Tuesday, 17 November 2015

By on November 17th, 2015 in prepping

09:39 – I did some testing yesterday and overnight for the section in the book on Thermos cooking. I used two containers, a 2-liter Thermos bottle and, just for fun, the insulated carafe from our Braun coffee maker.

I brought a large pot of water to a boil and filled each of the containers to preheat it. After five minutes, I emptied the preheat water back into the pot, brought it to a full boil again, refilled the containers, recorded their initial temperatures, and capped them. Both were initially at 99.3 ºC. After 2 hours, the Thermos bottle was still at 99.1 ºC and the carafe had fallen to 76.5 ºC. After 3.5 hours, the Thermos bottle was at 95.0 ºC and the carafe had fallen all the way to 58.2 ºC. I dumped the water in the carafe at that point, because it had cooled so far that it wouldn’t be useful for cooking. After 8 hours, the Thermos bottle was down to 90.4 ºC, and I went to bed. This morning, I checked the temperature in the Thermos. After 18 hours, it was at 76.3 ºC, so I dumped the water into the sink.

The Thermos bottle turned out to be fine for Thermos cooking. Maintaining 99 ºC for two hours is essentially the same as boiling something for two hours, and even 95 ºC is close enough to boiling to count as simmering.

I did a lot of Thermos cooking back in the 70’s, in college and after, and I learned there are two tricks. First, ALWAYS preheat the Thermos bottle with boiling water. Second, don’t just dump the dry food into the Thermos and cover it with boiling water. A pound or so of room temperature rice, pasta, or beans takes a lot of heat to get up to boiling temperature, and takes that heat out of the water you just added. Instead, combine the food and water in the pot, bring it to a good boil, and THEN transfer it to the preheated Thermos bottle. You end up with the equivalent of a low-tech, non-powered slow cooker. Oh, yeah, the third thing I learned. If you’re adding meat to the Thermos bottle, brown it first in a little oil, add the water, bring it to a boil, and let it boil in the pot for a few minutes before you transfer it to the Thermos bottle. It’s also useful to have a second pot to hold the boiling water while you transfer the wet, hot food into the Thermos. Then fill the Thermos with the boiling water. Otherwise, you may find you’ve filled the Thermos with mostly water and have lots of food left in the pot with no room left in the Thermos.

26 Comments and discussion on "Tuesday, 17 November 2015"

  1. DadCooks says:

    @RBT – good points on the thermos bottle cooking that I used to do but had forgotten. It’s all common sense.

  2. Miles_Teg says:

    One of my FB friends, from Texas of all places, supports Obola’s decision to import mooslems to the US. The CNN reporter is comparing our peaceloving islamic friends to the unfortunate Jews on the St Louis just before WWII.


  3. nick says:

    Most of FB seems to be infested with liberal hashtag activists.

    NB the french flag status picture.

    I’m convinced the more time you spend on narcissistic FB shouting “look at me, I made poopy” like a 3 yr old, the lower your survival quotient.

    That’s a number that I just made up that balances your contribution to society with cost to save and maintain you after a disaster. I’m afraid anyone who thinks a hashtag campaign will effect change in real life starts out negative.


  4. nick says:

    Oh, and I’ll add that there were millions who thought Hitler was a swell guy too.


  5. nick says:

    on a serious note,

    Texas is big. There are lots of douchenozzles here too, like the liberal voters in Houston, and Austin.


  6. nick says:

    I think I lost brain cells just skimming that piece of cr@p from the governor of Delaware.

    His most evocative image, the jews on the boat, he later says several time isn’t really appropriate. He’s suddenly found respect for the law, when the feds routinely ignore the most plainly written and basic laws of the land. He quotes some activist with a head full of pudding, with one of the left’s favorite things, redefining meaning. “Law’s not law if we don’t think it should be….” He compares 500 to 10 000 and then says it’s not a good comparison… WTF.

    This guy can’t even put a logical argument together. The closest he gets is saying that the federal law concerning refugees gives the president authority to place them in states and doesn’t give the states a chance to say no. Which, besides being unconstitutional under the 10th, is probably a flat out lie, since he doesn’t quote, or reference.

    Geez, what a bunch of cr@p.


    think I need to go smell some hoppes as aroma therapy to get that smell of cr@p out of my brain.

  7. Miles_Teg says:

    He’s a teacher from Fort Worth, I think he was in the military at some stage.

    When I objected to taking mooslems he said discriminating against them would be unlawful. I felt like asking him if he would pay out of his own pocket for the mooslems or palm it off on to the government. Liberals are always generous with other people’s money.

  8. Chad says:

    Here’s the latest floating around Facebook. I snagged it from the Facebook wall of my feminazi cousin who is a Sociology/Womens Studies professor in Florida. I left the bolded parts bolded as they are in the original:

    In the wake of the Paris attacks, 25 Republican Governors have vowed to block all Syrian asylum seekers from entering their states, since one of the terrorists snuck into France with other Syrian refugees.

    In addition to being devoid of the most basic human integrity, that reaction is the height of unadulterated hypocrisy, because whenever there is a domestic gun massacre, those same Republicans are the first to insist you can’t blame all the good gun owners for the acts of a few madmen.

  9. Miles_Teg says:

    American gunnuts are America’s problem. They’re already there.

    Peaceloving Syrians aren’t already there and have no right to insist on the West helping them.

  10. nick says:

    That’s right, there is a difference between CITIZEN and ALIEN.

    Giving refuge is an act of charity and compassion, and is voluntary. When ordinary moooslims convince me that they are pushing terrorists out of their body like a splinter from an infected sore, then I’ll THINK about extending charity, and ONLY thru a voluntary ‘faith based’ organization.

    I’m all out of the milk of human kindness.


    ADDED, when their coreligionists start offering asylum and refuge, I’ll MAYBE start believing it is something other than an invasion. Not seeing the Turks, Saudis, Emirates, Egyptians or Jordanians rolling out the red carpet….

  11. Lynn says:

    “Jeb Bush Splits With Republicans Over Syrian Refugees”

    “Jeb Bush said he wouldn’t ban Syrian refugees from entering the U.S., separating himself from most Republican governors and his party’s presidential field as he pitched himself as the most experienced candidate running for the nomination.”

    Own it Jeb, own it!


  12. OFD says:

    Like Mr. nick, and probably Mssrs. RBT and SteveF, I is all run outta dat kindness milk. From the other billion musloids around the world in the wake of the Paris atrocity? Crickets, for the most part, with no doubt lots of cheers and jeers. Not much mainstream nooz covering that, looks like. Gee, what a surprise. Other musloid tyrannies not taking in all these poor peaceful refugees, yearning to breathe free? Another huge shock.

    And as far as I’m concerned from now on, those in this country who support the influx of even more musloids, and/or apologize for and/or defend musloid stuff are de facto legitimate targets in the coming battles, right alongside their musloid pals.

  13. MrAtoz says:

    How are those Obolacare exchanges going? Another one bites the dust in NY. How long before we, Joe Citizen, feels it in the pocket book with a “special” tax to pay all those doctor and hospital bills.

    The big questions running around the state government at this point seem to have nothing to do with the fact that the Obamacare model as fallen flat on its face as it has in so many other states. Right now they’re scrambling to figure out who is going to wind up paying for this mess.

  14. SteveF says:

    Like Mr. nick, and probably Mssrs. RBT and SteveF, I is all run outta dat kindness milk.

    I’ve got some, but I save it for innocents and other people who have done nothing to deserve whatever crap just landed on them. I’ll give a week’s worth of groceries to an hourly laborer who was sacked through no fault of his own … and sometimes they’ll ask if I need some handyman or yard work done in exchange. I’ve bought birthday presents and a cake for a kid whose parents were behind on the rent and simply couldn’t afford a birthday. And of course the little girl my wife and I are currently feeding. (She lately apparently eats only school lunch and what we give her. She always wolfs down everything available when she’s here. Child services has been called twice in the past year or so and the police once, and she’s still with her parents. My tax dollars at work.)

    Contrast with the “Syrian” “refugees”. An awful lot of them wear newer, more expensive clothes than I do and almost all have smartphones. They demand halal meals and they demand free medical care and drugs. They riot when they aren’t given what they demand. Rapes have gone up 2X-40X where they go. These guys do not deserve any “milk of human kindness”. They should have been machine gunned in their little boats or when they were pressing up against the new border fences.

    Application of this remedy to “migrants” heading toward the US, or even those within the US now, is left as an exercise for the reader.

  15. OFD says:

    Yet our dear leaders wish us to forget our own people here or caring for them, and to take in and bow down before swarms of hateful and violent young males who would as soon butcher us as look at us, yet here we are having our tax dollars thrown at them left and right for whatever they fucking want.

    I fault our dear leaders and dream of firing squads working overtime for many months.

    None dare call it treason.

  16. OFD says:

    On the national security state surveillance front:


    So we’re effectively being crushed between swarms of musloid scum, criminal excreta and the FSA and SJWs, and our own government.

    Many of us figure the S has already hit the F and we’re just waiting for the shooting to start. Semper paratus.

  17. brad says:

    I’m pretty much with SteveF, though I might express it a bit more…um…gently. The cultures are fundamentally incompatible. The best would always have been “live and let live” – let them do what they want in their countries, while we live our lives in ours.

    Unfortunately, the US (and UK, and others) have made the problem 100x worse with military adventurism. Whoever though that taking out Gadaffi would improve things in Libya? WTF? The same for Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria – chaos and a whole new generation of terrorists, created for our enjoyment. Gee, thanks for that.

    Regardless, there is something really wrong with the current stream of refugees. As others have pointed out, the demographics are off: around 70% young males, that makes no sense in terms of refugees. Young males need to go back and rebuild their countries. Of course, the media always choose the shots with children in them, because that’s the story they want to tell.

  18. JimL says:

    70%? Not the stats I’ve seen so far. I’ve seen ~ 22% between the ages of 20 and 59 (male) and ~20% female in that age group. I’d welcome a better source, but I haven’t found one yet.

    But I do agree on the sentiment. At least 75% of the able-bodied young men _should_ be working to rebuild their home. And why are their neighbors and ideological allies not taking them in? Why aren’t they headed to their local, wealthy nations? Saudi, Qatar, Iran?

  19. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I agree with Brad. I’ve always opposed interventionism in general and military adventurism in particular. I don’t believe this country should have standing military forces. We should have a militia in the original sense, with every adult male armed with military-class weapons. We should never have been involved in any of the wars in living memory. If someone attacks us, we should slaughter them. Otherwise, it’s not our business.

    I’m happy that the best-selling class of firearm in this county is AR-pattern rifles, of which there are now millions in private hands, along with billions of rounds of ammunition.

  20. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    And I have lots of human-kindness milk, but only for people who deserve it.

  21. Miles_Teg says:

    “…with every adult male armed with military-class weapons.”

    Sexist. Why shouldn’t the girls be armed too?

  22. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    It’s not their job to fight. I’m all in favor of women being armed, but in a civilized society women should have to fight only as an absolute last resort.

  23. SteveF says:

    Meh. That makes sense only if we need to increase our numbers for the species to survive.

    We have plenty of people. Too many, in fact, when you consider how many imbeciles are running around just like they’re real people. Send the baby factories out to do jobs where they can be killed, preferably before they reproduce, and the number of stupid people on the planet will go down soon enough.

  24. OFD says:

    Wow, I counted at least eight (8) micro-aggressions in that last person’s post….yikes!

    Yeah, how come it’s always been us dumbass teenage males who go out for that shit? Fair is fair, womynz lib and all that! And judging by the phony training they get nowadays so the Diversity and Affirmative Action stats look good for the brass and the politicians (but I repeat myself), they’ll be dying off in great numbers soon enough.

    Situation One: Incoming fire, mortars, rockets, small arms; but G.I. Jane is taking a selfie to send out and playing with SnapChat or whatever.

    Situation Two: (all too common) G.I. Jane is preggers and unable to perform much of anything relating to mil-spec duties and thus leaves the team short-handed.

    Situation Three: G.I. Jane hates her team NCO or the O4 and makes sure to be alone with him and then make sexual assault accusations.

    Situation Four: G.I. Jane gets hot and heavy with one or two guys in the unit and creates all kinds of tension and angst and emotional trauma shit just prior to jump-off somewhere.


    What could possibly go wrong?

  25. JimL says:

    Yep. I’m sexist and all that because of my position. To wit – sexual tensions are the LAST thing we need in a foxhole. I can usually get folks to go along with that. Then bring up homosexuals and it all goes to crap.

    Frankly, the only 2 things that make sense to me are protecting the women (who make it possible to continue the species) and protecting the unit so it can effectively protect the women. Everything else is horse hockey. I don’t much care so long as it stays out of my foxhole.

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