Tues. Dec. 15, 2020 – so. That happened. So we’re on that path.

By on December 15th, 2020 in decline and fall, march to war, personal, WuFlu

Cold.  Dreary.  Wet later.  Probably some wind too.

Cold all day yesterday.  Every time I went out to the garage, I was very glad to come back in  while we’re grid up and the house was warm, with no effort on my part.  That wasn’t always true, and it might not always stay true.

Mostly I spent the day getting stuff moved around and organized.   I don’t feel like I got a whole lot done, but I did fill two bins for the auction.

Today I’ve got to get to the rent house and address the plumbing issue.  I also have a Christmas present to pick up, and I’m going to try to swap out my full bins for empties at one of the auctioneers.

Meanwhile the march to war continues.  Guns and ammo are still available at a price.  I got eflyers for both yesterday.  They were generally gone in a very short time, so if you need something, get on some email lists.   Body armor is available and still cheap.  You may not be thinking of becoming an urban partisan, but you might want a second chance if you find yourself working at 7-11 trying to keep body and soul together, or going to collect rent at one of your rent houses.  Elements of the left have been very clear that they want everyone to the right of them dead, destroyed, purged, impoverished, beaten, or subdued.  It’s just a matter of which one you hear how severely you should be treated.  And it doesn’t really matter if not all the left feels that way.  The ones that don’t won’t be gunning for you.  You never really know how or why you might come to their attention, but if you do it isn’t going to be fun.

If things go sporty in a big way, it won’t take much to close the container ports.  Anyone with a deer rifle can close air travel for however long they want to, and can stay free.  There aren’t that many bridges across the Mississippi River.  Transformers are vulnerable and have already been targets.   If you can get into the .gov networks and Treasury, you can surely get into the SCADA networks that control the pipelines and pumping stations.  Contaminate a drinking water plant and it’ll be a while before people trust it again.  Do it six times and they’re done for good.

Our infrastructure is fragile.  It was built for a high trust society, and a lot of it is in very remote and yet accessible places.  When there are problems with it, it’s the PEOPLE who get-r-done and fix it.  If those people are unable or unwilling, then it will go down and stay down.  It’s not something you can bring in the Army to fix, or foreigners.  Watch some video of linemen ‘hot sticking’ transmission lines as an example, or of the guy who clears the macerator in the settling pond at  the sewage plant.   Not something for the untrained.

How much infrastructure are you able to live without?

While you’re thinking about that, keep stacking.

nick

59 Comments and discussion on "Tues. Dec. 15, 2020 – so. That happened. So we’re on that path."

  1. brad says:

    I keep reading conservative bloggers who act like the next civil war may start tomorrow. I don’t believe it.

    The left won this round, the progs have no reason to start anything. The Burn-Loot-Murder crowd isn’t going to leave the “comforts” of their inner cities. On the right? I see the folks on the right as mostly looking to defend themselves against leftist violence. The tinder may be piled high, but I don’t see any sparks.

    Seems to me that the US will live to see another election. And at that election, y’all have a chance. Observe the election. Accompany the ballot boxes 24/7, watch the counting, film the entire process from start to finish. That was the failure this time. People knew the left was going to cheat, but the observers failed to do their jobs, so in the end no one could prove it.

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    Edited to add: I’m a huge fan of secession. Seems to me that any sufficiently large region should have the right to choose what (if any) larger entity it wants to belong to. However, 1865 showed that the national government will refuse to accept any such thing. If anything, the situation is worse today, since the precedent has already been set once.

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  2. Ray Thompson says:

    Either way I’d guess he’s still in line for a fat advance check for his ‘tell-all’ (ghostwritten?) memoir?

    I suspect the checks have already been written and cashed. Perhaps several months ago.

  3. Greg Norton says:

    “Either way I’d guess he’s still in line for a fat advance check for his ‘tell-all’ (ghostwritten?) memoir”

    –that is one way they take care of their own. Speaking engagements, consulting, and no show jobs round out the list. Stock tips and straight up bribes are in there too, I’m sure.

    After serving as Daddy Bush’s Attorney General, Barr went to GTE in Dallas as General Counsel and helped engineer the buyout -er- “merger of equals” with Bell Atlantic to form Verizon. He’s not hurting for cash.

    I quit and cashed out my options around the same time Barr did in 2000, equivalent of VZ sitting at $78. Of course, I only had a couple of hundred. He probably had many orders of magnitude more. All of the insiders knew what would happen.

  4. Ray Thompson says:

    Barr went to GTE in Dallas as General Counsel

    Most politicians are in the job to actual serve the people they represent. Most are all in the job for the money. For ego, for power. Trump was not a politician. The majority of the rest of the cretins can go pound sand. They have no concept of what it is like for working people as the politicians have not worked a month in their lives. The elitist society where they cover for each other and step on others for their benefit. I have zero respect for career politicians. Scum of the U.S.

  5. Greg Norton says:

    Contaminate a drinking water plant and it’ll be a while before people trust it again.

    Contaminate a drinking water plant and get reelected as Mayor of Austin.

    That’s what happened two years ago.

  6. Nick Flandrey says:

    @brad, it might not start tomorrow, I don’t actually expect anything big until after the Inauguration. I think that some kind of armed conflict is unavoidable at this point- no shared experience between red and blue. I don’t know if it will be Ireland or Bosnia, but the time to get ready is NOW. Once things kick off it will be too late. The left has demonstrated that they are ready and waiting for cause. They can leap into action to take advantage of the right situation. Since the right has no organization, has been or could be frozen out of social media, and mostly just wants to be left alone, they will always be reactive.

    When thing change they change very quickly. The recent dust up between Azerbaijan and Armenia shows that. Remember Cyprus and the banks? Or how about Ukraine? All those things happened in recent, modern times. How about the ‘color revolutions’? Going back a bit, the entire recent history of Israel is one of sudden military actions. It wasn’t all that long ago that some group was throwing hand grenades into lines of Catholic school kids in a modern democracy. It took 9-11 and the promise to go after terrorists no matter who they were or where, to really end that.

    So I expect that the fuse has been lit, the switch has been thrown. It will likely be a while before we see what happens as a result. Hell, it could be everyone goes home and tries to find enough to eat, if the economy crashes. Hungry people are desperate people though, and that will just feed into whatever happens.

    I can think of a dozen scenarios that all lead to violence and burning cities. I can only think of a couple that don’t, and they mostly just push the violence down the road, they don’t eliminate it.

    Like all prepping, you get ready and then hope you don’t need it.

    n

  7. Ray Thompson says:

    Most politicians are in the job

    Most politicians aren’t in the job

    My bad.

  8. brad says:

    Like all prepping, you get ready and then hope you don’t need it.

    No argument there.

  9. Nick Flandrey says:

    The corporate giant that holds my investment advisors had this to say in email–

    Medicare, Social Security and interest payments on federal debt drive most of the revenue collections. In our view, the federal government will need to shore up these programs within the next decade. Revenue discussions will likely need to extend beyond the current framework of income and payroll taxes to include more innovative ways to address revenue shortfalls.

    — new taxes, and straight up seizures are on the table boys….

    –and lookie here…

    Retirement policy. Historically, bipartisan efforts have led to retirement-savings legislation. Next year, the Securing a Strong Retirement Act of 2020 (i.e., SECURE Act 2.0) is likely to be considered in the House of Representatives. The legislation would:

    Raise the age for required minimum distributions (RMDs) from 401(k) and individual retirement accounts to age 75 from age 72.
    Enhance the saver’s tax credit for individuals who contribute to a qualified retirement plan as well as to expand tax credits for employers who offer qualified retirement plans.
    Require mandatory auto-enrollment in employer-sponsored qualified retirement plans with at least 10 employees for new plans.

    –they want more people to put money where they can get at it, and leave it there longer.

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  10. Greg Norton says:

    The corporate giant that holds my investment advisors had this to say in email–

    — new taxes, and straight up seizures are on the table boys….

    Seizures of private pensions and 401(k) plans in the name of a “fair” retirement for all Americans have been in the works since before the 1994 election, but they’ve been getting away with printing $1 Trillion a year pre-pandemic so the accumulated wealth is just play money anymore.

  11. Chad says:

    I keep reading conservative bloggers who act like the next civil war may start tomorrow. I don’t believe it.

    Isn’t that kind of a thing every election now. It’s become a bit predictable. First it’s the assumption that their candidate is going to win because they can’t even begin to accept the possibility they may not. Then when they win the election was stolen. Then it’s the “not my President” crowd saying how the President elect doesn’t represent them. Then it’s talk of civil war. Then 4 years of impeachment talk. Rinse and repeat.

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  12. ~jim says:

    I think that some kind of armed conflict is unavoidable at this point…

    The end is NEARER! The end is NEARER!

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  13. Greg Norton says:

    Then 4 years of impeachment talk.

    With all the new stories about Hunter Biden appearing in the media as of late, the Dems are signalling that they don’t care about Impeachment in 2023 if Biden lasts that long.

    The problem with using the 25th Amendment right now is that they will need a Republican to vote for a new VP when Kamala moves up, even if both Senate races in GA go their way.

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  14. Ray Thompson says:

    the Dems are signaling that they don’t care about Impeachment in 2023

    I guessed that Biden would die, or be declared incompetent. I had not considered that the Hunter Biden scenario could be a possibility. Tie enough of Hunter’s activities to Joe and impeachment, and removal from office, would not be far fetched. So many opportunities for democrats to move Kamala Harris into office, which has been the plan for at least a year.

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  15. Nick Flandrey says:

    Isn’t that kind of a thing every election now. It’s become a bit predictable. First it’s the assumption that their candidate is going to win because they can’t even begin to accept the possibility they may not. Then when they win the election was stolen. Then it’s the “not my President” crowd saying how the President elect doesn’t represent them. Then it’s talk of civil war. Then 4 years of impeachment talk. Rinse and repeat.

    –not really. No one that I recall was talking about stolen elections with obamma, nor civil war except in the case of gun confiscation. No impeachment proceedings either. “Not my president” sure, to an extent, but mostly it was wait and see. There was a lot of evidence of voter fraud, illegal fundraising, and mysterious powers behind the throne, but it was localized and within historical norms.

    Without doing a bunch of searching anyway, that’s how I remember it. Interesting if there is evidence I remember incorrectly.

    n

    (headed out, AFK)

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  16. Nick Flandrey says:

    Just deleted 500GB of error logs from the CUPS directory. That’s a lot of text, and I’ll say that if your error checking generates 500GB of text in a week, your error checking needs to be fixed. All that writing has to be destructive to the disk and a hit to performance.

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  17. Ray Thompson says:

    My information polling of the students at the high school is that the majority, greater than 90%, will not get the Covid vaccine unless absolutely forced. None of them trust the vaccine.

    Schools may make having the vaccine a condition of attending school like is currently done for other immunizations. I am almost certain that anyone flying will need proof of immunization from Covid. International travel I am 100% certain that proof will be required. The government will be in the position of forcing people to get the vaccine.

    There is no trust by most people of the government and government funded (and rushed) vaccine.

    Will doctors and hospitals require proof of vaccination before services are rendered? Will the VA require me to get the vaccine as I am under their care? I am certain that inductees into the service will get the vaccine. I remember getting what seems to me a dozen injections (using the gun) when I was in basic training. When I traveled to the Philippines from my Hawaii duty station I had three hours to make my plane which required I get six injections, three in each arm, all within minutes of each. My arms ached for a couple of days.

    So is the government going to be in a position of forcing people to get the vaccine even if people don’t want the vaccine?

  18. Greg Norton says:

    So many opportunities for democrats to move Kamala Harris into office, which has been the plan for at least a year.

    Yes, but the plan was that at the Senate would be at least 52-48 Dem. Even 50-50 does not allow clean succession for VP beyond stalemate.

    Someone dropped a dime on Mittens when push came to shove and Touchdown Jesus’ first Supreme Court seat was at stake — my guess on how Barrett got through without a defection.

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  19. Greg Norton says:

    Will the VA require me to get the vaccine as I am under their care?

    Since Friday, my wife fields phone calls all day long about VA patients *wanting* the vaccine, but, so far, the VA has no plans to mandate vaccinations even for staff.

    So is the government going to be in a position of forcing people to get the vaccine even if people don’t want the vaccine?

    I don’t think that is going to be necessary. People are scared. The Fox stations’ video of the ICU which played around the country over the last week was very effective propaganda, possibly driving the phone calls my wife receives.

    At worst, the TSA will mandate vaccination to fly domestic, but I doubt it will even get to that point.

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  20. Chad says:

    No one that I recall was talking about stolen elections with obamma, nor civil war except in the case of gun confiscation. No impeachment proceedings either. “Not my president” sure, to an extent, but mostly it was wait and see. There was a lot of evidence of voter fraud, illegal fundraising, and mysterious powers behind the throne, but it was localized and within historical norms.

    Just google “impeach Obama.” Feels like it got rolling with Clinton’s 2nd term and has been a thing ever since. It’s gotten to the point that I involuntarily roll my eyes the second my ears hear the word “impeach.” Everyone is in denial about how many people have political views opposite their own (the left is constantly shocked out how “red” the country is and the right is constantly shocked at how liberal the country has gotten). It also seems like every time there’s some civil unrest that it’s supposedly the beginnings of civil war. Nevermind that 99% of the people in the country have no appetite for an armed conflict in their own backyard, but somehow a decent chunk of them are all going rise up. It seems doom and gloom is several peoples’ hobby of late. The MSM is making sheep of us all. They exaggerate conflict to sell ads and we’re all eating it up like it’s truth and tanks will be rolling down main street next week. I’m not convinced.

  21. Greg Norton says:

    Just deleted 500GB of error logs from the CUPS directory. That’s a lot of text, and I’ll say that if your error checking generates 500GB of text in a week, your error checking needs to be fixed. All that writing has to be destructive to the disk and a hit to performance.

    Stopping Cups with systemctl didn’t work?

    The same message about permissions of a directory under /usr/lib/cups?

  22. ech says:

    @SteveF asked yesterday about the COVID vaccine distribution:

    Agreed, drwilliams. But that’s not what’s being done, is it?

    Actually, it is.

    The CDC recommendation is to vaccinate hospital workers, nursing home workers, and nursing home residents as the first group. Then come “essential workers” (cops, food production, fire departments, etc.). Then adults with comorbidities. Then adults 65+. Then other adults. Children will be the last group, in part due to risk to them of COVID being low, in part to wait on testing in children.

    As for safety, the experience with other vaccines and drugs is that problems surface within a few months. We’ve had 45k people get the Pfizer vaccine with no unexpected side effects. At least 30k got the Moderna vaccine. What has been seen is the usual aches, pains, fever, malaise for a short time to a couple of days. Two people in the UK with multiple, severe allergies (the kind of people that have to carry an Epipen) had an allergic reaction which was treated.

  23. CowboySlim says:

    I read that the vaccine diribution sequence would be to four groups. The first of which would include “front line” people. However, none of the other three groups was described as including the “back line” folks, nor did it include description of such.

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  24. SteveF says:

    What I’ve seen about vaccine distribution in the US is a big, contradictory mess. I don’t know what’s official, what’s recommended, what’s demanded, or what’s what. Add in the fact that some state officials are saying things different than what federal officials are saying and keeping it straight is more effort than I’m willing to put into it.

  25. RickH says:

    @ech

    Thanks for your efforts here to provide actual information about medical/vaccine issues, rather than conjecture.

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  26. DadCooks says:

    The “next” Civil War started late last year or early this year. There is/was no defining “battle” that can be called the start. This is a creeping (boiling frog) situation so the vast majority of people will not realize it until it hits them and/or their family directly.

    This is a war like no other. It will make the brother against brother fighting of Civil War One look like a game of tag. Our infrastructure is already collapsing, but it is not just our infrastructure but the world’s infrastructure, upon which we have become too dependent.

    I could rant on but if you don’t get my drift now you never will.

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  27. ech says:

    However, none of the other three groups was described as including the “back line” folks, nor did it include description of such.

    CDC has been clear about the groups in their presentations. The media has been terribad at conveying the information. The listing below is non-exhaustive

    First group is healthcare, 21 million:
    Hospitals, Long-term care facilities, Outpatient, Home health care, Pharmacies, EMS, Public health (includes LTC residents)

    Second group is essential workers, 87 million:
    Food & Agriculture. Food Service, Transportation, Education, Energy, Police, Firefighters, Manufacturing, IT & Communication, Water & Wastewater

    Third group is adults with high-risk medical condition, 100 million:
    Obesity, Severe Obesity, Diabetes, COP, Heart Condition, Chronic kidney, Cancer, Smoking, Solid Organ Transplant, Sickle cell disease

    Fourth group is Adults over 65, about 53 million.

    That’s phase 1, about 250 million persons and gets us to the late spring or early summer depending on the production ramp up at Pfizer and other as approved.

    Looks like the Moderna vaccine will get approval in two days, the advisory panel approved it today.

  28. Alan says:

    …or of the guy who clears the macerator in the settling pond at the sewage plant. Not something for the untrained.

    I know it’s late but maybe good to add Mike Rowe* to your Xmas list 🙂

    *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe

  29. Alan says:

    CDC has been clear about the groups in their presentations. The media has been terribad at conveying the information. The listing below is non-exhaustive

    Don’t forget that the CDC guidelines are just that, only recommendations which each State (and Territory) governor can follow, or not.
    For example, here’s our illustrious Gov. DeSantis…
    https://floridapolitics.com/archives/388610-gov-desantis-suggests-one-dose-of-pfizer-vaccine-may-be-enough

  30. Alan says:

    Shout out to TX…

    KSAT San Antonio: H-E-B recognized as ‘Grocer of the Year’ by Grocery Dive for pandemic response.
    https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/12/14/h-e-b-named-grocer-of-the-year-by-grocery-dive-publication-for-its-pandemic-response/

  31. lynn says:

    and lookie here…

    Retirement policy. Historically, bipartisan efforts have led to retirement-savings legislation. Next year, the Securing a Strong Retirement Act of 2020 (i.e., SECURE Act 2.0) is likely to be considered in the House of Representatives. The legislation would:

    Raise the age for required minimum distributions (RMDs) from 401(k) and individual retirement accounts to age 75 from age 72.
    Enhance the saver’s tax credit for individuals who contribute to a qualified retirement plan as well as to expand tax credits for employers who offer qualified retirement plans.
    Require mandatory auto-enrollment in employer-sponsored qualified retirement plans with at least 10 employees for new plans.

    –they want more people to put money where they can get at it, and leave it there longer.

    My wife and her sister have now inherited their father’s IRA, split equally between them. They both have to do RMD’s of the amounts that they inherited from him over the next ten years since he was over 70.5.

  32. lynn says:

    Then 4 years of impeachment talk.

    With all the new stories about Hunter Biden appearing in the media as of late, the Dems are signalling that they don’t care about Impeachment in 2023 if Biden lasts that long.

    The problem with using the 25th Amendment right now is that they will need a Republican to vote for a new VP when Kamala moves up, even if both Senate races in GA go their way.

    Don’t worry, Mitt will stand up and vote for tank, Stacey Abrams, as the new VP of the USA. He will sing her praises long on the Senate floor.

  33. lynn says:

    the Dems are signaling that they don’t care about Impeachment in 2023

    I guessed that Biden would die, or be declared incompetent. I had not considered that the Hunter Biden scenario could be a possibility. Tie enough of Hunter’s activities to Joe and impeachment, and removal from office, would not be far fetched. So many opportunities for democrats to move Kamala Harris into office, which has been the plan for at least a year.

    Rush said this morning that Obama is just waiting to drop a dime on Joe. This was all planned and is proceeding according to that plan. Kamala and Abrams running the USA was planned months, maybe even years ago.

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  34. lynn says:

    “Where Amazon Returns Go to Be Resold by Hustlers”
    https://getpocket.com/explore/item/where-amazon-returns-go-to-be-resold-by-hustlers

    “With a couple hundred dollars and a few minutes, you could go to a liquidation website right now and buy a pallet full of stuff that people have returned to Amazon. It will have, perhaps, been lightly sorted by product category—home decor, outdoor, apparel—but this is mostly aspirational. For example, in one pallet labeled “home decor,” available for sale on liquidation.com, you could find hiking crampons, shimmer fabric paint, a High Visibility Thermal Winter Trapper Hat, a Mr. Ellie Pooh Natural White Paper List Pad, a St. Patrick’s Pot O’ Gold Cupcake Decorating Kit, a Spoontiques Golf Thermometer, a Feliz Cumpleanos Candle Packaged Balloon, and five Caterpillar Hoodies for Pets.”

    Oh yeah, that will be a box of crap. The golden doodle in the caterpillar hoodie is cute !

  35. lynn says:

    Will doctors and hospitals require proof of vaccination before services are rendered? Will the VA require me to get the vaccine as I am under their care? I am certain that inductees into the service will get the vaccine. I remember getting what seems to me a dozen injections (using the gun) when I was in basic training. When I traveled to the Philippines from my Hawaii duty station I had three hours to make my plane which required I get six injections, three in each arm, all within minutes of each. My arms ached for a couple of days.

    So is the government going to be in a position of forcing people to get the vaccine even if people don’t want the vaccine?

    Look at “Figure 2. Cumulative Incidence Curves for the First COVID-19 Occurrence After Dose 1, Dose 1 All-Available Efficacy Population” on page 30 of the FDA report. The claimed effectiveness of the vaccine is simply amazing. With that effectiveness, it just makes sense to vaccinate anyone and everyone with a susceptibility. Or, who can infect somebody else. In other words, EVERYONE.
    https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

    At some point, I am going to be forced to get the vaccine and force anyone who comes through the front door of my business to have the vaccine. That means all of my employees. People will be forced to wear a large yellow badge to show that they have been vaccinated. I figure about June, 2021.

  36. Chad says:

    Will doctors and hospitals require proof of vaccination before services are rendered?

    One of our local TV news websites had a cover article to the effect of, “Can my employer require me to get the COVID-19 vaccine?” and an employment lawyer quoted in the articles said that, yes, they can. The only exceptions being sincerely held religious beliefs or medical reasons.

    Though, there’s a chance that by the time the vaccine is available to the average healthy guy that the whole thing will be a non-issue, in the rear view mirror, and employers won’t care much anymore.

  37. lynn says:

    Is it too early to start talking about the COVID-21 ???

  38. lynn says:

    “New Chinese Study Confirms COVID-19 Attacks Testicles, May Affect Male Fertility”
    https://zerohedge.com/medical/new-chinese-study-confirms-covid-19-attacks-testicles-may-affect-male-fertility

    Wow. Hopefully this is just click bait.

  39. Greg Norton says:

    Don’t worry, Mitt will stand up and vote for tank, Stacey Abrams, as the new VP of the USA. He will sing her praises long on the Senate floor.

    The LDS Elders in Utah ultimately pull Mittens’ strings, and they would not accept Abrams as VP.

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  40. Greg Norton says:

    At some point, I am going to be forced to get the vaccine and force anyone who comes through the front door of my business to have the vaccine. That means all of my employees. People will be forced to wear a large yellow badge to show that they have been vaccinated. I figure about June, 2021.

    Mandatory vaccinations by employers = full employment for lawyers

    Some clever lawyer will get rich figuring out the right argument, much like Jon Edwards suing OBs using junk science. Then the others will follow.

  41. lynn says:

    At some point, I am going to be forced to get the vaccine and force anyone who comes through the front door of my business to have the vaccine. That means all of my employees. People will be forced to wear a large yellow badge to show that they have been vaccinated. I figure about June, 2021.

    Mandatory vaccinations by employers = full employment for lawyers

    Some clever lawyer will get rich figuring out the right argument, much like Jon Edwards suing OBs using junk science. Then the others will follow.

    Good luck suing The Great State Of Texas who will mandate it for my business to stay open.

  42. lynn says:

    “The shooting death of Calvin Horton Jr. determined to be Self Defense.”
    https://gunfreezone.net/the-shooting-death-of-calvin-horton-jr-determined-to-be-self-defense/

    “This was the pawn shop owner whose store was broken into by looters in Minneapolis and Mr. Rieple was inside, used force to defend himself and ended up charged with murder.”

    “No charges will be filed against a pawn shop owner in the May fatal shooting of Calvin Horton Jr. because looters destroyed all the video, only one witness cooperated, numerous other witnesses refused to come forward, and a second identified witness to the shooting refused to be interviewed, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman announced Monday.
    After an exhaustive six-month investigation by the Minneapolis Police Department, with guidance from county prosecutors, there was insufficient evidence to overcome a self-defense argument in court by the shooter, John Rieple.”

    Now the civil lawsuits will be filed against the business owner for wrongful death.

    “Get ready, it is gonna be a bumpy ride.”

    Yup.

  43. lynn says:

    Will doctors and hospitals require proof of vaccination before services are rendered?

    One of our local TV news websites had a cover article to the effect of, “Can my employer require me to get the COVID-19 vaccine?” and an employment lawyer quoted in the articles said that, yes, they can. The only exceptions being sincerely held religious beliefs or medical reasons.

    Though, there’s a chance that by the time the vaccine is available to the average healthy guy that the whole thing will be a non-issue, in the rear view mirror, and employers won’t care much anymore.

    I am hearing that Methodist hospital in the Houston area with 26,000 employees has mandated vaccinations. They mandated flu shots almost a decade ago.
    https://www.houstonmethodist.org/~/media/pdf/hr/flu_policy_faqs.pdf

  44. Ray Thompson says:

    People will be forced to wear a large yellow badge to show that they have been vaccinated.

    What’s wrong with a five pointed yellow star? Worked in the past.

    Is it too early to start talking about the COVID-21

    Probably COVID-23 to coincide with the next presidential race.

    New Chinese Study Confirms COVID-19 Attacks Testicles, May Affect Male Fertility

    Well that is just nuts.

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  45. lynn says:

    “U.S. petroleum refining capacity falls to its lowest level since May 2016”
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46216

    “As of September 1 (the latest data available), the United States had 18.4 million barrels per calendar day (b/cd) of petroleum refining capacity, also known as operable atmospheric crude oil distillation capacity. U.S. refining capacity had reached a record high of nearly 19.0 million b/cd earlier this year, but several refineries have closed since then, and capacity fell to the lowest level since May 2016.”

    “Operable refinery capacity is the amount of capacity that is in operation or could be brought into production within 90 days. Earlier this year, operable refinery capacity declined by 335,000 b/cd from April to May after the Philadelphia Energy Solutions refinery in Pennsylvania closed. Operable capacity fell another 19,000 b/cd in June when Marathon’s refinery in Dickinson, North Dakota, closed to be converted to a renewable diesel plant.”

    Here we go on the road to “renewables”. I hope you like renting your used electric car for an hour. Be sure to bring lice spray with you to the car as the former inhabitants might have been fresh immigrants from some armpit in the world.

  46. lynn says:

    “A.F. Branco Cartoon – There’s Hunter!”
    https://comicallyincorrect.com/a-f-branco-cartoon-theres-hunter/

    “Where’s Hunter? Oh, there he is, now that Joe Biden won the election the media is all over the scandal. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2020”

  47. Greg Norton says:

    Here we go on the road to “renewables”. I hope you like renting your used electric car for an hour. Be sure to bring lice spray with you to the car as the former inhabitants might have been fresh immigrants from some armpit in the world.

    MaaS. Mobility as a Service.

    You won’t be able to afford the tolls on the surface streets driving your personal car.

    The demo that blew up at the last job which led to my firing involved testing new technology to enable tolling surface streets for one large metropolitan customer in the Northeast. Sooner or later, though, they will fire my knucklehead lead who decided to retire on the job instead of retiring to the golf course.

  48. RickH says:

    Retracing the Donner Party’s Survivor’s Trek for Rescue. Live maps, social media, and a very interesting story. Web site is here: https://www.forlornhope.org/ . And they are hoping for snow – lots of it – to make it more realistic. (Although they are using latest tech and have support and food, etc.) Must research into the history of the Donner Party.

    Article from local media in Sacramento CA. https://kutv.com/news/local/athletes-to-retrace-sierra-escape-of-donner-party-survivors-12-15-2020-224617663?fbclid=IwAR1644ssDHfGMeEu6q9lbj3AG5ireB6mnk8-f1BBd-c9ksOHbBR53mIuyrQ

  49. Greg Norton says:

    Retracing the Donner Party’s Survivor’s Trek for Rescue. Live maps, social media, and a very interesting story. Web site is here: https://www.forlornhope.org/ . And they are hoping for snow – lots of it – to make it more realistic. (Although they are using latest tech and have support and food, etc.) Must research into the history of the Donner Party.

    And a sommelier!

    Linked from that story:

    https://kutv.com/news/local/new-luxury-train-between-moab-and-denver-coming-next-year

    Westworld!

  50. SteveF says:

    And they are hoping for snow – lots of it – to make it more realistic.

    Shouldn’t they start out starving and sick, to make it more realistic?

    Similar to the marathon discussion a few days ago: for proper realism, the runners should work hard all day, then do the race in flat sandals with no one handing them water along the way.

  51. Nick Flandrey says:

    Home from my tasks.

    WRT impeachment for Obamma- if there was talk that’s all it was. Trump was actually impeached was he not?

    WRT civil war- the shooting started some time ago. It’s been small skirmishes and sneak attacks so far. That won’t last. The two sides have nothing in common. There isn’t even a possibility of reconciliation. I could link the maps again but just google “clinton archipeligo map” “election results by county” and “election map by county and gdp”. The media they consume is opposites. My lefty friend was worried that if Trump won, his supporters would become violent. NEVER EVER connected antifa and blm rioting with either violence or the left. He was genuinely worried, and when I pointed out that we already had political violence and is was coming entirely from the left and that it wasn’t Trump supporters that were rioting nightly, he made a really funny noise and then changed the subject. The lefty news and the alt right news can talk about the same speech, or act, and report it completely differently. We don’t have the same meaning for words. We move thru the same space but our lives rarely touch. They ran Biden as a UNITER, FFS. That’s how out of touch with the right they are. Another difference between civil war talk this time and if there was any last time, this time it’s a mainstream idea- both sides are talking about it and again with opposite interpretation of events, and they’re talking about it in major venues and NO ONE is saying “wait a minute, that’s nuts!” Add the MILLIONS of new gun owners and millions of gun sales, just since March, and you have a powderkeg.

    I watched the idea that a civil war was inevitable go from admittedly radial and fringe sites to mainstream news in less than 2 years. It was eerie. This time around you have a sitting congresswoman calling for reprisals against Trump supporters. She’s far from the only one.

    It’s a mess and it’s getting messier.

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  52. mediumwave says:

    … The lefty news and the alt right news can talk about the same speech, or act, and report it completely differently. We don’t have the same meaning for words. We move thru the same space but our lives rarely touch. …

    Scott Adams refers to this phenomenon as “two movies on one screen.”

  53. Nick Flandrey says:

    If they compromised SIPRNET then that is a big deal.

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    The Pentagon on Tuesday ordered the emergency shutdown of a classified internal communications network, three Defense Department sources confirmed.

    The unprecedented daytime shutdown comes amid recent revelations that other federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security, were breached by hackers.

    The Defense Department alerted employees that the SIPRNET system was being shut down in the late morning for emergency software updates, the sources told Just the News…

  54. RickH says:

    Regarding that Sunburst attack: If you are an infosec person of any level, this is a pretty big deal.

    Lots of info on the “Sunburst” attack by a (presumed) nation-state. Here’s one https://blog.rapid7.com/2020/12/14/solarwinds-sunburst-backdoor-supply-chain-attack-what-you-need-to-know/

    From the “Internet Storm Center” (a good infosec source) https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/SolarWinds+Breach+Used+to+Infiltrate+Customer+Networks+Solarigate/26884/ (includes a link to a webcast about the issue)

    Microsoft seized the domain used as the “Command and Control” for the attack today.

  55. lynn says:

    “Obama to give green light to Dems to take Biden out?”
    https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/obama-give-green-light-dems-take-biden/

    “‘He ran the Russian coup. He ran everything, and he’s now running this'”

    “PALM BEACH, Florida – If Joe Biden becomes inaugurated as the next president, it will likely be his former boss, Barack Obama, who will personally have Biden ousted from office, says talk-radio star Rush Limbaugh.”

    “”I think we’re seeing enough information on the Bidens now to safely say that Biden will serve at the pleasure of Barack Obama,” Limbaugh said Tuesday on his national broadcast.”

    “”If Obama gives the green light to Democrats to take Biden out, there will be ample evidence that Biden has lied about his knowledge his family was selling his name and office with his permission, and if that’s in fact the case, then there’s likely unreported money that will be found.”

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  56. drwilliams says:

    SIPRNET breach.

    This is what happens with the wholesale violation of oaths of office by elite politico-pukes who are sure that any means is justified to get the results they want.

    Wind it back a few years. What if Petraeus and the staff that helped him cover up his affair had been busted flat with loss of pension and prison time? Time to be served in a Haitian prison.

    Rinse and repeat for every officer that failed to carry out orders in the years since.

  57. Alan says:

    …but they’ve been getting away with printing $1 Trillion a year pre-pandemic so the accumulated wealth is just play money anymore.

    And how many Trillion have they printed related to the pandemic (with more possibly coming this week)?

  58. Alan says:

    I don’t think that is going to be necessary. People are scared. The Fox stations’ video of the ICU which played around the country over the last week was very effective propaganda

    And I suppose this doesn’t help either…
    https://www.businessinsider.com/head-of-white-house-security-office-coronavirus-amputation-medical-bills-2020-12

  59. Nick Flandrey says:

    @greg. I didn’t get a chance to try your suggestions yesterday. I’ll try to get to them on Wed.

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