keep up. Bicycle had a flat front tire so went into Sparta to get it fixed. Little hole in the wall bicycle shop. Guy was thorough replacing the guard over the spokes, replacing the tube and even aligning the front wheel (tightening spokes so the wheel runs true).

    Today has been cooler as there are clouds and threat of some thunderstorms. Nothing has materialized thus far.

    Still getting used to the trailer, buying a few things to stock up on so we can just connect and go. Mostly cooking utensils and bathroom items. I have discovered a leaking propane line from one tank to the tank switch. Move it and it leaks, leave it alone and it is OK. I will need to replace that when I get back. Uses propane for the refrigerator when traveling, cooking and to provide heat for the water. Don’t need to use for water heating when connected to electricity and the refrigerator switches to electricity when connected.

    No cell service here and no TV reception. Using WiFi in the state park, slow but seems to work OK. Wife can call her mother using WiFi calling on her cell phone. Most state parks with campsites are now providing WiFi for the campers.

    It is really amazing how dark it can be when there are no ambient lights around. Only a couple of other people here with their trailers and everyone turns off their exterior lights around 11:00 PM thus making it really dark. Also very quiet. Site is fairly private and we can leave most of the curtains open all the time.

    Will return home on Friday. Two hour trip, about 100 miles, will take about 15 gallons of fuel and I have to deal with a 1,500 foot change in elevation, going up, and then back down. Trailer package option in the F-150 really helps.

  30. So, explain to me again why progs have him on a pedestal.

    The term I have read on some web sites is “Magic Negro”.

    [shrug] I wonder sometimes how he got on the ballot.

    I know a lot of folks voted for O partly because he’s colored (so we ain’t looking racist) (which is total BS, but…. ) but mostly because the other choices seemed much worse. Hillary? McCain? Romney? For real?

    I voted for Trump because BFYTW. It seems I’ve had the same few uni-party idiots to vote for since forever.

  31. In response, the Chinese nuked a military base in Florida, also nuking Tampa as a side effect.

    A nuke dropped on MacDill would have to be really small to avoid destroying Downtown Tampa, the airports and a good chunk of the modern day Pinellas business district in NE St. Petersburg.

    It would also wipe out the gasoline terminal which receives the shipments which supply most of Central Florida, including Orlando, and the port terminals through which a huge amount of phosphate ships around the world to be used in fertilizer. A lot of the Florida economy would vaporize with the base.

    Of course, the legally-sanctioned price gouging gas stations in Orlando would have gas, but no one else would in Central Florida. 🙂

  32. “SPEAK UP: House committee moves gun control forward”
    https://gunowners.org/alert09112019/

    “And GOA never declares victory until Congress has adjourned without passing anti-gun legislation.”

    “But we may have turned a corner yesterday when the House Judiciary Committee reported three bills on its anti-gun agenda with zero Republican votes!”

    “Among the bills passed was a “red flag” Gun Confiscation bill (H.R. 1236) which lying media outlets have fraudulently reported as gaining popularity among Senate and House Republicans.”

    “This gun confiscation bill — which was rejected by all House Judiciary Republicans — contained a “bribe pot” of money intended to entice all 50 states into adopting this horrific proposal.”

    “This action is another blow for legislation that has been drafted on the other side of Capitol Hill side by Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) — a bill which GOA is vigorously urging Senate Republicans to reject.”

    “Also facing uniform GOP resistance in committee was a bill to ban standard-capacity magazines that hold over ten rounds (H.R. 1186). This bill passed by a partisan vote and will surely face a Senate filibuster and, presumably, a presidential veto.”

    “And finally, committee Democrats pushed through H.R. 2708 — a bill which, among other things, would strip gun rights from a woman who threatened to throw a male pervert out of the women’s bathroom.”

  33. Will return home on Friday. Two hour trip, about 100 miles, will take about 15 gallons of fuel and I have to deal with a 1,500 foot change in elevation, going up, and then back down. Trailer package option in the F-150 really helps.

    Nice report. I am going to buy a new F-150 4×4 soon and trying to decide between the 2.7 L biturbo V6 and the 3.5 L biturbo V6. The 2.7L is 325 hp and 400 ftlbs. The 3.5L is 375 hp and 470 ftlbs. Got a recommendation ? The biggest trailer that I pulled recently is 4,000 lbs (boom manlift).

    Autoblog thought the 2.7L V6 was good enough.
    https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/16/2019-ford-f-150-2-7l-ecoboost-drivers-notes-review-more-than/

  34. “‘Historic milestone’: Senate confirms 150th Trump judicial nominee”
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/11/senate-confirms-150th-trump-judicial-nominee/

    “Six district court nominees won confirmation Wednesday, bringing the president’s total number of appointed judges to the lower federal courts to 105. Mr. Trump has also appointed 43 circuit court nominees and two Supreme Court justices since taking office.”

    “The pace has far outdone President Obama, who only saw 20 circuit court nominees and 74 district court judges confirmed during the same period of time. Mr. Obama, though, like Mr. Trump had two Supreme Court appointments within his first three years.”

    Sweet ! Long after Trump is gone, his conservative appointments will be tearing up the activist judiciary.

    This is the only thing that I voted for Trump for. Everything else is gravy.

    And this is a do nothing President ?

    Hat tip to:
    https://drudgereport.com/


  35. Got a recommendation

    Personally I would go with the torque. Pulling a trailer is hard, especially starting and hills. Speed is not your friend. I am pulling about 8k pounds with my F-150 V6. Does fairly well. An F-250 my do a little better. A mechanic said to avoid current diesels. Maintenance nightmares and cost. Get the trailer towing package, worth the bucks. I was also told to avoid 4WD as it really drops the towing capacity. Living in Houston there is no need for 4WD.

  36. Living in Houston there is no need for 4WD.

    Our ice and snow here in Houston is horrible.

    Yes, avoid any diesel with DEF injection and a particulate filter. Both of those kill the mileage and have absurd maintenance requirements.

    The Max Towing package on the F-150 is awesome. I got that on my Expedition. Five row radiator instead of the standard three row radiator. And a factory transmission oil cooler.

    I thought that your F-150 was 4×4 ?

  37. Nice report. I am going to buy a new F-150 4×4 soon and trying to decide between the 2.7 L biturbo V6 and the 3.5 L biturbo V6. The 2.7L is 325 hp and 400 ftlbs. The 3.5L is 375 hp and 470 ftlbs. Got a recommendation ? The biggest trailer that I pulled recently is 4,000 lbs (boom manlift).

    More displacement is good.

    Turbo charging 2.7L. Geesh.

    Either way. Turbo. I’d be religious with the maintenance, especially the oil changes.

  38. Turbo charging 2.7L. Geesh.

    I had a Chevy S-10 from 1982 to 1989 with the 2.8L V6 and a 4 speed manual (no overdrive). 110 hp according to wikipedia. Gutless after 50 mph. Got about 20 mpg.

    I drove an F-150 4×4 with the 2.7L V6 biturbo the other day. Was quite the opposite of gutless. Blasted up an freeway entrance like a big block V8 but without the low moaning sound.

    The 2.7L V6 biturbo engine looks like a kiddie car engine in the engine bay though.

  39. Either way. Turbo. I’d be religious with the maintenance, especially the oil changes.

    That is how I got a Ford 5.4L V8 to 209,600 miles without a major engine problem. Regular maintenance all the time. I did stretch oil changes to 5,000 miles though.


  40. I thought that your F-150 was 4×4 ?

    It was going to be. But after consideration of the increased maintenance costs, especially anything to do with the front end, increased weight, less nimble handling (an F-150 is no nimble), and the decrease in towing capacity decided against 4WD. The highlander is 4WD (or as Slim says AWD).

    The 3.5L is 375 hp and 470 ftlbs

    That is the engine that I have . It tows better than my 1999 F-150 with the 5.4L V8. Twin turbos. Provides a lot of torque to get things moving. Gas mileage sucks, less than 10 MPG, actually about 8 MPG when towing.

    I did stretch oil changes to 5,000 miles though.

    Oil changes on my truck are determined by the computer. Oil life is determined by how the truck is driven, towing, etc. I generally ignore that and change at 5K which is sooner than necessary. Cheap to help prolong engine life. From what I have read turbos are really hard on oil and the more the turbos are activated under heavy loads the load is significant. Pulling a 5 mile hill with a 1.5K change in elevation is significant.

    Synthetic oils have dramatically improved the life of oils and reduced engine wear. Also increased heat tolerance for those engines that are using turbos. My highlander has a 10K interval between oil changes. Expensive oil, but again cheap in the overall scheme of extending engine life.

  41. My expy with the 5.4L runs and rides better with several thousand pounds of trailer behind it. Without it, it bounces around A LOT. Smooth and peppy.

    Don’t think I’d like a little whiny engine.

    n

  42. @lynn, did you see this?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7452983/Shocking-moment-soccer-referee-carjacked-gunpoint-driveway-followed-home.html

    11900 Longbrook Dr, Houston, TX 77099

    “A few days later the stolen car was spotted by police on a license plate recognition camera in the nearby city of Sugar Land.

    A short chase ensued before police were able to stop the car.

    A 17-year-old driver, Tanazia Gray, was charged with unauthorized use of a vehicle.”

    n


  43. Nothing ever changes, until it does.

    9/11 now has another meaning for me. Today, my wife was given a preliminary diagnoses of CJD. There is a test, due from the Canadian CDC in Winnipeg in a week’s time, that might confirm. Consider this Alzheimer’s on fast-forward. The first symptoms appeared in August. I think she has only a few weeks left.

  44. The 3.5L is 375 hp and 470 ftlbs

    That is the engine that I have . It tows better than my 1999 F-150 with the 5.4L V8. Twin turbos. Provides a lot of torque to get things moving. Gas mileage sucks, less than 10 MPG, actually about 8 MPG when towing.

    But you are towing 8,000 lbs ?

    My 5.4L V8 did a great job of towing 4,000 lbs. Stopping, not so good.

  45. @TV, that is horrible news. It’s my sincere hope that the test will reveal something else.

    nick

  46. My 5.4L V8 did a great job of towing 4,000 lbs. Stopping, not so good.

    That sounds like the problem we had using a Chevy Cruze for 100 MPH toll tag read validation.

    Yeah, the Cruze can get up to *almost* that speed, but stopping in a reasonable distance before the driver ran out of road was the challenge.

  47. @TV
    I’m so terribly sorry. I, too, hope the test you are waiting on reveals something else. I pray you and your wife have a good support system and you aren’t facing such devastating news alone. My deepest sympathy for this terrible news.

  48. 9/11 now has another meaning for me. Today, my wife was given a preliminary diagnoses of CJD. There is a test, due from the Canadian CDC in Winnipeg in a week’s time, that might confirm. Consider this Alzheimer’s on fast-forward. The first symptoms appeared in August. I think she has only a few weeks left.

    @TV. That sucks. My condolences.

    I had no idea a test existed for CJD. This is a really awful way to learn something new.

  49. Yes, avoid any diesel with DEF injection and a particulate filter. Both of those kill the mileage and have absurd maintenance requirements.

    I’m still not convinced the DEF systems work at the concentrations in use.

    Mazda finally made the Skyactive-D CX-5 available in the US if the local dealer’s ads last night are accurate. The company has been struggling with making the engine meet US rules while performing as well as it has in the rest of the world.

    The US version is probably crippled with a DEF tank in place of the spare tire in the back.

  50. The term I have read on some web sites is “Magic Negro”.

    [shrug] I wonder sometimes how he got on the ballot.

    I know a lot of folks voted for O partly because he’s colored (so we ain’t looking racist) (which is total BS, but…. ) but mostly because the other choices seemed much worse. Hillary? McCain? Romney? For real?

    Be really careful. The “Magic Negro” line came from one of the race pimps. Sharpton, maybe? That’s why Limbaugh commissioned the parody song, but people still attribute the creation of the meme to the right.

    McCain and Romney were just speed bumps. Romney had an opportunity, but the evangelicals weren’t sure he would keep his promise about repealing Doh-bamacare so they stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon elder to occupy the White House.

    Obama had someone protecting him similar to the Cocktail Waitress. He reached the Senate thanks to the timely unsealing of opponents’ divorce records, particularly embarrassing and notable with the Republican opponent since he was Jeri Ryan’s ex-husband.

    (Ryan paid a terrible career price for refusing to throw the ex- under the bus.)


  51. But you are towing 8,000 lbs ?

    Yes, close to that when the trailer is loaded. Base weight is 7200, add in supplies and stuff we have added, which is probably 800 to 1,000 pounds and I am towing somewhere close to 8,000 pounds. That is about 80% of the maximum tow capacity which is within the recommended limits. Most knowledgeable people say to stay within that 80% of the maximum.


  52. I had no idea a test existed for CJD. This is a really awful way to learn something new.

    The test is the best available (using spinal fluid), and due to how dangerous CJD can be (prions) only Winnipeg and Atlanta CDCs will do this. It is not always conclusive (false negatives) but other tests (MRI, EEG) hint that way.


  53. Be really careful. The “Magic Negro” line came from one of the race pimps.

    I have no idea where it came from. I just read it somewhere and the term stuck in my pointy little head.

    I don’t listen to Limbaugh. Ten minutes max and I’m spinning the tuner in the car to anything else but NPR…. because I’m driving and need to stay awake.

    I had a fun trip to Indiana several years ago. I made about 3o miles north of Lampasas and the FM tuner on my radio quit. So, AM and Rush and Gospel Music and random preachers yelling “Repent!” or a Madonna cassette.

    Say what you will about factory radios but “Papa Don’t Preach” will make the rear view mirror vibrate. Good times.

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