Fri. Jun. 10, 2022 – ah Friday, the end is in sight.

Gorram hot, and gorram humid.    Well over 100F yesterday in the sun, which was everywhere.   And the breeze was intermittent.  In the shade, with a breeze, very nice.  Anywhere else?  Gorram hot.  And more if it today.

Had a nice night at the pool, although I’d have preferred A/C and a book, but meatspace… and meet space.  Kid didn’t do well swimming, but she works at it.  There were several dads I chatted with from our old pool and it was nice to catch up.

Today I’ve got a bunch of pickups, ones and twos mostly, and almost all for the BOL.   I’ve got shopping to do too, I need more drywall mud.   I’m going to try molasses and water to kill the nutsedge in my garden plot.  It’s supposed to work while leaving the crops alone.  If I don’t spray it on the crops.  And if I can get some.

Then it’s load up the truck and head out.   Work for the weekend includes – scraping popcorn ceilings.  Painting out paneling.  Maybe some plumbing work in the bathroom, or the kitchen.  Cutting of grass, weeding of garden, and various and sundry other small and large tasks.

Gotta get pickups done and trucks loaded first though.

Make your own stacks, and stack them high.

nick

83 Comments and discussion on "Fri. Jun. 10, 2022 – ah Friday, the end is in sight."

  1. Greg Norton says:

    “What Global Warming? Australia Endures Record Breaking Cold”

    Can you say “Maunder Minimum” ?  I knew you could.

    Record breaking cold still fits “climate change”.

  2. SteveF says:

    Not only that, but unseasonable cold and even record-breaking cold can be caused by global warming. (Which is real! And we’re all gonna die!) I read that somewhere on the internet, by someone who said he was a climatology expert, so you know it’s true.

  3. Chad says:

    “What Global Warming? Australia Endures Record Breaking Cold”

    Can you say “Maunder Minimum” ?  I knew you could.

    Record breaking cold still fits “climate change”.

    Yep. “Global Warming” is so passé. All the popular kids are saying “Climate Change.”

  4. SteveF says:

    a sphere of human goo just under 1 km wide

    As seen on https://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

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  5. Pecancorner says:

    We finally had rain last week, so this week the grass grew. I mowed part of the yard and the alley yesterday and finished up the garden lot and back yard this morning.  

    It was made doubly harder by the neighbor’s dog being loose, coming over and chasing me and the mower all through the whole thing.  She wasn’t home yesterday, so I went over this morning and talked to her.  Usually she (and our other neighbors) are good at keeping their dogs up. This one she said won’t stay in the pen. I told her if that’s the case, she will have to get rid of it.   She has at least 10 dogs, including 3 in the house. She doesn’t breed them, just has them. Her husband passed away last year, and there are too many for her to take care of… the last thing she needed was one more. 

    Most people around us on our block and the next over have at least 4 dogs, some 5 or 6. And it is the same way all over town.  What is it with people thinking one or two pets aren’t enough? It’s like hoarding…      

    When the trains go by it sounds like the  Twilight Bark  LOL

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  6. EdH says:

    a sphere of human goo just under 1 km wide

    My father had a Physical Geology textbook, circa 1950, that stated that everyone (then) alive could be squished into a cube ¼ miles on a side. It even had a drawing of the (notional) cube, sitting on the edge of the grand canyon.

    I found that fascinating as a child.

  7. drwilliams says:

    If the people were dehydrated first, the sphere would be a bit less than 125 m in diameter.

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  8. Mark W says:

    If the people were dehydrated first, the sphere would be a bit less than 125 m in diameter.

    I love science.

    What is the weight of the dehydrated sphere? Does it sink into the ground? What happens when it rains?

    Important questions.

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  9. lpdbw says:

    In 1968, there was a book called Stand On Zanzibar by John Brunner.  The title is based on the concept that a single island could hold the entire population of earth side-by-side if they were standing up, but as time passed and the population grew, you’d need progressively bigger islands:  Isle of Wight, Isle of Man, Zanzibar.

    Hugo award winner.  I read it in high school as part of a science fiction book club, and found it confusing, pointless, and not memorable (as a story).  However, I did remember the title and premise when this ball of goo discussion came up.

    By the time I read it,I had already concluded that the eco-freaks and the dire overpopulation chicken-littles were dead wrong and simply fronts for dyscivilizational forces like Communism, Socialism, and other Statism.   So that probably flavored my opinion of the book.

  10. Nick Flandrey says:

    88F and 72%RH at the moment, but I’m sure that will be hotter soon.

    The anti-itch medicine, while effective, seems to make me a bit goofy.  No meds this am, I’ve got a lot of driving to do today.  Steroid and cream will have to do.

    I see they’re moving the made up inflation number toward the real number very slowly.  It should still galvanize you to act, even that they admit to as much as they do.

    Hard goods.   Income streams.   

    and gold.

    n

  11. Clayton W. says:

    The anti-itch medicine, while effective, seems to make me a bit goofy. 

    We have determined that this is NOT a result of the medication.  Evidence indicates that this condition is the normal state of the subject.  Further investigation is not warranted.

    😀

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  12. Greg Norton says:

    A factoid I saw recently in the Austin throwaway paper I use to start the charcoal grill indicated that everyone alive on the planet could move to Texas and have 6000 sq ft of space.

    That seems about right considering the lot size in the new developments around me as of late.

    Not everyone on Earth wants to move to Texas, but it seems that way. Maybe the developers are simply planning ahead.

  13. Alan says:

    https://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

    I resisted clicking the link, afraid there’s too much I couldn’t unsee. 

  14. lynn says:

    https://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

    I resisted clicking the link, afraid there’s too much I couldn’t unsee. 

    Go ahead, it will keep you out of Walmart after midnight.  Of course, Walmart closes before midnight now so that opportunity is lost.

  15. lynn says:

    In 1968, there was a book called Stand On Zanzibar by John Brunner.  The title is based on the concept that a single island could hold the entire population of earth side-by-side if they were standing up, but as time passed and the population grew, you’d need progressively bigger islands:  Isle of Wight, Isle of Man, Zanzibar.

    Hugo award winner.  I read it in high school as part of a science fiction book club, and found it confusing, pointless, and not memorable (as a story).  However, I did remember the title and premise when this ball of goo discussion came up.

    By the time I read it,I had already concluded that the eco-freaks and the dire overpopulation chicken-littles were dead wrong and simply fronts for dyscivilizational forces like Communism, Socialism, and other Statism.   So that probably flavored my opinion of the book.

    I still own that book.

  16. lynn says:

    Yep. “Global Warming” is so passé. All the popular kids are saying “Climate Change.”

    Nah.  All the cool kids are saying “Climate Disruption” now.

  17. drwilliams says:

    @Mark W

    With some smushing I’d estimate 1120 kg/m3.

  18. drwilliams says:

    @lpdbw

    ”By the time I read it,I had already concluded that the eco-freaks and the dire overpopulation chicken-littles were dead wrong and simply fronts for dyscivilizational forces like Communism, Socialism, and other Statism.   So that probably flavored my opinion of the book.”

    I tossed that one after 50 pages. Can’t say as I’ve manahed to finish any of Brunner. 

  19. Rick H says:

    With some smushing I’d estimate 1120 kg/m3.

    Does that include FLASHLIGHTS ?

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  20. MrAtoz says:

    Why is the clot shot still under EUA? Something they aren’t telling us?

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  21. Mark W says:

    Volume of a sphere of radius 62.5m = 1022653.86 m3

    1120 kg/m3

    Mass = 1022653.86 * 1120 = 1,145,372,323.2 kg

    Or 1.1 Mt. Doesn’t seem like enough, but it is dry weight.

    I assumed they would use a filter during the desiccation process to remove the FLASHLIGHTS.

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  22. Mark W says:

    Sphere of radius 500m = 523598776 m3

     985 kg/m3

    Mass = 515,744,794,360 kg or 515 Mt

    That one probably included FLASHLIGHTS.

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  23. dcp says:

    Stand On Zanzibar by John Brunner…I still own that book.

    @lynn, did you ever read The Shockwave Rider?  

    That book made a big impression on me as a teenager.  I wonder how it holds up.  Perhaps I’ll put in the bedside TBR pile.

  24. Greg Norton says:

    Why is the clot shot still under EUA? Something they aren’t telling us?

    The manufacturers do not have liability exemption in the US for the commercial versions of the mRNA vaccines. The point of rushing approval was to give the White House cover for the vaccine mandates issued last Fall and partially overturned by the Supreme Court.

  25. CowboyStu says:

    We are original owners of this house but didn’t have popcorn removed until 20 years here.

  26. Rick H says:

    Removing popcorn ceilings – sort of easy, just messy. 

    Recommend plastic tarps, and a garden sprayer with water. Spray the ceiling, wait a bit for it to soften, then scrape with wide trowel. Repeat. Many times.

    Some try to get the scrapings into a bucket (bucket in one hand, trowel in the other). Plastic tarps for the stuff that misses the bucket.  Later, retape any gouges with standard wallboard stuff. Primer paint, then final coat.

    Don’t fall off the ladder.  And hope you don’t find any mold hiding in there. That will take a bit more effort.

  27. Greg Norton says:

    Some try to get the scrapings into a bucket (bucket in one hand, trowel in the other). Plastic tarps for the stuff that misses the bucket.  Later, retape any gouges with standard wallboard stuff. Primer paint, then final coat.

    That reminds me – Home Depot run today at lunchtime. Killz — $8/spray can.

    At first, I thought they rang that one twice. Nope.

  28. lynn says:

    “She got an STD during car sex. Now, Geico could pay her $5.2 million.”

        https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/std-car-sex-geico-17231170.php

    You have got to be kidding me.  Geico had nothing to with her body and the fact that the insured person did not tell her he had an STD.

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  29. lynn says:

    @lynn, did you ever read The Shockwave Rider?  

    That book made a big impression on me as a teenager.  I wonder how it holds up.  Perhaps I’ll put in the bedside TBR pile.

    Nope.  Now I am wondering if “Stand On Zanzibar” is one of the books that got soaked during the Great Flood of 1989 and I threw it away. I threw at least 2,000 books away that day.

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  30. CowboyStu says:

    You have got to be kidding me.  Geico had nothing to with her body and the fact that the insured person did not tell her he had an STD.

    YUUUP, I got that STD at my local massage parlor Thursday.  Doesn’t matter, if sued massage parlor will just shut down and reopen with new name next town over.  So, I have my lawyer, Avenatti, suing Auto Club.

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  31. Geoff Powell says:

    @lynn:

    “She got an STD during car sex. Now, Geico could pay her $5.2 million.”

    That was some briefing by her lawyer. Of course, it was probably a jury trial, and the ways of juries are passing strange. I have sat on juries during two stints of jury duty, and it was enlightening, and worrying, to listen to the arguments in the jury room.

    G.

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  32. Alan says:

    Don’t fall off the ladder. 

    https://a.co/d/d2KUsrU

  33. Alan says:

    >> Of course, it was probably a jury trial 

    Iirc arbitration was involved. 

  34. lynn says:

    “AOC Brags She Helped Stall Supreme Court Protection Bill After Man Tried to Murder Kavanaugh”

        https://www.mediaite.com/politics/aoc-brags-she-helped-stall-supreme-court-protection-bill-after-man-tried-to-murder-kavanaugh/

    Progressive scum.

    Hat tip to:
    https://www.drudgereport.com/

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  35. drwilliams says:

    Coincidentally, a recent poll showed leftists give high approval rates of assassination as a means of removing people they disagree with.

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  36. MrAtoz says:

    OK9, groomer9.

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  37. Geoff Powell says:

    @NaN:

    I agree the outcome seems absurd based on what we know (which is limited),

    And there was me thinking that companies choose arbitration because they expect, on average, a favourable result.

    G.

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  38. lynn says:

    “True Stories From A Former Car Dealer #6: Cannabis”

        https://www.carprousa.com/true-stories/true-stories-from-a-former-car-dealer-6-cannabis

    “Throughout my career in the car business, owning and managing dealerships, I had a number of occasions when customers would say they left something in their car when they dropped it off for service, but it wasn’t there when they picked it up. This in spite of the fact that there were large signs hanging in the service drive saying we were not responsible for items left in cars. It was also in large letters on the work order the customer received.”

    Ok, that is a hoot.

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  39. SteveF says:

    Something just occurred to me. Something’s been missing from this site. Something powerful but so subtle that no one noticed its absence.

    Fortunately, we can fix that.

    Why is the clot shot still under EUA? Something they aren’t telling us?

    Oh, my sweet summer child, do you really think that the variety of shots, the mandates, the EUAs, the licensing, the safety studies, and the real-world adverse effects have anything to do with one another?

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  40. lynn says:

    “DOT proposes rules for national EV charging network, including 97% uptime and 150 kW requirements”

        https://www.utilitydive.com/news/dot-proposes-rules-for-national-ev-charging-network-including-97-uptime-a/

    Pete Buttranger is getting ready to spend billions of dollars on a national EV charging network that we do not have the power for.

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  41. lynn says:

    “”Dish Feuds With SpaceX Over Starlink Dishes Being Used on Moving Boats, Cars”

         https://www.pcmag.com/news/dish-feuds-with-spacex-over-starlink-dishes-being-used-on-moving-boats

    “Dish Network claims SpaceX violates FCC rules by tacitly encouraging users to use Starlink dishes on moving vehicles when it doesn’t have clearance to do so.”

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  42. SteveF says:

    we do not have the power for.

    Yah, I was just about to ask what’s getting turned off so that the car chargers will have their guaranteed power.

    I suggest turning off everything within fifty miles of the Capitol in Washington, DC. That’s not enough, so cut the power to every federal building and installation in the nation.

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  43. CowboyStu says:

    Pete Buttranger is getting ready to spend billions of dollars on a national EV charging network that we do not have the power for.

    Yes, we have to stop burials for the deceased and go to 100% cremations for the thermal energy to produce electricity instead of burning methane. There will still be CO2 production, but not as much so there will be slower climate change’

    Any comment NaN?

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  44. drwilliams says:

    @lynn, did you ever read The Shockwave Rider?  

    That book made a big impression on me as a teenager.  I wonder how it holds up.  Perhaps I’ll put in the bedside TBR pile.

    “Nope.  Now I am wondering if “Stand On Zanzibar” is one of the books that got soaked during the Great Flood of 1989 and I threw it away. I threw at least 2,000 books away that day.”

    I have some of Brunner’s books in my collection, either for cover art or publisher (e.g. DAW).

    Brunner and Delany were two of the so-called New Wave that seemed to get lots of nominations and eventually got awards, but were pretty much unreadable as far as I was concerned. YMMV, but a sub-genre that could usually be categorized as “Life is a shiite sandwich and every day a bigger bite” didn’t seem to make much sense. 

    from wiki:

    The most prominent source of New Wave science fiction was the magazine New Worlds under the editorship of Michael Moorcock, who assumed the position in 1964. In the United States, Harlan Ellison’s 1967 anthology Dangerous Visions is viewed as the best representation of the genre. J.G. Ballard, Roger Zelazny, Thomas M. Disch, Samuel R. Delany and Brian Aldiss were also major writers within the movement. The New Wave was marked by the emergence of a greater diversity of voices, most notably female writers, including Joanna Russ, Ursula K. Leguin and James Tiptree Jr. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wave_science_fiction

    The exception for me is Roger Zelazny. Lord of Light is a masterpiece, as is the Amber series. His minor works are better than anything the rest of the lot produced. Bruce Sterling referred to him as “transitional”, 

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  45. SteveF says:

    Wouldn’t it be better to feed the deceased to the bugs that Our BettersTM want us to eat? Then when you eat the bugs, you’ll know that Grandpa will be a part of you forever.

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  46. drwilliams says:

    Helping out the clueless:

    According to a recently released poll, nearly half of male Democrats under the age of 50 (44 %) say it’s acceptable to assassinate a politician “who is harming the country or our democracy,” the highest percentage of any age/gender/party demographic.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/06/09/a-disturbing-poll-in-the-aftermath-of-the-attempted-assassination-of-brett-kavanaugh-n1604326

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  47. lynn says:

    The exception for me is Roger Zelazny. Lord of Light is a masterpiece, as is the Amber series. His minor works are better than anything the rest of the lot produced. Bruce Sterling referred to him as “transitional”, 

    I read “Lord Of Light” last year and rated it 3 stars out of 5.  Kind of Meh but I did finish it.

        https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Light-Roger-Zelazny/dp/0060567236?tag=ttgnet-20/

    Here is my Big River review: “A standalone fantasy book with no prequel or sequel that I know of.  Hugo best novel winner of 1968.  I read the well printed and bound trade paperback.

    Sorry, not my cup of tea.  I had to force myself to finish the book.  It is well written, but just weird.  And the book does not progress through time consecutively so you have to infer what has happened against the past being flashbacked in an unclear manner.”

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  48. MrAtoz says:

    OK12, groomer12.

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  49. Greg Norton says:

    According to a recently released poll, nearly half of male Democrats under the age of 50 (44 %) say it’s acceptable to assassinate a politician “who is harming the country or our democracy,” the highest percentage of any age/gender/party demographic.

    Kavanaugh has been a reliable swing vote, a 1:1 replacement for Kennedy, hardly a threat to democracy.

    Long term, the chairs shape the Justice and not the other way around. Comey-Barrett was the only real philosophical shift under Trump, but that was the Payola chair, luck of the draw which went in favor of the Dems twice.

    Plus, Touchdown Jesus was not going to be denied his first Supreme Court seat.

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  50. MrAtoz says:

    OK13, groomer13.

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  51. mediumwave says:

    @Nan:

    But since I’m not repugnant, . . .

    The adj repugnant has 1 sense (no senses from tagged texts)
                                         
    1. abhorrent, detestable, obscene, repugnant, repulsive — (offensive to the mind; “an abhorrent deed”; “the obscene massacre at Wounded Knee”; “morally repugnant customs”; “repulsive behavior”; “the most repulsive character in recent novels”)

    There are some here who would disagree with you. 

    What word were you actually shooting for, @NaN?

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  52. Alan says:

    >> leftists give high approval rates of assassination as a means of removing people they disagree with

    Trump is a leftist, now? Whatever enables your cognitive dissonance.

    Former President Donald Trump defended his supporters’ chants threatening to hang Vice President Mike Pence as they stormed the U.S. Capitol in a deadly riot on Jan. 6

    Hmm…maybe we can get Steve Harvey to add this question to an upcoming episode of “Family Feud.”

    “Name a Method of Assassination”

    I’d say ‘hanging’ doesn’t make the top 5 answers.

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  53. CowboyStu says:

    WRT my background as a Professional Thermodynamiscist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamicist) I will respond to this from NaN:

    Yes. Is this the part where you trot out that story about “out-smarting” the salesmen working on commission who came around selling solar panels, thinking you revealed their scam when they actually just moved on to the next house after realizing you weren’t interested?

    Yes, they came to my house and told me that I could save money with that trash on my roof.  I responded with terms that would provide me with 20% savings with 100% certainty, and they walked off.  Two times, stupid people who couldn’t get hired at a fast food so were working from two solar scum companies.  Of course they would not know a BTU from  an ounce of CBD.

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  54. Nick Flandrey says:

    Ah just when you thought reasonableness might have been warranted, the soft doxing continues…   Why not go all the way?  Why continue to post anonymously yourself if you are so big on real world names?  

    Bob would have ban hammered you long ago.   You are a hollow shell of a person, selfish and craven.     

    Doxing anyone here is a clear violation of our commenting policy.   Do not persist.

    nick

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  55. Greg Norton says:

    Seeing this story today reminded me that we had a regular from that part of Florida who rode out the storm.

    Panama City was still a mess when we went two years ago. The beachfront property on the Gulf gets rebuilt faster than the infrastructure inland.

    https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2022/06/10/nearly-four-years-after-hurricane-michael-a-hotel-rises-in-mexico-beach/

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  56. Paul Hampson says:

    scraping popcorn ceilings

    And use a dust mask, please.

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  57. Nick Flandrey says:

    No dust if you do  it right.

    n

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  58. TheNaN says:

    Well! “Nick” DELETED my reply post because he couldn’t handle what it said. Wow. Bob never would have done that. 
     

    You man-children can have your safe space. It you block or delete opposing viewpoints, you live in an echo chamber. 
     

    In reply to the last comment from “Nick”: my life is far more enjoyable than that of the guy who falls asleep in an office chair dreaming he’s working on wiping Bill Gates’ hard drives.

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  59. drwilliams says:

    @Paul Hanson

    And use a dust mask, please.

    Any vermicullite product installed before the mid-1990’s, or any product using imported vermicullite after that (because the Chicom scum care, yanno) may contain asbestos or asbestiform fibers.

    @Nick Flandrey

    No dust if you do  it right.

    If you put a couple of clean glass slides around the room, you can find out after the fact if you did it right.

    Up until about 1972 it was SOP in auto shops to blow the dust off the brakes with an air hose. That dust was full of asbestos. Fact is, most asbestos is not deadly, and most people aren’t all that susceptible. Old farts that grew up around cars got more exposure decades ago than they would ever get doing a ceiling. Kids, though.

  60. drwilliams says:

    In Patrick Lee’s Breach series, the solution to temporarily preventing man-made armageddon was applying a “filter” that identified and iteratively removed the 20 million people worldwide that would have been the driving force.

  61. Jenny says:

    You man-children 

    Ouch! Ouch! I’ve been left out!

    -laughter-

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  62. TheNaN says:

    You man-children 

    Ouch! Ouch! I’ve been left out!

    -laughter-

    Do you have an actual, meaningful reply? Or just more of the silly bullshit that Bob never would have tolerated?

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  63. Rick H says:

    Although the comment box here mentions a ‘comment policy’, [now ‘Guidelines’] there hasn’t been a formal comment policy here. We (the admins, and probably most of the commenters) figured that we were all adults here, and personal attacks are not appropriate.

    But some have apparently ignored this informal policy. So now we have a comment policy. You’ll find a link to it on the menu bar. It’s also here.

    Please abide by our new comment policy. And comment about it if you wish to discuss the policy in public. The policy may be adjusted at any time.

    If you have private concerns about the comment policy, use the new Contact Us page (also on the menu bar). I’ll get those emails (that will be adjusted to also include Nick). 

    Comments that do not abide by the new rules will be deleted by the admins. If you don’t like the rules, you are invited to start your own blog.

    Play nice. All of you.

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  64. drwilliams says:

    @Lynn

    I read “Lord Of Light” last year and rated it 3 stars out of 5.  Kind of Meh but I did finish it.

    When I “discovered” Hugo’s in the 60’s, I tracked down as many of the earlier winners and nominees as I could, and thereafter stayed more or less current within a year or two for a couple of decades. My first read of LoL was like getting a 12-hour version of Pulp Fiction done in Japanese with sub-titles. I didn’t have the eastern religion background. 

    The opening was engaging:

    His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha-  and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god, but then he never claimed not to be a god.

    and I plowed right in. Had I been advised to do a little background reading, or had I access to the internet and could have simply looked it up and done so quickly, it would have been easier.

    Sometimes there’s a big difference between reading a new book in 1968 and reading it fifty years on, having read the five decades after. Not a problem with TMiaHM, but perhaps a problem with LoL, and certainly a problem with the uncut version of Stranger. With regards to the latter, the original was started in the early fifties by a man who was adult in the 30’s and 40’s and used the common background of that time liberally. Much of it was lost in the editing, and since I didn’t have that backgound when I read the book the first time, I found that it didn’t add anything and in fact detracted from my enjoyment thirty years later.

    There’s a similar problem when you do “archeological” reading in a favorite genre. Lin Carter’s editorship of the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series fifty years ago brought a large number of authors and their works out of obscurity. With his notes they were a lot more accessible than a bookcase full of the first editions. And they were certainly a revelation to all the Tolkien worshipers who thought JRRT had invented fantasy.

  65. Jenny says:

    @Rick

    Appreciate the work you have done and continue to do. A comment policy hasn’t been necessary in the past. I’ve been reading since about 2000 or thereabouts. 
    My observation is folks stopped playing nice in response to goading from NaN. Myself included. 
     

    I do not think a comment policy is necessary or desirable (really who has time or desire to play enforcement agent?) if NaN would knock off with the jibes and goading. 

    While language gets occasionally salty and discussion spirited, my perception has been folks generally are contributing to the overall enjoyment of the site. I haven’t been offended or upset by anyone here pre-NaN because I can take folks periodic saltiness  in the context of their greater offerings. 
     

    Trolls are notable for contributing little other than stirring the pot. I think it’s reasonable for folks to jab back under consistently harassment. I don‘t understand why NaN persists in behavior, if not for the pleasure of the response and for the joy in causing the admins to create and enforce previously unnecessary restrictions  

    So.

    Do as you will. I don’t think it’s necessary.  

  66. drwilliams says:

    from the Comments Policy:

    You are welcome to comment here, but we ask that you be respectful. Don’t write anything that you wouldn’t say to your spouse, mother, or grandmother (assuming that you like those people).

    How about “wouldn’t say to your brother or good friend”?

    Because I would certainly let them know if they are full of “rhymes with it”, but probably not my grandmother.

    The first rule of commenting is to refrain from attacking others. Intelligent dialogue is encouraged—winning a fight is not. Do not attack, insult, or defame or use jargon, slang, or abbreviations when referring to people or groups or to anyone contributing to this blog or the community to which they belong. Rude or disrespectful speech will not be included for public viewing.

    Brandon? TFB? Plugs? PLT’s? Musloid scum? ___ ChiComs?

    I addressed a comment to “@Sue” the other day, after Greg invited it with “Sue me”. Obviously a joke, but clearly a violation according to the new policy.

    If I get too sarky with a comment to another poster, or get intemperate and post in haste, I am perfectly capable of taking the criticism and apologizing in public. In my opinion, having a formal “Comment Policy” is a win for the troll. 

    How about “Guidelines” instead, with the admins fully expected to use their judgement when something comes up that needs a bit of reigning in, or just doesn’t fit the looser restrictions?

  67. Nick Flandrey says:

    I reserve the right to implement the policy at my whim.   Out of over 141 thousand comments, I’ve deleted about 5.   Rick edited ONE that I’m aware of and it was one of mine.  Two were related to our last troll, three related to this one.

    —–

    And I hate barracks lawyers, so attempts to use the written policy against the blog, the site, the admins, or anyone will probably be met with derision and may be deleted at my whim.  

    —–

    I don’t expect much to actually change because I like what we have.  I will resist any efforts to change what we have here to something bad.

    —–

    Additional attempts by anonymous commenters to invoke Bob and what he would do or wouldn’t do better be accompanied by links to demonstrate said commenter’s previous engagement with Bob and this site.  Personal email exchanges would suffice.   Extensive, in context quotes of Bob’s own words would also suffice.   The exercise of looking for them will do your soul good.   

    Otherwise those attempts will be disregarded as meaningless by those few of us who have actually been given the keys to the kingdom BY BOB.  That list is pretty dang short btw, and one person on it is dead.  One is me.  One is Rick.  And the other is a regular and valued commentor, who isn’t anonymous.

    The free ice cream is free.   If the flavor doesn’t suit you, there is no benefit to complaining, just stop eating it.

    nick

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  68. lpdbw says:

    Personal email exchanges would suffice.  

    Are email addresses available for those with the keys somewhere?  I looked once, a while ago, but I must have missed them.

    You know, it’s funny*.  My first experience with computer network trolls was in 1976 on the PLATO computer system, and nothing has changed.   There are people who will never be happy until they ruin other people’s fun.

    *as noted earlier, funny has many meanings.  Most of which are not funny.

  69. Rick H says:

    Personal email exchanges would suffice.  

    I think that Nick’s meaning is email exchanges between RBT and the commenter. Another option is to quote directly from one of RBT’s posts of comments. All of RBT’s posts are available here. 

    If someone claims that “RBT wouldn’t allow this”, then they should reference (with a link and a quote) where they saw that comment from RBT.

  70. Kenneth C Mitchell says:

    Lord of Light:  LOVED that book.

    Stand on Zanzibar: I remember reading it, but not what it was about. 

    Amber series: Never got into those, even though they were recommended by close friends. 

  71. mediumwave says:

    So now, thanks to NaN, this site has a “Code of Conduct”, the implementation of which has been the beginning of the end for many other sites?

    May I once again suggest that, vis-a-vis Nan, we set in motion a good, old-fashioned shunning instead?

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  72. Kenneth C Mitchell says:

    Nick;  itching? I was MISERABLE for several years because my back and legs were constantly itching. Dermatologists tried several drugs and ointments without success, until I found an OTC spray that offered a lot of relief.  The spray was called “TriCalm”, and it was a godsend. The same formulation was released in a powder form called “Domeboro”. Both are available on Amazon. Mix the Domeboro according to the directions in a small spray bottle, and spray it on anything that itches.  The TriCalm is already in its own spray bottle, so it’s somewhat more expensive than Domeboro.  HIGHLY recommended. 

    And Benadryl is also available in a spray bottle for when the TriCalm isn’t up to the task.

  73. Alan says:

    >> You man-children 

    Ouch! Ouch! I’ve been left out!

    -laughter-

    Do you have proof from a biologist?

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  74. Alan says:

    >> So now, thanks to NaN, this site has a “Code of Conduct”, the implementation of which has been the beginning of the end for many other sites?

    It would be a sad day if a troll or a Code of Conduct had a significant impact to this ‘community.” If nothing else it would be disrespectful to both Bob and Barbara. 

    Regarding the troll specifically, as I have mentioned, while it is at times tempting to engage him/her I will not do that going forward. If we ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ALL did the same, eventually he/she would get discouraged and go elsewhere to play. 

    My two cents… 

  75. Jenny says:

    @Alan

    Do you have proof from a biologist?
     

    -cackling- My first three responses violate the Code of Contact (you can’t ‘hear’ my grin or wink – intended humorously) so you’ll just have to trust me. 

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  76. lynn says:

    Wow, just got my May electric bill through June 8.  2,837 kwh for $357.03.  Wow !

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  77. Nick Flandrey says:

    Rick has the clarification of my email and quotes statement correctly interpreted.  

    I re-read RBT’s old posts on a regular basis both for tone, and content.  I try to use them as a baseline for my own.  I recommend it, as a gut check, and because they were and are full of stuff worth re-reading.  Most of them are not particularly long, this was a daynotes daily journal more than a collection of essays, unless he was trying out stuff for books or working out an idea. 

      Anything keyword tagged on the right of the page (or below comments on a phone or tablet) has a pretty good chance of being related to the keyword and relevant, unless it’s one of the very broad keywords, like wuflu.

    We were ALL wrong about a bunch of things, but unfortunately we were also right,  just got the timing wrong for some others.   And some things turned out to not actually matter, like the Euro sinking to parity with the dollar…  Well, not yet anyway, but it was the doom o the day for a while.

    Anyway, like I said up thread, I don’t expect any major changes, except my patience for spoilers  is about done, and I’m far more willing to delete comments than I was before.   I”m not interested in policing thought or word, but I will act to preserve tone and civility.  And again, at my discretion and whim.    That has always been the case, in any case, and it’s worked out ok so far.  Most of y’all know when y’all went too far and brought it back down on your own.

    I’ve made it to where I was going, so now I’m going to bed.

    n

  78. brad says:

    Record breaking cold still fits “climate change”.

    Everything fits climate change

    “Global Warming” is so passé. All the popular kids are saying “Climate Change.”

    All the cool kids are saying “Climate Disruption” now.

    Isn’t it now “climate emergency”? They keep raising the alarmism, as people get used to the old names.

    She got an STD during car sex. Now, Geico could pay her $5.2 million.

    I saw this, in the context of a reasonably informative article. Geico forced this to arbitration, as insurance companies do. Their representative at the arbitration agreed to this settlement. Why, one has no idea, but he did. Maybe he’s corrupt and getting a cut of the money?

    Anyway, Geico then tried to appeal the result to a court. The court informed them that they had reached an agreement under arbitration, and it was binding, as such agreements are meant to be.

    Yes, we have to stop burials for the deceased and go to 100% cremations for the thermal energy to produce electricity instead of burning methane.

    Have you forgotten? Soylent Green for the win!
     

  79. MrAtoz says:

    -cackling- My first three responses violate the Code of Contact (you can’t ‘hear’ my grin or wink – intended humorously) so you’ll just have to trust me. 

    I bet they are on the 7 words you can’t say on TV list. And t*ts (-*, +i) shouldn’t even be on the list!

    Tits are birds aren’t they?

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  80. Pecancorner says:

    I don’t expect any major changes, except my patience for spoilers  is about done, and I’m far more willing to delete comments than I was before.   I”m not interested in policing thought or word, but I will act to preserve tone and civility.  And again, at my discretion and whim.    That has always been the case, in any case, and it’s worked out ok so far.  

    Sounds good to me.   “Nick’s whim” and “Rick’s whim” make an ideal comment policy for this space.    

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