Sun. Sept. 27, 2020 – hey, growing things are growing

Nice and cool compared to just a couple weeks ago, still damp.

Saturday was really nice out.  Cool-ish except in the late afternoon sun, with a light breeze.  I did get some stuff done, but if you sleep through most of the morning, you get a whole lot less done.

I got some more cleaning and organizing done in the garage.  It was only a little bit, but still some progress.  I moved some stuff out of the house,and moved stuff around in the house to put it away, or put it in the ‘to be sold’ pile.

On most days what I did outside would just be ‘piddlefarting’ around, but some things DID get done.  I pruned the grapefruit and orange trees.  I intend to keep them about 10ft tall and 2-3ft thick to fit in the narrow bit of my yard between the house and my  neighbor’s driveway.  I also need them to be small enough I can cover them when it freezes.  The grapefruit has about 10-12 fruits, the orange 5-6.  They are starting to get ripe too.  That will be my best yield to date.  I’m hoping it gets better every year now.

Pruned a bit off the grape vines.  They are basically done for the year anyway.  Never got a single grape this year.

Moved my weather station from the north side of the house (my driveway) to the south side (neighbor’s driveway.)  That puts it in more natural air, and closer to both displays.  It’s still too close to my roof and will continue to read higher than if in shade.  I changed the batteries again, and now I can see it on the displays in my office and bedroom.

I used the Garden Weasel ™ on the bare spots in the lawn and seeded them.

I didn’t get more seed in the garden though.  That is on the agenda for today.  Root veg.  Lots of root veg.

My peas are already sprouted in the side garden!   I better get some steel mesh over them before the tasty sprouts get eaten.  I really hope that I’ll get some viable plants and a crop this year.

Spent some time cleaning the pool.

Went through some stuff I’d squirreled away.  I keep finding stuff tucked here and there.  A lot of it really needs to be sent to auction.

Won a couple of auction items.  Another really nice battery charger.  If I’ve got a forklift to keep charged, I need a good charger to leave with it.  If I end up with a lake house, I’m sure I’ll need at least a charger there.  Having good ones makes a difference.  I’ve really increased my ability to charge batteries lately.  I also won a boat battery selector switch, and some 10gauge jumper cables.  I will look at wiring my inverter into my batteries now, with the AC charger and the switch to choose charge or discharge through the inverter… or something like that.

Found 3 laptops in the trash at my secondary location.  Grabbed them.  I had a charger for one, a dell inspiron with win7 installed.  Someone shut it off during an update and now it’s boot-looping.   It’s a nice widescreen machine in good condition.  I’ll set it aside for now, but will likely get the OS fixed, or use a linux bootable to see if it will run.  There are a lot of ham related things to do with older laptops.  One was an older compaq that probably isn’t worth even booting and I didn’t have a psu handy for it, the other is a really big Toshiba gaming machine.  I might order a psu for that just to see what it’s all about.  I think it has discrete nvidia graphics, and about a 17 or 19″ HD screen.  It’s a giant with full sized keyboard.  Funny that 15 year old machines are still usable for something.

What can I say, I like older stuff that works.  It’s cheap.  I like fixing and using it.  If it lasted this long, it’ll probably last for a while longer.

“Use it Up, Wear it Out, Make it Do, or Do Without!” a plan for the coming unpleasantness.  Keep stacking.

 

nick

 

Today is the two year anniversary of the death of Dave Hardy, or OFD as he was affectionately known here.  There’s not enough Moxie and pretzels in the world for what’s coming.  Miss you.   -Absent friends-

 

Author: Nick Flandrey

Mid 50s, stay at home dad, with two elementary school age girls. Love my family and my life.

51 thoughts on “Sun. Sept. 27, 2020 – hey, growing things are growing”

  1. Found 3 laptops in the trash at my secondary location. Grabbed them. I had a charger for one, a dell inspiron with win7 installed. Someone shut it off during an update and now it’s boot-looping. It’s a nice widescreen machine in good condition. I’ll set it aside for now, but will likely get the OS fixed, or use a linux bootable to see if it will run. There are a lot of ham related things to do with older laptops. One was an older compaq that probably isn’t worth even booting and I didn’t have a psu handy for it, the other is a really big Toshiba gaming machine. I might order a psu for that just to see what it’s all about. I think it has discrete nvidia graphics, and about a 17 or 19″ HD screen. It’s a giant with full sized keyboard. Funny that 15 year old machines are still usable for something.

    My primary desktop CPU is a Q6600, a 12 year old design still chugging along.

    Someone might pay for the Inspiron just for the capability to run Win 7 with a legal serial. I just sold a Dell E6400 to a buyer in Puerto Rico for $60. The catch is that I brought the machine up from zero to fully patched with latest drivers before listing, mostly to prove it could be done, and Microsoft doesn’t make that easy.

    Let me know if you want a copy of my WSUS updates to patch Windows 7 up to last summer, around when Microsoft turned off access ahead of the EOL date.

    Old machines with real serial ports are really useful ham toys.

    I’m toying with an idea that I had someone ask me about regarding SHTF and UUCP and never followed up. I might have a lot of free time soon. 🙂

  2. Today is the two year anniversary of the death of Dave Hardy, or OFD as he was affectionately known here. There’s not enough Moxie and pretzels in the world for what’s coming. Miss you. -Absent friends-

    I’m sure Dave would have had some fun with “the Dogma lives within you” line that Dianne Feinstein dropped on the Barrett woman during the latter’s Appeals Court confirmation hearing.

    Then I would have reminded Dave of Feinstein’s connection to People’s Temple and their Kool Aid dogma and that’s where the thumbs downs would start on the follow up posts.

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  3. “Use it Up, Wear it Out, Make it Do, or Do Without!” a plan for the coming unpleasantness.

    It’s a plan for life in general. The only thing I’d add is,”Get the best you can afford, and take care of it.”

    We had our first frost about a week ago, about a month earlier than the average for this northwestern Indiana locale. My sister, a birder, says the big migrations are starting much sooner than usual. And I noticed that quite a few trees are already in flame-coloration.

    I’m making ready for a bitter winter. Preps in terms of heat are still a bit problematical. I’m working on it. If worse should come to worst, my sister’s house can be heated via fireplaces in the living room and basement. She doesn’t have any wood, and I’m going to arrange for a couple of cords to be delivered and stacked. Just in case.

    The reaction to Barrett’s nomination from the establishment Dems doesn’t seem quite crazy enough – certainly not on the level of the Kavanaugh fiasco. I wonder what’s up with that? Maybe they’re placing all their hopes on the November election steal.

    Just think. 2020 still has three months to go. Whee.

  4. Replaced the shower head in the RV. Supposed to be a better unit that mixes air with the water to give a feeling of more water. Certainly has to be better than the cheapest one possible provided with the RV.

    Also bought an electric jack for the front and got the jack installed. The jack was on sale so seemed reasonable. The stabilizers are electric so an electric jack seemed a logical upgrade. The prior hand cranked jack was not difficult, it was just real slow due to the gearing. The electric jack is not much faster than hand cranking. It does however have a wide base and the shaft that holds the base can be extended. Useful for RV sites that slope slightly and will reduce the use of blocks.

    Next I have to fix the minor leak in the vent in the bedroom. I got caulk designed for RV roofs and some 4″ wide roofing tape used on RV’s. Biggest issue is I cannot walk on the roof and must lean over from the side. The vent is in the middle so it will be a stretch. I may just spread myself on the roof to distribute the load and take my chances.

  5. The reaction to Barrett’s nomination from the establishment Dems doesn’t seem quite crazy enough – certainly not on the level of the Kavanaugh fiasco. I wonder what’s up with that? Maybe they’re placing all their hopes on the November election steal.

    Mittens gave them cover to support the Payola seat nomination, traditionally a unanimous or near-unanimous vote. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few Dems vote yes in the end thinking about 2022. Plus, the political debt is obviously owed to Pence, who they respect behind closed doors a lot more than Plugs.

    Kavanaugh was the first X-er male put up for the Court, probably gamed by the Dems for the last decade, obviously by X-er females with axes to grind, and, despite her being a battle-scarred veteran of tenure wars at Stanford who rode into DC on a Senator’s jet, Blasey-Ford’s schtick struck a chord with a lot of people.

    Plus, Breyer is not healthy and sits in the “Roe” seat that wrote the decision. Trump winning in November means he will get to fill that seat, truly shifting the court. Better not to expend energy on what will end up a lost cause in the next month and hope Roberts bails them out of any 2000-type scenarios.


  6. Plus, Breyer is not healthy and sits in the “Roe” seat that wrote the decision. Trump winning in November means he will get to fill that seat, truly shifting the court. Better not to expend energy on what will end up a lost cause in the next month and hope Roberts bails them out of any 2000-type scenarios.

    This is the real fear Dumbos have if President tRump is elected. Another conservative on the SCOTUS. Plugs is rehearsing like his life depends on it because it does. No teleprompter, so Plugs has to memorize his talking points. If he keeps looking down at his notes, he’s finished. tRump is bragging he doesn’t need to prepare. That’s a mistake. He could finish Plugs off Tuesday with a good attack. tRump can debate off the top of his head, but needs to be concise. He can wander off topic just like Plugs. The best scenario is Plugs going off script to attack. He’ll start babbling, stuttering, and losing his train of thought.

    Chuckie Slimer has said the Dumbos are united against The Notorious ACB. Why even have a hearing, Redumblicans? If the Dumbos even think about sliming ACB, Mconnell should immediately hold a floor vote. Slimer continuously bringing up “Ginsberg’s last wish” will fail. Independents aren’t dummies and will remember on Nov 3rd. They can’t slime ACB, so what are they going to to other than vote no.

    Skip the hearings, McConnell!

    HARRIS/biden 2020

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  7. tRump is bragging he doesn’t need to prepare. That’s a mistake.

    I believe low expectations for Plugs are a mistake. Biden’s public persona has been “Dumba**” for 32 years, and if he merely performs at that level, he wins.

    If the debate happens, the handlers believe “Dumba**’ is possible.

    If the debate doesn’t happen, a change is coming.

  8. First snow here. Already melted of course, but winter isn’t all that far off.

    Switzerland voted, just barely, to buy more top-of-the-line fighters. Whatever for? The hangar queen F-35 is all too likely, which would be the cherry on top of the stupidity. We don’t need super fighters, just a few light jets for escorts duty, plus helicopters for handling large events, terrorist threats, etc.

    Looking forward to the US election theater. I don’t think Trump can lose, elder son doesn’t think he can win. One of us us mistaken.

  9. I may just spread myself on the roof to distribute the load and take my chances.

    Or lay an aluminum extension ladder on it and use that to spread the weight. I’ve got a couple of expanding aluminum scaffold planks I use when I need something similar. Even a sheet of plywood would help, or half a dozen 2x4s next to each other.

    Don’t fall through!

    n

  10. Switzerland voted, just barely, to buy more top-of-the-line fighters. Whatever for? The hangar queen F-35 is all too likely, which would be the cherry on top of the stupidity. We don’t need super fighters, just a few light jets for escorts duty, plus helicopters for handling large events, terrorist threats, etc.

    The USAF just concluded a secret one year effort with an unidentified contractor to develop an air superiority fighter from scratch in a year. They claimed that the project was intended as a supplement for the F-22, but my guess is that the plane may be more than that.

    Only 180 operational F-22s got built, maybe 200 total, because the plane was too expensive.


  11. Don’t fall through!

    Insurance still covers stupidity.

    Alternate plan is a ladder on each side and an aluminum platform on a rung of each ladder with the platform spanning the roof. Lay on the platform.

  12. During the Ferguson riots I was glued to the coverage.

    During these? Not so much. Like covid, and hurricanes, I find that I’m monitoring the situation, but as far as I’m concerned the disaster has struck, and now is the time for mitigation.

    So, in the interest of monitoring, where are the pics of all that right wing extremist violence our would be masters have been haranguing us about??

    At the other end of the political spectrum, around one thousand supporters of the right-wing Proud Boys group, some armed, rallied in Portland, on Saturday in a largely peaceful event that drew far fewer followers than organizers forecast and state authorities had feared.

    The rally in a north Portland park ended after a few hours of speeches and chants, many against anti-fascists and Black Lives Matter groups which held a nearby counter-protest.

    ‘You’re here for the right reasons, the people down the street are against America,’ said an unnamed speaker in a video posted on the Parler page of the self-declared ‘Western chauvinist’ Proud Boys.

    That quote is from 3/4 of the way down the page, and the page is FILLED with left wing violence.

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  13. During the Ferguson riots I was glued to the coverage.

    Hands up! Don’t shoot!

    What a crock. Stedman -er- Eric Holder came to the same conclusion, but it took a while.

  14. I finally got around to trying the hood lift replacements on my Solara.

    Trying to be a smart consumer, I chose the mid-grade Made in Turkey lifts at Autozone — not overpriced OEM but not cheap Chinese junk that would wear out in a couple of years.

    The lifts didn’t fit, and one lift looked like someone beat the cr*p out of the ball joint socket learning the same lesson. Ok, back to Chinese junk. That usually fits.

    Dunno about Autozone as of late. Searching for a cabin air filter which was due on my Camry, I noticed they stock one for the 2001 Solara. Too bad the 2001 didn’t have a cabin air filter box, something that didn’t happen for the until the 2002 model year.

    Amazon is getting really aggressive about car parts. I try to avoid Big River if I can get hat I need elsewhere, but I understand the convenience.

  15. Don’t forget about Rock Auto. Not always the cheapest, especially with shipping, but they have a good selection. They are my goto when I don’t need it quickly, or need the Oem equivalent.

  16. All the females in the family are playing Skyrim in the other room. 9yo says “I think I’d like to hire a mercenary to kill those four…”

    –I’ll take “Things I Never Thought I’d Hear A Nine Year Old Say” for 1000 Alex…

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  17. “I think I’d like to hire a mercenary to kill those four…”

    Best laugh all day.

    @Greg
    Somewhere in the back of my head is the notion that Jane Wyatt was the model for the Columbia Pictures logo. You’ve mentioned her before as Spock’s mother, and I’ve Googled but I can’t find anything. Can you shed some light on my failing memory? I certainly see a resemblance.

  18. @Greg
    Somewhere in the back of my head is the notion that Jane Wyatt was the model for the Columbia Pictures logo. You’ve mentioned her before as Spock’s mother, and I’ve Googled but I can’t find anything. Can you shed some light on my failing memory? I certainly see a resemblance.

    Jane Wyatt was Spock’s mother in the 60s series running through “Star Trek IV”. I didn’t know about the Columbia logo, but she would have been really young since that image goes back to the 30s.

    Stories float around that the Columbia logo model was Leota Toombs nee Thomas, “Madam Leota” from “The Haunted Mansion” at the Disney parks — I’m not kidding about the name — but that is inaccurate. Toombs worked in Imagineering in the 60s and just happened to be in the room when Yale Gracey and the creative people needed a female face for a test of the crystal ball gag.

    BTW — If you have Disney+, the episode of “The Imagineering Story” featuring the evolution of The Haunted Mansion is very good. IIRC it is the … 3rd?. The series falls apart after covering the 70s/80s because the writers are obviously under orders to protect Iger’s legacy ahead of his firing (cough), but the early episodes don’t have that burden.

  19. I’m not kidding about the name

    Speaking of failing memories, some thirty years ago I saw a urologist whose name was Dr. Drinkwater, or some such silliness. Can’t for the life of me remember his exact name. And last week I saw Dr. Wessells for the second time and I’ll be damned if I again forgot to ask him if he knew “where they keep the nuclear wessels”. Bet he’s heard that one before!

  20. @lynn
    …could you …
    Well, yes, we could and are considering all of those and in that sequence. The answer is yes, we could.
    The more difficult question / temptation is should we….
    My uncle in law nailed it. He pronounced Tragedy Hall ‘an insurmountable opportunity’.
    -laughter-

    ‘an insurmountable opportunity’.

    –love it

    n

    Oh boy, that bad.

  21. Don’t fall through!

    Insurance still covers stupidity.

    Alternate plan is a ladder on each side and an aluminum platform on a rung of each ladder with the platform spanning the roof. Lay on the platform.

    I need to change the middle light fixture light bulbs in the stairwell at work. The light fixture is about 12 ft above the stairs. I have been thinking about putting an a-frame ladder on the middle landing with a 2 by 12 board from the upper landing to the ladder. It feels dangerous to me. I don’t think that I bounce anymore.

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  22. I need to change the middle light fixture light bulbs in the stairwell at work. The light fixture is about 12 ft above the stairs. I have been thinking about putting an a-frame ladder on the middle landing with a 2 by 12 board from the upper landing to the ladder. It feels dangerous to me. I don’t think that I bounce anymore.

    Floods? I believe there is a special tool on an extender rod for those situations.

    Pay the electrician for an opinion before breaking out the ladder. It would be much cheaper than traction.

  23. @lynn, that is a perfect job for a Little Giant, with one side set shorter than the other.

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  24. Pay the electrician for an opinion before breaking out the ladder. It would be much cheaper than traction.

    +1000.

    One of the advantages of being older is (usually) having the do-re-mi to pay younger people to do the dirty and/or dangerous jobs so that you no longer have to.

  25. I have something similar, Lynn. It’s very useful on hills and stairs. Possibly cheaper than an electrician (and you still have the ladder when the job is done) and safer than a 2×12.

  26. @lynn

    (One fancy ladder + one neighborhood kid) < electrician ?

    And if you are going to get up there, perhaps use LED bulbs, to reduce the need to go up there again.

  27. @Lynn: When you do consult with the electrician, why not ask him to replace the existing fixture with one using bulbs that can be replaced via the telescopic light bulb changer linked to by @SteveF?

    (One fancy ladder + one neighborhood kid) < electrician ?

    Not if the kid falls off the ladder and breaks his neck. 🙁

    And if you are going to get up there, perhaps use LED bulbs, to reduce the need to go up there again.

    Use LEDs in any event!

  28. @lynn

    (One fancy ladder + one neighborhood kid) < electrician ?

    And if you are going to get up there, perhaps use LED bulbs, to reduce the need to go up there again.

    Always use LED bulbs ! I cut my office building electric bill by 20 to 30% by switching the incandescents to LEDs as they burned out.

  29. @lynn, that is a copy of the original Little Giant, so yep it will work great. It’s where the little giant shines.

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  30. Huh.

    I was rustling up some dinner in the kitchen just now and, when moving the fire extinguisher to get to something waaaay in the back realized: it was probably out of date.

    As in the only date I can find says 1994.

    If it was a human it would be eligible to vote.

    Now I have to review the current crop in the garage and vehicles, and decide on replacements…

  31. Ed, we have no fire extinguishers in or around the kitchen.

    We should.

    I bought three and put them in the kitchen or laundry room and didn’t think much about them for a few years. When I went to check the pressure gauges I couldn’t find any of them. No one in the house had any idea of what I was talking about. So I bought a few more, showed everyone where I was putting them, and made it very clear that they were to be left alone unless there was a fire. When I returned from North Carolina two years ago, I checked and, you guessed it, there were no fire extinguishers to be found. And no one knew anything about any fire extinguishers.

    My new policy is: to hell with it. The house isn’t in my name.


  32. Activist judges are going to be the death of us.

    –the death of the Republic anyway

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  33. @lynn
    Re: Tragedy Hall, yep, that bad.

    OFD. I sure enjoyed his ‘voice’ and perspective. He brought a lot of wisdom to our conversations here. I appreciated his deep knowledge of religion and well read intelligence. We continue to have a find group of intelligent folks here, but we lost a little salt from our stew pot.

    Looked at a couple other places this weekend. Boring. Ready to move into, 1/4 acre lots surrounded by other people. All $310k – $400k. Anchorage is miserable sometimes. Found another Tragedy Hall in midtown Anchorage, next to the greenbelt. House is less tragic. Lot is larger, 2.25 acres?, I think it’s listed around $325k. Not even a consideration – the greenbelt is homeless-ville, and it’s not zoned for horses. Lot was very tree filled, which is nice unless you want to garden, then you’ve got the effort / expense of dropping them, and Anchorage changed rules on how many trees you can clear about 10 years ago.

    I wish this homeless shelter purchase would disappear. BWMC.

    In more pleasant news.
    Harvested just under two pounds of tomatoes. We planted probably a dozen plants. That we got any is a minor feat in Anchorage. We don’t have a proper greenhouse, just a 12×12 translucent shelter missing a side. Also harvested the two miniscule ears of corn from 4 plants. Ditto on minor feat. And the two apples from the Wynoche – I have been threatening major bodily harm, heads on pikes, and other acts of violence to anyone who dared touch the apples. They survived several marauding waves of children who recognized the real threat in my eyes as I explained the apples were NOT to be messed with.

    Potatoes will be harvested in the next week or two. Our first 5 gallon grow bucket of taters were delicious. I think we got a couple pounds from that minor effort.

    The July 23rd litter of rabbits is coming along nicely. I didn’t weight them, but there are 3 or 4 that look fat enough to put in the freezer.

    I am a far more successful rancher than farmer.

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  34. @SteveF: Huh. Strange. Are they good for anything but putting out fires?

    I saw a nasty grease fire as a kid, and one not quite as nasty as a student. Both burned out without major damage, but I’ve made a point of having one near – but not too near – stoves in my residences.

    These are really ancient, I think the old and new (10yo?) must have been switched during my last move.

  35. I have a lot of fire extinguishers. Like UPS batteries, they are often surplussed when they go out of date but are still perfectly useful. The cost of recertifying the pressure vessel part is more than the cost of new.

    I have a variety, mostly big ABC dry chemical, but a couple of aerosol spray cans, and even a couple of personal size halon ones. Yep. Real halon. I have the personal ones from my time on stage in vegas working with pyro and actors. We had CO2 extinguishers both as props for the actors to use, and in case of mishaps, but I always had the little halon one in my back pocket too.

    If you have an electric vehicle you want one rated L or K, I forget, and you really don’t want an attached garage, or worse, a garage under the master bedroom. If you have that style house, I’d open the walls and ceiling, add the insulation the builder left out, then cover everything with double the drywall required. You really gonna sleep over all that gasoline/lithium without extra firestopping??

    I’ve got a big ABC in my master bedroom closet, a smaller wet chemical aerosol in the kitchen cabinet, and another big ABC dry chemical just outside the kitchen in the laundry room. 10 feet beyond that there is another big ABC just inside the garage door, and a “NASA approved” aerosol.

    In my Expy, I’ve got two big ABC dry chemicals under the back seat, accessible from the open door. I’ve got one little halon and another big ABC inside the back liftgate. In the Ranger, I’ve got a couple of big ABC drys behind the seat, and 3 or 4 wet aerosol cans.

    I’ve got more at my secondary. Even though they were out of date, they all show charge and when I’ve used them they all worked fine.

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  36. “If RBG wanted to be a lawmaker, she should have run for Congress.”

    Yup. Activist judges are going to be the death of us.

    Payola. Martin Ginsberg saved Ross Perot a ton of money when GM bought EDS, and the wife was probably on Perot’s short list for the first Supreme Court nomination since Byron White had telegraphed well in advance his intention to step down after nearly 30 years after waiting out Bush 41’s term.

    Anyone who thinks that Ross Perot truly spontaneously decided to run for President on “Larry King Live” needs his or her head examined. We had THRO and Perot-organized test rallies in Tampa in 1990, back when Perot still had a home on Useppa Island off Fort Myers, mostly used to hide his massive yacht while he made people believe he really drove that POS Buick (?) in the late 80s until GM got tired of him.

  37. Scanner had a pretty big team taking down the first of several guys…. waited at a known family member’s house for him to show up, then followed him away, and then the takedown. Sounded like the fugitive team… they had his social media, the mom’s media, and a whole bunch of other people’s as well. They were able to tie him to the person at the stakeout address thru school records for an 11yo child…

    welcome to the panopticon

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  38. Projection? I think it was the Clinton foundation that had some history with abusing Haitian children and adoptions….

    Boston University professor is urged to resign for calling Amy Coney Barrett a ‘white colonizer’ who is using her two adopted Haitian children as ‘props’

    Ibram Kendi of Boston University sparked outrage on social media on Saturday
    He suggested whites adopt black kids to shield them from charges of racism
    Kendi was commenting on Judge Amy Coney Barrett’s two Haitian children

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  39. … but there are 3 or 4 that look fat enough to put in the freezer.

    Won’t they catch a cold?
    (Sorry)

  40. @Nick: You are better prepared than I am.

    Mine were all smallish, 2#. I had one near the stove, one in the garage, one in each vehicle, two in the boat.

    After 10 years I bought new, but kept the old handy (except in the boat where I was warned the USCG could get snippy if you were inspected, even if you had new ones present).

    So that’s 12, of which I only know the location currently of one.

    So SteveF isn’t alone in his missing stuff.

  41. @ed, I wasn’t always that prepared. I’ve always had the kitchen and workshop ones, my dad was a volunteer firefighter so I grew up with the idea of having them. Then I had that year where I was first or second on scene to what? 3 or 4 wrecks or fires. I added a BUNCH of extinguishers after that. I think I probably paid $20 for a pallet full, and I pick up the aerosol ones when they are on sale at costco. I’ve got a couple of new ones for critical areas, like my house, with the surplus ones as vehicle and backup.

    Working with fire on stage kind of shaped my feelings about extinguishers too.

    then there was the CERT class, and some discussion about arrival times for the FD if things get sporty….

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  42. Re: fires
    In 1985 I was staying in a trailer in Pensacola doing a 4 month IT contract for a certified arse. One night I awoke about 2am to see a bright orange glow coming in the window. The home across the street had caught fire. I threw on some trousers and ran outside to help. Happily everyone had gotten out but there was nothing we could do aside from watch … from a distance. I was amazed at just how fast and HOT a wooden home can burn. The FD showed up about the time the roof came down. Turned out it was caused by smoking in bed.

  43. @harold, the rule of thumb is if the fire is bigger than a wastebasket, run, don’t fight.

    In TEOTWAWKI, that rule might be stretched a bit…

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