Tuesday, 8 November 2016

09:03 – With zero days left until the election, we’ll just make popcorn tonight and watch the game. If the vote is counted honestly, Trump should win in a landslide. Of course, the chance of an honest count is near zero, so the supposed outcome will depend on how successful Clinton supporters are at stealing votes.

I just realized yesterday that I no longer had the means to prepare sterile culture media or agar. In Winston, we were at about 800 feet (244 meters) elevation. In Sparta, we’re at about 3,000 feet (914 meters) elevation. That’s a huge difference for sterilizing things in a pressure canner.

The pressure canner I used down in Winston is a cheap Walmart unit that tops out at 10.7 PSI. That was fine for working at 800 feet elevation, but it’s totally inadequate at our current elevation. So I just ordered a pressure canner on Amazon that will do 15+ PSI. In addition to sterilizing culture media, the 15 PSI unit can be used safely to home can meats and other low-acid foods, which the older unit cannot. We’ll just re-purpose the older unit as a large cooking pot and pressure cooker (versus canner).

I thought about ordering an All American pressure canner. They’re US-made, built like tanks, and if we were going to do a lot of canning I’d have bitten the bullet and paid the price for one of them. They cost more than three times as much as the Presto 23-quart unit I ended up ordering. This unit can process 7 quart jars or 18 pint jars at a time, and is more than sufficient for our needs. I will need to order some spare parts, like a gasket, pressure regulator, and pressure gauge. Even with all of those, the Presto unit comes in at just over $100 total.

As regular readers may remember, I’m not a big fan of home canning for general food preservation. It’s very expensive in terms of equipment, supplies, fuel, time, and effort. For veggies and other low-cost foods, it makes more sense to dry them or just to buy them in cans to start with. I mean, what’s the point to using a $0.75 canning jar and lid, along with all the work it takes, to preserve a can of vegetables that you could buy for $0.60?

One place home canning may make sense for some people is in preserving high-value foods like meats, particularly if you buy them in bulk when they’re on sale. Versus commercial canned meats like those from Keystone (via Walmart), it’s about break even cost-wise, but the real advantage to home canning meats is that you can can stuff that’s not readily available commercially. For example, white-meat chicken is readily available commercially canned, and indeed we keep a fair amount of it on-hand. But Barbara and I also like dark-meat chicken, which is very difficult to find in commercial cans. And then there’s bacon. A pint canning jar holds about a pound of meat, and a quart about two pounds. That means that with six or eight dozen wide-mouth quart jars, we can keep 150 to 200 pounds of home-canned meats on hand.

The danger with home-canning meats is botulism. The bacteria itself is destroyed by boiling, as is the toxin that bacteria produces. But the spores of that bacteria are destroyed only by extended heating at temperatures well above boiling, which is why proper canning is essential for meats. The spores themselves are not dangerous to consume, except for infants (which is why infants should never be fed honey). The danger is that in an improperly canned container of meat, those spores may germinate, producing deadly botulinus toxin. That’s why all responsible authorities always note that home-canned meats should always be cooked very thoroughly before consumption. If they are tainted by botulism toxin, cooking them thoroughly renders them safe to eat.

Our 400W off-grid solar power starter kit showed up from Amazon yesterday. Now all I need to do is get batteries to charge and an inverter large enough to drive the well pump. Before I finalize plans, I need to get a well guy out here to look at our well. I have no idea how deep the well is, how deep the pump is, or how deep the water table is. I’d like to know all of that, and perhaps get him to install a new pump. I’m assuming the one in there is quite old and probably over-sized. This well was here long before the house was built, and no one seems to know anything about it. There’s not even a plaque inside the well casing, which is a pretty good indication by itself that this well is very old.


188 Comments and discussion on "Tuesday, 8 November 2016"

  1. Dave says:

    I held my nose and voted against Clinton. The voting against Clinton part wasn’t why I held my nose. I don’t particularly care for Trump, but Clinton makes him look like a wonderful person. I hold no delusions that there is much similarity between Trump and Bruce Wayne, as some of my cousins seem to think. He’ll probably be an awful President, but the media will report every awful bit.

  2. Ed says:

    Re: the pump. Old states-built stuff was designed to last, literally, decades. New stuff is mostly China built and of dubious quality. You may want to just test and keep the old one, or have it rebuilt if needed.

  3. MrAtoz says:

    Wah! MrsAtoz just went and voted for Cankles. Wah! Low information voter.

  4. DadCooks says:

    WRT canning:
    This “Homesteader” has a lot of videos that are prepper related with this one being canning related:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQi8kab8WxA

    This is another important canning related site:
    http://nchfp.uga.edu/how/store/store_home_canned.html

    Also remember your County Extension Agent is a good resource.

    WRT today’s erection:
    Listening to KSFO stream this morning, they are getting calls from up and down the East Coast reporting voting problems. The same old same old problem of a person voting Republican and the machine records Democrat. Also calls of voting machines breaking down and no paper ballots available. Long long lines and wait times. This could be to the Republicans advantage as the vast majority of Democrats will not wait for anything (that is one of the reasons they had to go to EBT cards because it was too hard for the Democrats to have to go the the Welfare Office every month).

    As far as I can tell there have been no Killary sightings this morning, as of yet. She was “scheduled” to show up at her polling place almost 2 hours ago. Could we be so lucky that she bit the biscuit? I can dream can’t I.

    Trump now going in to cast his ballots with an entourage of a bazillion Secret Service.

    Don’t trust anyone and watch the watchers.

  5. Dave Hardy says:

    “Before I finalize plans, I need to get a well guy out here to look at our well. I have no idea how deep the well is, how deep the pump is, or how deep the water table is. I’d like to know all of that, and perhaps get him to install a new pump. I’m assuming the one in there is quite old and probably over-sized. This well was here long before the house was built, and no one seems to know anything about it. There’s not even a plaque inside the well casing, which is a pretty good indication by itself that this well is very old.”

    Ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto. It’s been hard to get info on our well, and I thought I remembered from some paper or other when we bought the place that it was 140 feet deep, but I can’t find that paper again and it’s not on the building inspector’s report and when I contacted the people who drill wells around here, they have no record of doing anything with this one, apparently, although there was a tag or something with their name on it. She told me there should be a metal tag attached to the well-head itself, aboveground, but nope, nothing there.

    Obviously I wanna know all the same stuff so when we CAN afford a generator, transfer switch, etc. and we get an electrician in here, I have all that info with which to ask him (or her, yeah, yeah) the relevant questions. I do know, however, there won’t be anything solar going on here; I hope to find a good dual-fuel generator that will run at LEAST the well pump, and preferably also the oil furnace, if necessary, and the fridge and freezer. For a week’s outage, say; after that, just run it briefly every day for the well pump alone.

    I haven’t been to vote yet; gonna work on a few things here at the house and then hit the place in early to mid-afternoon.

    “Wah! MrsAtoz just went and voted for Cankles. Wah! Low information voter.”

    She played you, man. Probably laughing right now. And I feel your pain, hermano.

  6. DadCooks says:

    Killary sighted walking arm in arm with BJ Klinton (more like being held up by him). She looks to be well medicated this morning. She and BJ have voted and now off to a hotel in NYC to “rest” and wait for the results. Hookers and blow anyone?

  7. Nick Flandrey says:

    Well, Sarah Hoyt seems to have given up. She’s got a good point about Newsweek and their having already sent out copies of its “Madame President” commemorative issue. She thinks this indicates that the fix is in. As evidence she cites they fact they’re broke and can’t afford to make a mistake, so having gone ahead, they must be clued in.

    I think that’s wrong. If they were clued in and so smart they wouldn’t be broke, would they? I think it just an indication of how seriously self reinforcing the lefty echo chamber is. And how stupid they are to go for one last issue on a roll of the dice. They believe the polls. They don’t see the reporting on rally attendance. They don’t consider that leftys have little patience or commitment to voting under hardship.

    Trumps voters are fired up. They will wait in line. They will challenge and check their ballots. They will get to polling places.

    Of course, the level of fraud will be tremendous. EVERYONE needs to watch for it, report it, answer exit polls, and build a general awareness of the real votes.

    Anyone who is not voting today, PLEASE, get to the polls and try. They’re letting anyone with a pulse, and lots of corpses too, vote if they think they will vote D. We need to send some R’s their way. This is a referendum on the future of the USA. Will we continue on the road to oligarchy? Or will we take the (very slight, but bigger than zero) chance to change?

    Unless the whole thing has been a con from the beginning, I believe that trump does in fact love this country, that he does support MORE freedom rather than less. The level of vitriol toward Hillarrity is not possible from someone as bombastic as Trump unless it is genuine. Did he play the game in the past and curry favor? He’s said as much. Does he have any future if he loses? His life has changed forever just by opposing HRC publicly. Under a clinton government, does anyone thing that federal agencies will get LESS weaponized? Does anyone think that her opponents will be allowed to just walk away unpunished? However he felt when he started, he’s in it for real now.

    Go vote.

    nick

  8. Dave Hardy says:

    “Unless the whole thing has been a con from the beginning…”

    Bingo.

    “However he felt when he started, he’s in it for real now.”

    We’ll see. But I keep remembering those pics and vids of him and his wife hanging out and having a grand old time with Larry and Cankles at multiple celeb and political events. Maybe that’s all dead now, and they won’t REALLY be besties after this is all over. Maybe there’s a tiny chance this “election” will make a difference if he’s elected. It’s all we got, pretty much.

    But do not lose haht if he loses; like Patrick Buchanan says, even if he does, he’s emasculated the existing regime and system and made it possible for many more millions of peeps here to see that the Emperor has no clothes.

    There is no going back from that now.

    And a Clinton Crime Family presidency will harden our hahts and our resolve a LOT more as things develop.

  9. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    It’s really quiet around here. Very little email, and this site has had only 737 views so far today. I guess everyone is holding their collective breath.

  10. Dave Hardy says:

    Not me, hahahaha! Fuck that!

    Gotta prep, gotta organize, gotta do AO intel recon, etc., etc.!

    No slack time!

    Regardless!!!

    Will report back here later on turnout, etc., at my voting site at the large local “sports complex” and see if there are any musloids or other suspicious assholes hanging around, or any signs whatsoever of FRAUD.

    Meanwhile, even wife here agrees with Patrick that if Trump loses, he’s still shown the Emperor without clothes, if nothing else.

  11. lynn says:

    “U.S. sets new record for gasoline consumption in June”
    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2016/11/02/u-s-sets-new-record-for-gasoline-consumption-in-june/

    “The U.S. Energy Information Administration reported Wednesday that on an average day in June of this year 9.7 million barrels of finished gasoline was consumed. That broke the previous record of 9.6 million barrels a day set in July 2007.”

    “But cheap gasoline has put more Americans out on the road. This summer, Americans drove 6.4 percent more miles than they did back in the summer of 2007.”

    Interesting. I would have thought with the rapidly increasing gas mileage in the USA, overall gasoline usage would be decreasing. Instead, the amount of immigration to the country and increasing number of average miles driven has over come that.

  12. Miles_Teg says:

    “Our 400W off-grid solar power starter kit showed up from Amazon yesterday.”

    Where are you going to install the panels? Will you do it yourself?

  13. DadCooks says:

    /preaching to choir on/
    The real work is ahead of us, today is just going to define how nearly impossible the task is going to be. If those who value the USofA for why it was founded fall back into their daily routine (whew, glad that is over for the next 4 years) we will have learned nothing and accomplished even less.

    Freedom is a value that requires constant and continuing vigilance as well as action. It also requires self sacrifice. We cannot continue to run in place or accept anyone who does. Sorry all you “turn the other cheek” (my ass 😉 ) folks. You can find a justification in the Bible and all religions for anything. People keep saying to pray, but neglect to understand that God gave us Free Will. That means folks that WE control our destiny and control requires ACTION on our part, not some action by a “supreme being” (purposely lowercase). You cannot be a Pacifist and be free. If you are Pacifist living free then you are doing so as a parasite on those who are willing to fight for freedom.
    /preaching to choir off/

  14. MrAtoz says:

    The only real hope is if the Redumblicans maintain the Congress. Can you imagine Cankles and a Dumbocrat Congress?

  15. lynn says:

    The only real hope is if the Redumblicans maintain the Congress. Can you imagine Cankles and a Dumbocrat Congress?

    It will be Obola’s first two years in office all over again. They will be emboldened and pass all kinds of new taxes and limits. They will repeal the second amendment.

    But they will not fix Obolacare.

    EDIT: On second thought, Hillary and a dumbocrat congress may fix Obolacare by expanding Medicare to all. Including illegals.

  16. JimL says:

    I’ve just been working. On the road from 6 to 10:30, then 11:30 to 1 taking care of polling place needs.

    Turnout is higher than expected. Of note: Turnout seems to be higher in the more Trump-vocal areas than the inner city. I’m holding out hope.

    Spouse hasn’t voted yet. She’s not keen on the idea as it is. Doesn’t like Trump, but thinks Clinton is a bad apple. She may not vote, and my vote may actually count this year.

    My favorite vote of the year: “Should we amend the state constitution to require judges to retire at the age of 75”. (Similar verbiage, but same meaning.) What they don’t tell you is that the current retirement age is 70.

  17. lynn says:

    Our 400W off-grid solar power starter kit showed up from Amazon yesterday. Now all I need to do is get batteries to charge and an inverter large enough to drive the well pump.

    I cannot remember, is your well pump 120 volt or 230 volt ? I suspect that you will need at least 4 kW to run that well pump. That is quite a few batteries and a heck of an DC to AC inverter.

    As I have said before, my well pump is 160 ft down with 80 ft of water of top of it. Or at least it was when it was installed three years ago. It pulls 13 amps at 230 volts to pump around 30 gpm (not actually measured, just rated).

    Note to self: get the well guys out and check the water height above the pump. It was $1,250 to pull and check the pump three years ago, it may be more now.

  18. SteveF says:

    I guess everyone is holding their collective breath.

    Busy here. I’m working from home and watching a little girl two little girls, attempting to work while getting them to practice piano and do their Chinese homework and such. The second, the girl my wife and I have been kinda taking care of for a couple years, was dropped off an hour and a half ago. I’m just as glad, as her mother’s been more insane than usual and at least this way the kid gets one good meal today, but a little notice would have been nice. Instead, what happened was the doorbell rang and the mother was driving away before we even opened the door. (To be fair, it’s possible my wife arranged this and neglected to tell me.)

    still shown the Emperor without clothes, if nothing else.

    If you’re talking about showing the typical politician, and in particular Coffin Cankles, without clothes, um, I call sick day. Sorry, I’d love to look but I have ebola or something.

  19. lynn says:

    Our 400W off-grid solar power starter kit showed up from Amazon yesterday.

    I would not install those solar panels very high off the ground. One of my favorite scenes from the “Buying Alaska” show is the house buyers pulling up to the off-grid house in Alaska and the solar panels have about 18 inches of snow on them.

  20. MrAtoz says:

    I would not install those solar panels very high off the ground.

    A very good point for snowy areas. If you put them on the roof, you’ll need a snow removal tool that won’t damage the panels. I’d hate to stand on a ladder in the Winter with a push broom and drag snow off.

  21. dkreck says:

    Well I’ve been to the synagogue. Daughter and I walked over and did our civic duty. Libertarian for pres and voted down all tax initiatives. There was a billion dollars just in local college, high school and elementary tax bonds. Add in the interest on those and it’s more than absurd. There was a state one as well. Nothing shows me that they deserve any of it.

  22. SteveF says:

    Not to worry, dkreck. If the bond issues are run anything like they’re done in NY, they’ll continue to come up and come up until the voters get it right. That’s the vote which will count.

  23. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “Where are you going to install the panels? Will you do it yourself?”

    After I verify that they work, I’ll probably install them in the basement, inside a Faraday cage.

    “I cannot remember, is your well pump 120 volt or 230 volt ? I suspect that you will need at least 4 kW to run that well pump. That is quite a few batteries and a heck of an DC to AC inverter.”

    It’s 120V, and according to the well guy I just talked to it cant be more than 1/2 HP because they never made anything bigger in 120V, and the pump can’t be very far down. When I had an electrician out to get a quote on installing a cutover switch for the generator to drive the well pump, he put a clamp ammeter on the pump and it drew 1300W running. I’d need to run the pump only a few minutes/day to keep us supplied with water.

  24. JLP says:

    My 2000W inverter (Xantrex Prowatt) has no trouble with 1300W but I needed to upsize the cables between the battery and the inverter. The ones included in my kit were too skinny to pull that much juice. I think I ended up with #000 gauge.

    Wouldn’t 1300W running be 1.75 HP?

  25. lynn says:

    I’d need to run the pump only a few minutes/day to keep us supplied with water.

    My well pump runs about 5 to 6 times per hour for about 3 or 4 minutes each time to keep my tank pressure in the range of 45 psig (pump on) to 55 psig (pump off). In other words, it runs quite a bit during the day with 20+ people floating around here.

    And 16+ of those people are going away. My landscaper office warehouse tenant is buying a small office warehouse in downtown Rosenberg. I will be putting an ad in our local paper fairly soon as his lease expires on Jan 31, 2017. His purchase has not gone through yet is the only reason that I have not done it already.

  26. Dave says:

    Wouldn’t 1300W running be 1.75 HP?

    Yes, but how much of that is lost in the cables, and how efficient is the motor?

  27. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    The well guy estimated $1,200 to $1,500 to install a new 240V pump, including the cost of the pump.

  28. DadCooks says:

    @JimL said:

    My favorite vote of the year: “Should we amend the state constitution to require judges to retire at the age of 75”. (Similar verbiage, but same meaning.) What they don’t tell you is that the current retirement age is 70.

    Sounds like a typical WA State “initiative”.

    Ever notice how the oligarchs always come up with catchy positive sounding titles and first lines for their bills that really do not divulge how they are really going to dry-hump you. More than a one page one paragraph bill and any “amendments” is prima facie evidence that a bill is no good.

    FWIW: We have had Presidents that represented 8 political parties (that includes Nonpartisan). Time to create a new one or two real serious ones. Libertarian and other whackadoo contemporary parties do not count.

  29. SteveF says:

    Increasing the mandatory retirement age for judges might be because of the nationwide shortage of judges. I’m not weighing in on whether a senile judge is better than none…

  30. Dave Hardy says:

    Voting up here at the town site was/is moderate but steady during the early afternoon; I assume, and that’s dangerous as we all know, that the larger turnout was early this AM and will be later this afternoon/early evening. But the local rag reports that 1,000 registered voters voted early here (25% of registered town voters) which is a good sign, as it looks like most of them are pro-Trump or at least anti-Cankles. From conversations I keep overhearing, though, it’s “a pox on them all” more than anything else. The level of hatred toward this system is rising steadily.

    I voted against Cankles, of course, and more or less straight Repub down the line. I also deliberately fucked up my ballot (by voting more than once when I wasn’t supposed to on certain offices) just to see what they’d do. The machine would not take it, despite repeated attempts, front to back, upside-down, etc. Finally the aging crone at the station got off her cell phone and came over to see WTF. So they tore up that ballot and gave me a new one.

    Gassed up the Saab when I got home and sent Princess on her way back up to Moh-ree-all; I assume she voted for Cankles but didn’t bother asking. She may well have voted for the handful of actual commies who are running up here.

    And wife has been on the phone with her employer to inquire as to WTF is up (again) with her latest overdue pay checks. “the checks have been cut and are in the system”

    So she told ’em to Fed-Ex ’em overnight (again). We have the mortgage, heating oil, utilities, etc., etc, plus Princess and MIL howling for money, etc.

    And the same recruiting outfit called me again about that RHEL/AIX job at Global Foundry and I told them the same thing I told the other guy and it’s back in play again, apparently, as they’re “having a lotta trouble filling the position.” Yeah? Well let me talk to the actual fucking hiring manager, then, not some HR bozo with a list of questions he got off the net. And meanwhile the Fed job is hanging somewhere and I should hear one way or the other this week or next, and I have my appointment Thursday with the state vets service officer.

    While organizing and prepping here as best as I can while effectively crippled again.

    A busy week; y’all keep your eyes and ears open for potential sportiness nationwide, and as always, watch your six, watch their fucking hands, and stay frosty.

  31. Dave Hardy says:

    And funny biz going on down in the great state of North Carolina:

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article113231543.html

  32. lynn says:

    I voted against Cankles, of course, and more or less straight Repub down the line.

    Wow, @RBT and @DH voted in the presidential election. I just do not know what to think about that.

    I also deliberately f****** up my ballot (by voting more than once when I wasn’t supposed to on certain offices) just to see what they’d do. The machine would not take it, despite repeated attempts, front to back, upside-down, etc. Finally the aging crone at the station got off her cell phone and came over to see WTF. So they tore up that ballot and gave me a new one.

    I wish we had paper ballots here in The Great State of Texas instead of those easily hackable voting machines. Many, many reports of problems with the voting machines running Windows CE.

    “Dying To Vote: CBS4 Investigation Finds Woman Charged With Casting Dead Father’s Ballot”
    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/dying-to-vote-cbs4-investigation-finds-woman-charged-with-casting-dead-fathers-ballot/

    And the authorities have found a woman apparently voting Republican with her dead fathers absentee ballot.

  33. Jenny says:

    File this under non sequitur and juvenile behavior.

    Read a news article about people putting their ‘I voted’ stickers on Susan B Anthony’s tombstone.

    Declined the proffered ‘I voted’ sticker at my polling place.

    Had the thought. Steal a roll and slap ‘I voted’ stickers on all the headstones at the local cemetery.

    Probably not as funny as I think it is.

    At 11:30 I was the 79th ballot submitted at my polling location whic serves about 1,300. A coworker reported they waited in line with about 30 in front of them earlier in the day at their site, and about 80 in line when they left.

    Not tgat Akaska much matters with only 3 electoral college votes and it’s time zone.

  34. Jenny says:

    I also deliberately fucked up my ballot (by voting more than once when I wasn’t supposed to on certain offices) just to see what they’d do.
    I like it. Good for you, Dave.

  35. MrAtoz says:

    Uh-oh, MrAtoz.

    I better call up Lamar and cancel our trip. I guess it’s back to the Bunny Ranch again. I think they now have a Life Flight chopper he can fit in. That trip from Pahrump to Vegas in the ambulance sucked.

  36. Greg Norton says:

    My wife probably could have voted in Florida via absentee ballot even though we haven’t even lived in the state in six years. Cankles workers showed up at my mother-in-law’s house in Orlando to ask why she (my wife) had not voted in Orange County in a couple of decades. They weren’t convinced about the whole moving around explanation.

    Tempting. I-4 will decide FL this time around. If Trump wins the state, he may owe Rubio for getting back into the Senate race.

    We’ll see. But I keep remembering those pics and vids of him and his wife hanging out and having a grand old time with Larry and Cankles at multiple celeb and political events. Maybe that’s all dead now, and they won’t REALLY be besties after this is all over. Maybe there’s a tiny chance this “election” will make a difference if he’s elected. It’s all we got, pretty much.

    Like the pictures of Cankles and Larry at Trump’s wedding, yukking it up and sitting in the pew normally reserved for the groom’s family?

  37. Miles_Teg says:

    “They weren’t convinced about the whole moving around explanation.”

    Is it any of their business?

  38. Miles_Teg says:

    DHwrote:

    “She may well have voted for the handful of actual commies who are running up here. ”

    Does she vote for Bernie? When she puts her hand out for dough why not suggest that she earn her own? At 24 I’d been through uni and working for three years.

    Good luck with your job hunting.

  39. lynn says:

    That trip from Pahrump to Vegas in the ambulance sucked.

    We drove from Pahrump to Vegas a couple of years ago in a light snowfall. My father, “it just started snowing, the road wont be slick so I should drive my normal limit + 5 through the mountain passes”.

  40. Dave Hardy says:

    “Like the pictures of Cankles and Larry at Trump’s wedding, yukking it up and sitting in the pew normally reserved for the groom’s family?”

    Yes. And the groom’s parents were deceased. I’m of the belief that it was
    sacrilegious and an obscene gaffe. Which apparently nobody there thought twice about. So be it.

    “I like it. Good for you, Dave.”

    It’s not much, but it’s high time we all started resisting with whatever little steps we can take. How ’bout making life hard for those bastards for a change? Every chance you get. Stickers on tombstones, whatever. Use the wunnerful social media.

    “Does she vote for Bernie? When she puts her hand out for dough why not suggest that she earn her own? At 24 I’d been through uni and working for three years.”

    They both would have voted for Sanders given the chance. They know he was robbed but evidently refuse to believe that he bent over for the Clinton Crime Family and got a nice lakeside mansion in the deal the Very. Next. Day. They refuse to believe that was a de facto quid pro quo.

    “When she puts her hand out for dough why not suggest that she earn her own? At 24 I’d been through uni and working for three years.”

    She’s evidently on the university Six- or Seven-Year Plan for her BA. Changed her major several times, took summers off for travel in Europe on our dime, etc., etc. I’ve had very little input over the past 20 years as she’s not related to me by blood. But I note that our son (my stepson) worked his ass off and got through four years with Honors in History and worked more jobs until he got to where he is today, a rising star at Salesforce.com in San Francisco. Makes more money in a month than we make all year together, even when I’m working full-time. But he has a wife and three kids and lives outside SF, very high cost of living, etc., etc.

    So sonny got one sort of treatment and daughter has gotten another. You draw whatever conclusions you like from that, while I also note that the mother and grandmother lost their husbands early, had bad experiences with other MALE relatives, and deeply resent male OPPRESSION that they’ve experienced in their lives. I can’t even talk to wife about the Church because she’ll throw a fit and be pissed off for the rest of the day/night.

    “Good luck with your job hunting.”

    Thanks. It’s just due diligence. We could really, really use the income and bennies. But hey, que sera, sera, amirite? I’ll probably find another way to get revenue in here. I’ve noticed poor security with the armored car deliveries at the banks and stores, and drug dealers are pretty stupid so those are possibilities.

  41. brad says:

    Swiss TV has a bunch of special programs today about the US election. My wife is watching one right now – all women, for whatever reason – including the current US ambassador to Switzerland. Who doesn’t speak a word of German, although all of the other women (Americans living in Switzerland) all do. Embarrassing.

    It’s kind of funny: the moderator brought up the “wonderful” economic figures: unemployment under 5%. The women all said: nonsense, it’s much worse than that. The 5% is a fake figure. The ambassador starts in on how wonderful Obama has done, there are 6 million open jobs, especially in IT (right, OFD?). What a load of s***, but I suppose she’s paid to tell lies with a straight face. Oh, now she’s going on about how great Obamacare is.

    Just looked the ambassador up on Wikipedia (((Suzan G. LeVine))): She’s a marketing type, worked for Microsoft in the Win95 days, later was the Director of Marketing for Expedia. It’s not clear what she did or who she knows, to be named as an ambassador – her qualifications don’t have any relevance to the post. And the lack of language skills is just embarrassing – she’s the only person on the program who has to have a translation back-and-forth.

    Going to bed, before I get any more annoyed… I’ll see who the new president is when I wake up…

  42. Dave says:

    It’s not clear what she did or who she knows, to be named as an ambassador – her qualifications don’t have any relevance to the post. And the lack of language skills is just embarrassing – she’s the only person on the program who has to have a translation back-and-forth.

    It appears we need to update the old joke:

    What do you call some one who speaks two languages? Bilingual
    What do you call some one who speaks three languages? Trilingual
    What do you call some one who speaks one language? The US Ambassador

    But seriously, if I were made Ambassador to a country I’d make it my point to learn the local language ASAP. Not just because of the communication aspects but to understand the foreign culture I am in.

  43. dkreck says:

    Daughter just came back from having her nails done. All the Vietnamese women were asking her if she voted and who for. (I don’t know but I’m sure it wasn’t Cankles.) The women at the salon all told her they voted Trump.

  44. Dave Hardy says:

    “But seriously, if I were made Ambassador to a country I’d make it my point to learn the local language ASAP. Not just because of the communication aspects but to understand the foreign culture I am in.”

    Ditto. Common fucking sense. But apparently that doesn’t apply to our Snake Department. Useless bastards always. When I was in SEA I went to language school and learned the local stuff, including basic customs with local people. Who treated me like a prince and were fearful and wary of other G.I.’s. I still remember some Thai, Vietnamese and Lao. More so than French, probably, lol.

    “…there are 6 million open jobs, especially in IT (right, OFD?).”

    Yup. You betcha. Just none for me. Unless I wanna do one in Saudi or Kuwait or Qatar. Or move to Podunk, Kansas or something. And I’d have to pay my own way to and from any interviews. They just make this shit up on the fly. If there are 6 million IT jobs in CONUS, rest assured they’ll be offshored or moved to robots.

    But riddle me this? I understand the dumb wench can’t speak German, but isn’t Switzerland also part French and Italian? What if she spoke one of those, at least?

    “The women at the salon all told her they voted Trump.”

    I wonder how old they are. The ones my age and older seem to be fellow wingnuts and pretty conservative. For some odd reason.

  45. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    If they made me ambassador, I’d require the population to abandon their native language and speak only English. Why put up with an inferior language?

  46. SteveF says:

    It’s not clear what who she did or who what she knows, to be named as an ambassador

    FIFY

  47. lynn says:

    The women at the salon all told her they voted Trump.

    Did they ? “Voting Issues: Some Trump Voters Reporting Ballots Switching To Clinton”
    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/11/08/some-problems-reported-as-voters-head-to-polls/

  48. SteveF says:

    If I were ambassador, I wouldn’t try to talk any language to the natives. I’d grunt and gesture, and behave at all times as if I expected them to fly into a rage and start throwing feces. Why grant any human dignity to inferior subspecies who can only dream of measuring up to the American standard?

  49. dkreck says:

    This year our ballots were all on one large sheet with bubble fill optical scanner. No offer of electronic or punch.
    BTW why do I see so many pictures and stories of polling places with long lines and waits? Our, which has four precincts in it, had about 40 people there when we went. There was no line at our table. Total time about 5 mins. It took longer to walk the 1/3 mi over there. Beautiful day no reason not to walk. Took the small dog with us. They would not give him his ballot. (okay, he waited outside, tied to the rail)

  50. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    @SteveF

    Well, there is that.

  51. SteveF says:

    I’d make a terrible Secretary of Defense but an awe-inspiring Secretary of Offense. Use one’s natural gifts to their fullest, I always say.

  52. H. Combs says:

    Voting was VERY heavy here in De Soto County MS. Had to wait 20 min in line at 3:30 in the afternoon. They rang the firehouse bell for every first-time voter. Bell rang 4 times while we were there. Our votes won’t make any difference here in Mississippi which is solid Republican.

  53. dkreck says:

    And our republican votes make no difference in California. (which has the big electoral prize)

  54. Spook says:

    “”“Where are you going to install the panels? Will you do it yourself?”

    After I verify that they work, I’ll probably install them in the basement, inside a Faraday cage.””

    Suggestion:
    Build the brackets or whatever for the solar panels (or at least save a cardboard template or something) before you store the panels. You can build and install the brackets when you get to it… and have them ready for quick deployment (and/or not have to shop for mounting hardware after it gets weird).

  55. SteveF says:

    Democracy is saved!

  56. Dave Hardy says:

    I’m as fanatic as anyone else about English being the superior language but in the process of dismantling this fucking empire, I’d rather use the carrot more often than the stick with other countries and their peeps. The Normals in those places are just trying to get through the day in one piece like the rest of us. How ’bout trying out the friendly persuasion bit first and then unloading our superior Anglo-Saxon jive on them later. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar; hahts and minds, people, hahts and minds.

    As for their governments, treat them the same way we plan to treat ours. Let’s give them a good example to follow once this “election” charade is over and done with.

  57. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    But I’m an isolationist.

  58. Nick Flandrey says:

    Voted this am. No one else there. Saw one neighbor enter as I left. I voted libertarian when there was that option, other than for POTUS. Went back and forth in the machine several times to see if anything changed, but it didn’t. Hit the vote button and was out in less than 5 minutes. We do have to show id here in TX.

    Weird thing was the lack of signs. Usually there is a forest at the demarc line. None at all and only 2 for jill stein in the front of the bldg.

    Gun store was fairly quiet. Calm before the storm I think. If things go for Clintn tomorrow will be a mad house.

    Later I was listening to one of the local indian radio stations (dot not feather) and the young female dj commented that she was so scared of a trump win she could barely move. They talked about H saying “forget the rumor, and just concentrate on what you see in front of you” but then immediately switched to talking about Bill C and all his trips to india/p-stan, etc, and what a friend to india he was. They then mocked T and his outreach to the indian community for a couple of minutes. The segment ended with her hoping for a landslide victory for hillarity…

    Weird.

    nick

  59. SteveF says:

    Not so weird. When America sneezes, the world catches a cold. (Not so much now, thanks to decades of fuckheaded “leadership”, but still a lot of truth to it.)

  60. Nick Flandrey says:

    Oh, and the poll workers told me our precinct had 40% early voting. When do they count the early votes? (other than ‘never’ unless the race is close)

    n

  61. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] It’s not clear what she did or who she knows, to be named as an ambassador [snip]

    I’m going to go way out on a limb here and guess that she raised a big pile of cash for someone’s political campaign. Sadly, ambassadorships are often treated as rewards for such things, rather than ‘represent your nation and its ideals to this other group of people’.

  62. ech says:

    When do they count the early votes?
    IIRC, they are counted as soon as the polls close. They are often available within a few minutes of the close.

  63. paul says:

    I’ve heard of the site. I don’t recall ever visiting it…. don’t know if they lean either way.
    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

    Pretty nice web page anyway.

  64. lynn says:

    Trump looks done for. He may be losing OH, PA, NC, NH, and FL is too close to call. Looks like he took VA, SC, and GA. Not enough.

    Trump may have even lost in Fort Bend County, Texas. Amazing !

    Looks like the Republicans are going to keep the House and Senate. Rubio is keeping his seat in FL which will give 51 R and 49 D in the Senate.

  65. paul says:

    When we had the master bath remodeled this summer, we went with a tile floor. I wanted a heated floor. What the heck, if you’re being quoted 8K for bath and porch roof, do the heated floor! It was a first for everyone.

    Missy loves the cool tile in the summer.

    What they installed can be bought on Amazon or eBay for about $120. A round ribbon 60 feet long with a programmable electronic controller. Three watts per foot. So, 180 watts. Just about what I saved by pitching the last of the CFL floods for LED floods. For this house, so far, I think the ribbon could have been spread out more than the direction’s 4 to 6 in spacing.

    It’s nice to have a warm floor in front of the sink, potty, and shower for a few hours in the morning and in the evening.

  66. Nick Flandrey says:

    oh good lord no.

    I think we are at the point where it’s mathematically impossible to win if you don’t have one or two of the big cities. At that point, the electoral college is no longer fair and needs to be replaced.

    I’m also horrified that so many people could vote for the criminal. No white liberal guilt driving it either.

    I’ll have to start actively working for the Texas revolt….

    nick

  67. lynn says:

    My brother has a heated floor using hot water in his house in Colorado. Somehow one of the pipes popped this summer and the water caused the wood subfloors to swell and pop all of the tiles. They are getting new subfloors and tiles. And the insurance company did not help much.

  68. lynn says:

    Looks like OH and NC are in play now. I am watching
    http://www.nytimes.com/

    It is obvious that a large number of people voted straight R in Fort Bend County and then voted explicitly for Hillary. Amazing ! The early vote in Fort Bend County is at:
    http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/TX/Fort_Bend/64723/180428/Web01/en/summary.html

  69. paul says:

    I voted for Trump then voted for all the Dems running against almost surely an incumbent in this area and not at all for anyone un-opposed.

    Vote the bums out. If they don’t have an opponent, let’s cut the whole “ah gots me a mandate!” bull stuff.

    Not many Libs on this ballot.

  70. Nick Flandrey says:

    AP map is showing NY for Clinton, with , I shit you not, .03% reporting. Less than 2000 votes counted, and it’s a sure win for HRC.

    n

  71. SteveF says:

    It is obvious that a large number of people voted straight R in Fort Bend County and then voted explicitly for Hillary.

    It’s a good thing we have artificial intelligence in the electronic voting machines, to figure out what the voters really wanted rather than what selections they made.

    A round ribbon 60 feet long with a programmable electronic controller. Three watts per foot.

    Sounds like the heat tape I put on some of the pipes in my old house. A number of the pipes passed outside of the foundation, into an unheated crawlspace. In upstate NY. Because why the hell wouldn’t you do that? (And the inspector I hired to check the house before we bought it missed that. Because why would a professional house inspector notice a thing like that?)

  72. paul says:

    Insurance does strange things. The house in Austin had a tile shower stall in the MB. I forget what failed and leaked. Grout, shower pan, no clue. The insurance paid to have the wood in the shower stall walls replaced. Tile? Nah, that’s cosmetic.

    It was an odd thing to me.

  73. Nick Flandrey says:

    Oh please let me wash my car with liberal tears tomorrow…..
    n

  74. Dave Hardy says:

    “But I’m an isolationist.”

    So am I, but I’m thinking of free trade on an equal playing field between friendlies. If so desired by said friendlies. If so, learn their friggin’ language and customs if you’re gonna do biz or have people resident there for any length of time. Or we can continue shouting at people and waving our guns and nukes around and we’ve seen how swell that’s worked.

    “I’m going to go way out on a limb here…”

    You brave and intrepid soul, you.

    “I think we are at the point where it’s mathematically impossible to win if you don’t have one or two of the big cities.”

    It’s what the Enemy has been working toward for decades now; import as many Turd World swarms as possible, give them the voting power and everything else, and pack us all into gigantic cities, like Lagos and Mexico City. And keep us voting for whatever they want until we get it right and we all pretend it’s a fair and democratic system. We’re well on the way to that.

    Soon, like right now for instance, us Dirt People in Flyover Country won’t matter at all.

    I’m just gonna assume that the lying, thieving, treasonous war criminal ancient bag of rancid pig shit is gonna win tonight/tomorrow. And begin acting and thinking accordingly from now on. She won’t last long, in any case. And the anger out here will be fucking steaming hot and getting hotter by the day, if not the hour.

  75. SteveF says:

    AP map is showing NY for Clinton, with , I shit you not, .03% reporting.

    Yah, the major “news” orgs have been attempting to surpass the legendary brag that the news media could swing an election by 15 points. (Don’t recall who said it and couldn’t find it. Too many other search results relating to elections, not surprisingly.) I expect that to go right up to the final Supreme Court decision, to persuade “the wrong kind” of voters to stay home, or to persuade swayable justices and election board members, or even to convince Obama there’s a mandate for martial law.

  76. Dave Hardy says:

    “Less than 2000 votes counted, and it’s a sure win for HRC.”

    Let’s be clear on the Vampire State, and Mr. SteveF may have more to say on it:

    NY is mos def a chip shot for Cankles; but know this; that support comes primarily from the greater NYC area, Long Island, the cities like Albany and Syracuse, etc. She doesn’t have that level of backing in the rural north country regions or out in the western part of the state. But of course the major pop centers are gung ho for that skank rummy pig. (I’m just trying to think of as many insulting adjectives as I can, makes me feel better…)

  77. Dave Hardy says:

    “Oh please let me wash my car with liberal tears tomorrow…..”

    I wanna rinse mine in libturd blood.

  78. lynn says:

    The NY Times prediction of Clinton winning has dropped from 71% to 58% in the last 30 minutes.

    And Texas is so far 50% Trump and 46% Clinton with 1/3 of the vote in. I suspect that Texas will go D in the 2020 election. For sure by the 2024 election. Too many immigrants from inside the USA (California and Michigan) and outside the USA. And all the immigrants continuously bemoan the lack of state benefits like free health care, unemployment for life, etc.

    And Texas has 38 electoral votes. Second in the nation behind California’s 55 electoral votes.

  79. Nick Flandrey says:

    And they’ve called wyoming for trump with literally NO votes counted.

  80. Nick Flandrey says:

    Of the four hispanics I polled today, 3 with county jobs and therefore legal- all for Trump due mainly to conservatism.

    One, independent businessman, could be legal, shook head over trump, likely clinton voter.

    n

  81. Nick Flandrey says:

    Click on NY state, and only NYC area Kings Queens and Bronx have actually reported, oh, and one tiny NYC area for T, and one big one center state for T.

    n

  82. lynn says:

    The NY Times win prediction just swung to Trump, 51% vs 49% Clinton.

    But I do not believe that Minnesota is going for Trump.

    EDIT, Trump is now 53% and Minnesota went blue again.

  83. Nick Flandrey says:

    FL is showing T lead by only ~120k votes with 92% reporting. How can that not be a victory?

    Ah, broward, a clinton area is only 65% reporting. I guess they figure they’ll find some more ballots there……

    n

  84. Nick Flandrey says:

    If T gets everywhere that is currently pink, he’ll be only a state away… with FL. Without FL, no chance.

    n

  85. paul says:

    Other than the obvious “shoot it!”, how do you get rid of ammo?

    Mom’s house flooded. All concrete slab and walls. Pin leak in a water line in the bathroom… after a year, well, the joint is standing in 2 inches of water. Pretty nasty mess. Dad had a “gun safe” bolted to the floor in one of the bedrooms. We finally found the key and rats! No guns. No sign of water leakage. Lot of ammo though. Most the .22 stuff seems fine. Like, uh, north of 2000 rounds worth.

    Much of the stuff is old enough that the boxes do not have bar codes. The Thunderbolt stuff is fine and looks just like what I already had. Other than the bar codes….

    The 600 rounds of “lead lubricated” and “boil your rifle barrel to clean it if you have used any other ammo” from Montgomery Ward is bad. Corroded. Oxidized. Not sure if “swolled up” is a proper term. But you can’t load it, not even in my old sloppy .22 revolver.

    Never mind the whole boiling your rifle barrel thing. That’s about the last thing I’d do to my Henry.

    Tossing the stuff into the trash seems unwise. Tossing the stuff onto a burning brush pile, well, while perhaps exciting, uh, perhaps not.

    Take it to the local cop or sheriff office?

  86. Nick Flandrey says:

    @paul, if it is big enough to reload, someone will want it, but the 22 is just nasty. someone might like to recover the lead though.

    2000 rounds doesn’t seem like that much, 4 bricks….

    nick

  87. SteveF says:

    You could take the boxes of ammo to an old sand pit and shoot at them and see what happens.

    Tossing individual pistol rounds into a fire is allegedly safe, for what I consider to be a rather limber definition of “safe”. I’ve done it with a single .38 wadcutter, the most pathetic round I had on hand. It popped like a small firecracker and the lead went somewhere, I guess. I wouldn’t try that with a rifle round myself, but if you do, let us know what happened.

    If you have a vibrant urban youth culture near you, you could leave a box at a time where the vibrants can find it and try to use it and with any luck do themselves harm.

  88. paul says:

    At http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
    I’m seeing 11.9% Reporting for Texas. 51% Trump to 45% Her.

  89. SteveF says:

    And I hope it tastes like bitter, bitter ash in their mouths.

  90. paul says:

    “2000 rounds doesn’t seem like that much, 4 bricks….”

    Well, 600 rounds of Thunderbolt, 600 rounds of useless Monkey Wards, 700 rounds of .22 short, a few hundred rounds of a few other brands. Plus a few 20 round pack of .22 rat shot.

    Boil it all down and I have a .50 call ammo box full w/ another 500 or so in places like the feedshed and the travel trailer.

  91. Nick Flandrey says:

    Sounds like a good time! Too bad for the spoilage though. Let that be a lesson to all. Store in a cool, dry place.

    n

  92. paul says:

    “If you have a vibrant urban youth culture near you, you could leave a box at a time where the vibrants can find it and try to use it and with any luck do themselves harm.”

    None of that here. I’m not going to Austin to find any of that, either. Hey, I could mail the stuff to lynn and Nick!!!! They’re close enough that from here, I’d say they live in Houston.

    Or hey, hang onto the stuff on the off chance I ever go back to New Orleans.

  93. Nick Flandrey says:

    yep, ech too, and a couple of other lurkers….

    n

  94. Nick Flandrey says:

    Dripping Springs looked nice… and Bastrop seems to be recovering…

    n

  95. Dave Hardy says:

    @paul: I’d call the local dump/recycling peeps about disposing of hazardous materials like that; there is probably a protocol you’d wanna follow unless you’re a wingnut whack job like me or some others here whose names I won’t mention, except that one of them had some nifty suggestions that I like.

    I ain’t gonna sit in front of the tee-vee or computer monitor and get played by the MSM and various web sites on how this state is going or that tiny county is going as they laugh at us and poke each other in the ribs and guffaw over wine coolers and pass a few doobies back and forth. I figure it’s in the bag, as I figured long ago on here, and prepare for the next few months and years accordingly.

    I will say this, though; the firearms market is gonna go friggin’ HAYWIRE. Mr. Nick may wanna reconsider the main focus of his buying and selling enterprises if he has not already. I know I certainly am, and have been. Fuck IT and working for cretins and training my ESL replacement. And bad ESL at that. Plus amazingly incompetent.

    @Mr. Lynn; your son still involved with the gun store biz?

    Next best thing will be waiting for the eventual libturd wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments as their Queen Vagina lights off more wars and trashes the Bill of Rights, including their adored and worshiped “free speech.” They thought Obola screwed them? Boy are they in for some major shit.

  96. paul says:

    Dripping Springs and Bastrop seem like decent places. I haven’t spent a lot of time there other than passing through and stopping for lunch. I’m 50 miles or so on the other side of Austin. Whole different terrain.

  97. paul says:

    “You could take the boxes of ammo to an old sand pit and shoot at them and see what happens.”

    Ah. Hollow point .40 s&w could make it exciting. Tho too close. Dang it, I’m out of 7.62 for my 1896 Russian rifle.

    I need to fix that….

  98. Rick H says:

    I think those of you who think Clinton will win will be surprised. Currently, Florida went to Trump.

    Trump has 197 vs Clinton 131 (electoral votes)

  99. pcb_duffer says:

    [snip] Ah, broward, a clinton area is only 65% reporting. I guess they figure they’ll find some more ballots there…… [snip]

    Note also that the Central time part of Florida, where the results should be delayed, is very very heavily pro-Trump. But the people doing the projections should know this and should account for it. My county’s results seem to be official (it’s ~ 10PM here) and Trump took ~62,000 of ~88,000 votes.

    [snip] how do you get rid of ammo? [snip]

    Several years ago, a good friend’s father died, and in the process of wading through a lifetime of detritus we found a small collection of odds & ends ammo. I took it to the local PD’s office, and their departmental armorer was perfectly willing to dispose of it safely. No questions asked.

  100. Nick Flandrey says:

    Traders are starting to believe:

    “Market Crashes As Traders Suddenly Worried Trump Can Win

    /snip

    The Peso plunged above 19/$, Dow Futures crashed below 18,000 and Gold is testing towards $1300…”

  101. Nick Flandrey says:

    “The news of a possible Trump win has spooked investors who have been counting on a Hillary Clinton victory. “

    I’ll bet they were…

  102. Dave Hardy says:

    “I think those of you who think Clinton will win will be surprised.”

    I hope I AM surprised tomorrow but I doubt it.

    Interesting that all the biz people and stock jobbers and carny barkers and snake oil sales hucksters and corporate wankers are with the MSM and praying that the creature from Hell will win. They must know something us Dirt People don’t, well, most of us DP’s, anyway. i.e., that there will be yuuuuuuuuge quid pro quos once she’s settled in. More billions from Soros and clowns like Zuckerman at FaceCrack and Gates, the boy genius and the banksters, of course. They plan to bleed us entirely and leave us dry husks blowing in the wind.

    Trump MIGHT win and MIGHT not do that to us. I guess time will tell.

    So pax vobiscum, fratres; ol’ OFD is off to the recliner, gonna leaf quickly through some firearms catalogs and dream of gunfire in the streets…

  103. Nick Flandrey says:

    And if the map can be trusted, and none of the pink states flip to blue, it will be a shellacking in the electoral college.

    n

  104. ech says:

    I do live in Houston. Alas, I can’t use the ammo. The only gun I have in the house is a 20 gauge shotgun, which might end up in a river. My brother got all my dad’s guns – a .22, a Remington 12 gauge, and a deer gun (I think a 30-06).

    So. Looks like the Republicans hold the Senate. Looks like Trump will win.

    IMHO, Trump’s first act as president should be to pardon Hillary. The final nail in her coffin. (Of course, we would need to be sure the wooden stake won’t fall out.)

  105. Nick Flandrey says:

    CNN just went thru the map and decided it could come down to 269 vs 269 and then the decision would go to the ‘new House’.

    I think they’re whistling past the graveyard but I am a bit emotionally involved…

    n

  106. Nick Flandrey says:

    So there is still a way they could cook the books, but with R senate, R house, and majority of governors R, that’s gonna take some doing. And I don’t think people will put up with it.

    n

  107. Nick Flandrey says:

    If she was pardoned, so she couldn’t take the fifth (right? only reason to do it) then I think her health issues would overwhelm her quickly and we get a state funeral to assuage the grief of the masses over the (tragic, sudden) loss of this great statesperson.

    n

    (maybe she’d suicide with a nail gun, like the banker…)

  108. Nick Flandrey says:

    I wonder if she’ll “accept the results of the election”?

    n

  109. Miles_Teg says:

    Y’all wrong! Jerry Coyne has called it for Illary. He’s offered to take bets from people who think Trump will win. I wonder if he’s still taking bets.

  110. MrAtoz says:

    Apparently Rachel Madcow and Chrissy Tingles are having a live on air melt down.

  111. Nick Flandrey says:

    I’m just gonna hit the grocery store and the bank in the morning. I lagged today, but I’m hoping I don’t regret that.

    (chose getting paid over prepping)

    Fox is talking about all the changes in the world right before our eyes. Businesses making decisions, markets in turmoil, Repubs trying to suck up and define common ground with Trump. Dems have been demonizing T for a year, what will they do?

    And I’ve previously made my prediction for the press reaction.

    n

  112. Nick Flandrey says:

    Which channel?

  113. Nick Flandrey says:

    Holy crap, penn just went to tied with a 60k R vote county still not reporting.

    n

  114. MrAtoz says:

    MSNBC

  115. MrAtoz says:

    I’m at bingo and some peeps here are freaking. It’s glorious!

  116. Nick Flandrey says:

    Daily Mail headline– “Clinton supporters weep openly…”

    I want to wash my car with their tears, I want to bathe in them, I want to water my GARDEN with them.

    MSNBC is talking about how ‘structurally it’s very difficult for an administration to keep the white house for 3 terms.’ So it’s not their candidate’s fault. Nope.

    And MSNBC is tying themselves in knots to avoid supporting the idea of a Trump victory.

    nick

    Futures trading halted, limit down.

    And the canadian immigration website is crashed. Sweet. The canadians HATE americans working there. They’ll welcome actual terrorists with open arms and wallets, while making US Citizens grovel and jump thru hoops just to work, with no hope of residency. I had a green card for canadia. They are not interested in getting our loudmouths.

  117. Nick Flandrey says:

    MSNBC has some black expert on talking about how the blacks delivered the vote, but got counterpunched. He’s just noticed that there is a racial divide and an urban vs rural divide.

    No matter what, we’re gonna be racist hickbillies full of hate.

    n

  118. Nick Flandrey says:

    More racism. “It’s not a rainbow coalition that elected trump.”

    And why the fuck should it be? 12% of the population. Too big for your britches.

    n

  119. Nick Flandrey says:

    Hah, one R county in Penn is waiting for the last of the manufactured votes from the blue counties before releasing ANY results. It’s the only reason that makes sense.

    Let them cheat, then we’ll trump you with 60k votes.

    n

  120. JimL says:

    Pikers.

    I’ve been playing my drinking game for 2 hours. Worked all day as a non-partisan hack. Now I’m partisan as hell.

    Right now, it’s Trump over Clintion – 254/214 (or 244/214 for pussies). I’m drunk as an old Army Mech having too much good beer after a long, hard day of making sure voting is possible. While the outcome is important, the PROCESS is unspeakably important to me. I WANT the process to be fair.

    [NOT going to say anything. At this point, I should keep my mouth shut.]

    Good Lord, I want this to be done right.

    Have I mentioned my drinking game? I’m a little bit lit.

    And Monica Crowley is hot.

    Sorry. Distracted. Monica is easy on the eyes.

    Leading in PA? Be still my heart.

    I should quit drinking.

  121. Nick Flandrey says:

    Yep, PA and NH are essentially tied, except in PA almost all the D precincts have reported and a big traditionally R hasn’t reported a single vote. I’m sure they are holding off to keep the rest from cheating.

    OOPS, it just came in with 20k trump votes. Now he’s 35k in the lead.

    NH is within a thousand votes, well within the margin of cheat. With 4% Gary Johnson voters really did make a difference…

    n

  122. Nick Flandrey says:

    Now MSNBC hammering away at too close to call. F me. Last time they were all calling it with FAR less precincts in. Once it was a fait accompli, they could gloss the irregularities.

    n

  123. Nick Flandrey says:

    Hillarity needs to win all the remaining contested, uncalled states. Not gonna happen.
    n

  124. Jenny says:

    Have I mentioned my drinking game? I’m a little bit lit.
    You go, JimL. Seems like a pretty rational approach to me.

    Thanks for helping with the vote today. I’m hoping that the honest people who desperately care are able to win out over the filthy lying bastards. Doesn’t seem to happen that way so much anymore.

  125. Nick Flandrey says:

    Hi Jenny, polls closed in AK and now we can pick up another few EC votes, right?

    n

  126. MrAtoz says:

    I guess Hollyweird is moving enmasse to Australia tomorrow

  127. Nick Flandrey says:

    Aussies don’t want them either.

    n

  128. Miles_Teg says:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-09/us-expats-thoughts-on-election-2016/8008668

    “As jokes about an exodus of US citizens to Canada start to populate social media, Mr Connolly said a Trump presidency might be a disincentive for him to return to America.”

  129. Nick Flandrey says:

    The unwillingness to call states for Trump with more than 95% of precincts reporting is ridiculous.

    added- no way there are 50k absentee ballots outstanding – all for clinton.

    n

  130. JimL says:

    @Jenny
    Thanks for helping with the vote today. I’m hoping that the honest people who desperately care are able to win out over the filthy lying bastards. Doesn’t seem to happen that way so much anymore.

    I’m drunk. I love this republic. I spent 8 years “proving” to myself that I could defend such a nation. I think Obama was the wrong way to go, but was important for other reasons. (Wish Condy had run. Get it over with with a competent CIC). Our CIC is our CIC, whether the individual likes it or not. (Glad I got out…)

    “… If you can keep it.” I want to keep it. With all it’s flaws, it is still the best in the world.

    Sorry. Drunk. Will respond coherently in the morning. Please, friends who are more literate than I, keep posting. Keeps me optimistic. Still short of a clear EC win. 1:44 am.

  131. brad says:

    “If they made me ambassador, I’d require the population to abandon their native language and speak only English. Why put up with an inferior language?”

    Snark aside, German is fun. With it’s intricate grammar, you can construct sentences that pack a hell of a lot of stuff into little space. Of course, in day-to-day use, no one bothers. And the compound words are fun too: today, of all days “Schadenfreude” comes to mind 🙂

    So it’s the next morning, and y’all still aren’t quite finished. What’s taking Maine so long, seeing as it’s on the East Coast? Anyhow, it’s looking good. And – Schadenfreude – I had to laugh at the title of one MSM article “How did everyone get it so wrong”. Everyone didn’t, idiot, only the liberal press.

    Also pretty pathetic: apparently GWB and other “luminaries” didn’t vote for their own party’s candidate, and actually crowed about this in public? What utter…this is a family forum…what utter nitwits.

    Right, gotta get to work…

  132. JimL says:

    @Nick.

    No way. Drink!

    @OFD – please do something appropriate. You are a better man than I.

    (Trump is winning the popular vote?!?!?)

    Megyn Kelly- Trump is gracious?

  133. lynn says:

    IMHO, Trump’s first act as president should be to pardon Hillary. The final nail in her coffin. (Of course, we would need to be sure the wooden stake won’t fall out.)

    I agree. I think it would be good for the country. After, when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, the country agreed and just wanted to get it behind us.

    Hillary has a bigger problem though. The Clinton Family Foundation donors might want rebates of their $350 million.

  134. MrAtoz says:

    Cankles would have to be convicted of something to be pardoned.

  135. Nick Flandrey says:

    CNN says Hillarity has called Trump and conceded.

    Whew.

    Bet we see BLM in the streets tomorrow.

    Eyes open, powder dry.

    n

  136. Jenny says:

    @Nick
    Yep, polling locations are closed. May take a while for the counts, and I don’t recall when the early ballots are counted. Immediately I assume. City Hall has had lines for days for early voting. As Anchorage grows I expect it won’t be long before we turn blue too. And not from the cold.

  137. Nick Flandrey says:

    Shellacking.

    n

  138. Jenny says:

    NYTimes just called it for Trump. 279

    So now will he get shot before swearing in?
    Or will some other shenanigans take place overnight?

    Not trusting the results yet.

  139. Jenny says:

    Hey Nick – I think you got your car wash coming
    tears

  140. Jenny says:

    Hey Nick – I think you got your car wash coming
    tears

  141. Nick Flandrey says:

    She conceded. That’s it.

    I expect the wolves to tear her apart. Blood in the water.

    The deep state will probably take a shot, maybe more than one.

    We’ll see.

    I’ve heard this blamed on whites in various forms on the coverage for the last 2 hours so I expect a bunch of racial pot stirring.

    Don’t know how long it will take to get the greivance corps up to speed, probably not tomorrow.

    Bigger picture is will this trigger the collapse in the financial house of cards?

    Oh, and look at the numbers, not % or the headlines. Yep the “dollar was crushed” right back to where it’s been against the Euro for the last year, off and on. Not much worry there this week if it wasn’t a concern 3 weeks ago. And the last time it was reported, it was how weak the Euro was against the strong dollar, at the same fucking level.

    Anyone who is still heavily invested in the stock market at this point is a credulous fool. If that stings, ask yourself why. It’s been coming for a long time.

    Get some cash on hand first thing in the morning, make the ‘top up’ run. Sit back and wait for things to settle.

    gonna go to bed,

    n

    “Your tears, oh they taste so good….” /end cartman voice

  142. Nick Flandrey says:

    via GIPHY

  143. Nick Flandrey says:

    via GIPHY

  144. Nick Flandrey says:

    Ok, just wanted to preserve this headline

    “Revenge of the Deplorables: Most extraordinary campaign in modern history ends in utter humiliation for Hillary, pollsters, and the elites of business, media and show business as the voters America forgot sweep Donald to a stunning victory”

    n

  145. Jenny says:

    She conceded. That’s it.
    Now see, why ya gotta go tempting fate like that Nick?

    He could still get assassinated or suffer an unexpected yet fatal stroke or aneurism or I don’t know what.

    Or Obama could declare martial law after BLM goes nuts.

    Or somebody could discover irregularities in the voting.

    Or or or.

    Not over until he’s sworn in.

    I’m going to go revel in more pics of crying liberals, mock them a little bit, then bed.

    Hate to sound all tinfoily but I won’t be surprised to wake up to a headline that Trunp died.

  146. JimL says:

    Hungover.

    The one thing that runs through my head: Be gracious in victory.

    I mean it. Be better than the guy who said, when asked why he was being a jerk, “Because, we won.”

    Still hungover. Today is going to suck. Just not as bad had it gone the way I fully expected it to go.

  147. brad says:

    Weird, why are the election results not updating? Every site I’ve looked at still shows Arizona, Michigan, and a couple of other states as undecided, and Trump with 276 electoral votes. Are the results really not in? Or they don’t want to show just how badly Hillary lost?

    OTOH, the popular vote was incredibly close. A near run contest in the end. I suppose that’s because Hillary massively dominated in states like CA, whereas Trump narrowly won in many states.

  148. JimL says:

    Because those states are still in the territory where the final count or a recount could change the results. If there are enough uncounted ballots left, going one way or the other _could_ change the outcome. They really are that close.

    But Trump won PA. They don’t really matter any more.

  149. Nick Flandrey says:

    And despite the election chicanery.

    I mean, after all, why have a D controlled county take 4 times as long to count votes as everyone else in the state? It reeks of trying to find/make enough votes to counter the real votes.

    The MSM is shitting themselves.

    The establishment money guys have got to be thinking “maybe it’s time to get out.” The rush for the exits will leave most people stuck.

    Wonder if the donors will want refunds now the H won’t be in a position to help them?

    n

  150. Nick Flandrey says:

    “He could still get assassinated or suffer an unexpected yet fatal stroke or aneurism or I don’t know what. ”

    –probably won’t be plutonium poisoning, fwiw….

    n

  151. Dave Hardy says:

    Jeezum, Mr. Nick, you stay up all night?? That’ll leave you talking with one of our correspondents in OZ.

    OK, ol’ OFD was wrong, wrong, wrong, and is very happy to admit it. Mr. RickH called it many hours ago and hats off, sir

    I would NEVER have thought he’d crush her in the EC; figured it the other way around.

    So what we have here, from looking at the map, is that Flyover Country won, one last time, probably, as the regime continues to bring in zillions of new Turd Word immigrants and fiddle with electoral districts. She got the coastal states and predictable cities, but somehow FC got itself one last victory for the nation. I hope we can make something of it. And I still think firearms are a major growth industry here.

    This would also seem to give us preppers a little more breathing room, esp. if we DON’T live in or near a city. I don’t mind admitting I was feeling a little pressured in the event of a Cankles win. Not that we can just relax and forget about it, because plenty of chit can still go wrong, and badly so.

    If I still drank, I’d start the day off with a nice tall Cape Codder today.

  152. Nick Flandrey says:

    My ‘diffuse the situation’ question is “What are you afraid of?” Followed by “And how does that affect YOU?”

    So far, that combination usually leads to sputtering and armwaving.

    The international elites are showing their true colors, and the extent of their bias:

    ” the talk of infrastructure spending and a lack of usual vulgarity

    —right, cuz Trump is the one onstage with JayZ dropping N, F bombs next to the candidate.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3918876/Markets-free-fall-Trump-takes-lead-Dow-futures-crater-700-points-dollar-falls-peso-plunges.html

    ” given the lack of detail on an economic policy”

    — he’s been clear, no one believed him apparently

    — tear up trade agreements and repatriate jobs
    —impose trade barriers to block imports from countries such as Mexico and China
    —remove undocumented immigrants, build a border wall and tear up a trade deal

    –seems like a clear policy to me

    — although some seem to get it

    “they’re fed up with the status quo and all they know is that anything is better than what we got.'””

    –while others bought the party line

    “The president elect’s supporters, many of whom were under-educated people from the rust belt

    –this is nice,

    ” Daniel Alpert, managing partner at Westwood Capital LLC in New York said: ‘The markets will tank and then, those around Trump who have reasonable minds will script him with some pablum for the markets and calm them.

    ‘But that is not the issue. The issue is that he cannot fulfill the goals of those who are in his crazy inner circle and, at the same time, truly address the interests of those who have risen up against the Washington consensus.'”

    — and I can’t find the quote at the moment, but someone EUROpeon said “Trump is not a good president for Europe.” –which is kind of the whole point. USA FIRST.

    The reality is, the global system has a huge inertia. All the bureaucrats are still there. The congressmen who denounced him are still there. The money guys are still there.

    If I were Trump, I’d be guarding my plane pretty closely. And keeping my eyes pealed.

    nick

  153. Nick Flandrey says:

    And just for a little bit…

    hmmmmmmm. liberal tears. So tasty.

    (gif deleted)

    n

  154. Nick Flandrey says:

    @OFD,

    I stayed up until they called it for T. Watching the MSM try to avoid it was sorta fun.

    Oh the wailing.

    Some surprisingly astute observations in candid moments. I don’t know the commentators, so I can’t say if they were tokens or the normal hosts but…
    Props to Peggy Noonan for calling it a battle between ‘the protected class’ and the ‘un-protected class.’ Repeat of the quote ‘T’s supporters take him seriously but not literally, while his opponents take him literally but not seriously. Observation that this was a referendum on the establishment. And several other comments suggest that SOME in the MSM actually do understand it, even if they didn’t report it, or believe it.

    n

  155. Dave Hardy says:

    Yeah, we’ll get a better idea of how things are gonna go with whatever his reaction is to the biz nabobs around the world, but esp. here, of course. They desperately wish to be reassured.

    I also think his security is gonna be a problem for the SS and whoever else is involved these days. Anyone can be got to if the attacker/s are willing to die.

  156. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    “Mr. RickH called it many hours ago and hats off, sir”

    Hey, what about me? My poll had Trump at 125% DAYS ago…

  157. Nick Flandrey says:

    Wife says most of her FB went to bed early and now the lefties have woken to the new reality and are STUNNED.

    She says someone is showing the results by county map to explain how it could happen. Since the map is almost entirely red except the counties that contain the big cities, it tells a much different visual story than the state map. I’ve said this all along. They country is RED, the cities are BLUE. Without a massive mobilization outside the 6 big cities, the RED will never win again.

    n

  158. Ray Thompson says:

    He could still get assassinated or suffer an unexpected yet fatal stroke

    I have no doubt that the clinton crime machine (CCM) is looking at ways to make the Trumpster suffer an untimely death. I also have no doubts that the CCM is scrounging the bottom of the vote buckets looking for any straw or hanging chad they can find. Would not be surprised if a few thousand misplaced ballots magically appear, all votes for the hildabeast.

    I also have little doubt that the hildabeast is spitting nails at anyone she can find to blame them for the loss. Her ego has been crushed severely and rightly so. Will she fade into the sunset (or a grave)? One can only hope.

    The pollsters are all licking their wounds as they got it all wrong. As in complete and utter failure. Incompetence biased by the media. I watched three stations last night and the media was falling all over themselves blaming the pollsters for their biases. Megan Kelly had egg all over her face when it should have been a sledgehammer. These people failed to realize that Americans are utterly and totally pissed off at Washington and want a change. Expect more such in the next election. The dam has been breached.

    My personal feeling is that this election was no so much voting for Trump as it was voting against Washington and the political machine. The hildabeast embodied that cesspool and people are finally fed up. They had a candidate that was not part of the political inner circle and sent a message and elected the candidate.

    Both choices were abysmal. Both are worthless scum. But the hildabeast was part of the political machine, the Washington inner circle and thus was doomed.

  159. Dave Hardy says:

    “Watching the MSM try to avoid it was sorta fun.”

    I’ve been through that a few times in the past, particularly back in Maffachufetts during the days of John Silber and William Weld and Chet and Natalie Jacobson on the Boston station down there; I bet our MA correspondents remember those days, too. Chet and Nat just would NOT call elections even when it was clear to everyone else that they’d lost. Hardcore limousine media libtards. Boy, they hated Silber’s guts; he’d once referred to the Boston University English Department as “that damned matriarchy over there…” which really pissed off the libturds. (He was president of B.U. at the time.)

    “Props to Peggy Noonan for calling it a battle between ‘the protected class’ and the ‘un-protected class.’ Repeat of the quote ‘T’s supporters take him seriously but not literally, while his opponents take him literally but not seriously.”

    Noonan has also been a pleasant minor surprise in recent years; I’d written her off as a typical RINO media shill for the regime but she seems to get it as to what’s been going on, to some extent. I don’t think she fully realizes the level of loathing and visceral hate for the regime that exists out here for many, however.

  160. Nick Flandrey says:

    Scott Adams should be taking a star turn about now, since he called it.

    I like the list of newspapers and their endorsements- not one Trump, except Vegas.

    The financial guys seem to all see a crash followed by recovery. Buy the Dip worked for some speculators in the futures market this morning. Not sure it’s gonna keep working. I wouldn’t touch the market with a 10ft pole, but I’ve made no secret that I got out everything I could some time ago. This is NOT the time for the little guy to be running with the herd.

    n

  161. Miles_Teg says:

    Okay DH, any reaction yet from the fembots? 🙂

  162. Dave Hardy says:

    “Hey, what about me? My poll had Trump at 125% DAYS ago…”

    Indeed. Hats off, sir!

    “They country is RED, the cities are BLUE. Without a massive mobilization outside the 6 big cities, the RED will never win again.”

    Agreed. I think this is a God-given window of opportunity to get our ducks lined up as fast as we can here. If we muff this, we’re gonna be fucked forever, or at least a few generations more.

    “Both choices were abysmal. Both are worthless scum.”

    I agree but hope that Trump will somehow “rise” to the occasion and prove a half-decent guy who mostly has our interests at haht. If not, well, we set a low bar.

    It was a close fucking call, too, and I would not have expected her to concede so early. Maybe something else is going on, like the actual rulers told her to hang it up and take a hike, finally. Someone may also have finally got the upper hand in the battle between the Deep State and the Normals and somehow been able to forestall the CCM.

    But we’ll see as this week progresses. While keeping an eye on the shenanigans coming up in those cities.

  163. Nick Flandrey says:

    I like this comment from ZH as a summary

    A message to all you misguided Hillary supporters:

    This country has been under imminent threat of takeover and destruction by foreign and corporate interests. Your candidate, a career criminal was put in place and paid by them to finish the job. So get over it, and be thankful that despite the ballot stuffing, the rigged polls and voting machines, and shameful propaganda from the mainstream media, the American people finally woke up and put a stop to it. So come out of your safe spaces and buck up. World War 3 may well have been averted by what happened last night and we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

  164. Nick Flandrey says:

    And the only violence reported so far seems to be on college campuses.

    n

    Oh, and outside the White House

  165. Nick Flandrey says:

    And oh my the ignorance is painful

    “Americans have just screwed the world yet again,’ said Syed Tashfin Chowdhury, a Bangladeshi who has several close friends in the US. ”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3919356/Im-afraid-Muslim-shock-Trump-heads-victory.html

    –yup, that’s us, screwing the world with ideas like freedom of religion, speech, etc. Building systems like GPS, inventing the internet, and cell phones.

    And in the spectacularly wrong ideas category, this muslim:

    “‘I’m very afraid, will there be more wars? Will America attack Muslim countries again?’ asked Indonesian activist Alijah Diete as Donald Trump edged closer to a shock victory in the US election. ”

    –the ignorance is breathtaking.

    “‘I am disappointed to see Donald Trump winning because Hillary Clinton is a good woman, she is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world,’ said Ishaq Khan, 32, speaking at an Islamabad market.

    ‘She was talking about world peace – but Trump was talking about fighting against Muslims.’

    — she might have been talking, but she was actively starting wars in muslim countries, while Trump has only been talking about STOPPING fighting, and I guess even muslims conflate the ideas of “muslim terrorists” and “muslims.”

    n

  166. dkreck says:

    Just as an aside did y’all notice Sheriff Joe Arpaio lost after a six term run? No chance illegal immigration had anything to do with that.

    Oh wow man. California legalizes recreational pot. (going to be over-regulated however)

  167. Dave Hardy says:

    “Okay DH, any reaction yet from the fembots?”

    Apparently Mrs. OFD and I kept waking up all night and checking our smartypants phones for the latest bumf. So she’s now a little bummed and apprehensive, but realizes the exact same thing quoted from Peggy Noonan by Mr. Nick; it’s a revolt of sorts. And she also hopes we’ve seen the last of the fucking Clintons.

    Princess was not, in fact, registered to vote down here, and so one less for Cankles, et. al., but I found out she is buddies with two of our lefty political hacks up here, the woman candidate for governor, who was crushed, despite spending zillions on nonstop tee-vee ads and flyers touting how she saved the state during Irene, and the guy who is now gonna be our Lieutenant Governor. So we’ve split the ticket here again, which Vermonters seem to enjoy doing.

    I gotta check my own little AO here whenever someone gets the data online. Or grab the local rag later today.

  168. Dave says:

    It’s really quiet around here. Very little email, and this site has had only 737 views so far today. I guess everyone is holding their collective breath.

    I was busy voting.

  169. SteveF says:

    I guess even muslims conflate the ideas of “muslim terrorists” and “muslims.”

    Go figure.

  170. dkreck says:

    One more from the California initiatives. Proposal to require porn actors to wear condoms. Hard to believe that ever ended up as ballot proposition at all but it was voted down. Voters here want their porn real.

  171. SteveF says:

    I wonder if Trump would make me Secretary of Offense, or Undersecretary of State for International Offense. I’m willing to learn to say “Suck it, loser!” in as many languages as necessary. Philippines wants protection from Chinese territorial grabs? Suck it, losers! Bangladesh had another earthquake and desperately needs assistance? Suck it, losers! Saudi-funded IS terrorists are rolling into Saudi Arabia? Suck it, losers!

  172. Nick Flandrey says:

    The protests in Oakland look like the only real violence last night, and when you look at the crowds, it’s more racial agitators than “students”. Judging by the tshirts it’s la raza and others with anchor babies going to college for grievance studies leading the way.

    n

  173. SteveF says:

    it’s la raza

    -cough- napalm -cough-

  174. nick flandrey says:

    Oh I forgot how we are screwing the world by paying for all that new drug development, and by buying all their chintzy crap in container loads.

    damn us and our consumerism

    n

  175. Nick Flandrey says:

    Good summary:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-09/what-has-donald-trump-promised-to-do/8009846

    you know, anyone could have put this together. Anyone could understand it. Took foreigners to do so. That should say something….

    n

  176. Nick Flandrey says:

    “Suck it, losers!”

    –Hard Luck Hank fan?

    n

  177. Miles_Teg says:

    DH wrote:

    “And she also hopes we’ve seen the last of the fucking Clintons. ”

    Not a chance. Chelsea 2024!

  178. Dave Hardy says:

    Yeah, can’t wait: Princess Chelsea, with the $3 million-dollar wedding paid for out of “Foundation” funds. i.e., stolen money. Another crime family principessa with the wrong daddy walking her down the aisle.

    By then we should be well on the way to major SHTF status here; that’s eight years away. Regardless of what Trump does or does not do.

    The system is too broke; he can put his finger in the dike but sooner or later he’ll have to run home for his lunch or whatever and we gon hab us some fun then. Oh wait, that didn’t come out right.

    He can try to shore us up against the coming collapse and flood and implosion, etc., and we’ll have some breathing space and time, but there’s no stopping the coming mess. We’re too far gone.

    Third-largest country in the world with $20 trillion in debt that they’ll admit to currently (actually ten times that) and half a billion to a billion firearms, crumbling infrastructure, financial house of cards, swarms of Turd World immigrants making a total mockery of our borders, endless wars in every generation that we can’t afford, a miserably failed education system and several generations of ignorant Murkan derps, and half the country is outraged while the other half is outraged at our outrage. \

    What could possibly go wrong?

  179. Nick Flandrey says:

    BILLY JOEL LYRICS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAObGy7fVrk

    “Miami 2017 (Seen The Lights Go Out On Broadway)”

    Seen the lights go out on broadway
    I saw the Empire State laid low
    And life went on beyond the Palisades
    They all bought Cadillacs
    And left there long ago
    They held a concert out in Brooklyn
    To watch the island bridges blow
    They turned our power down
    And drove us underground
    But we went right on with the show

    I’ve seen the lights go out on Broadway
    I saw the ruins at my feet
    You know we almost didn’t notice it
    We’d seen it all the time on Forty-second Street
    They burned the chuches up in Harlem
    Like in the Spanish civil war
    The flames were ev’rywhere
    But no one really cared
    It always burned up there before

    I’ve seen the lights go out on Broadway
    I’ve watched the mighty skyline fall
    The boats were waiting at the battery
    The union went on strike
    They never sailed at all
    They sent a carrier out from Norfolk
    And picked the Yankees up for free
    They said that Queens could stay
    They blew the Bronx away
    And sank Manhattan out at sea

    You know those lights were bright on Broadway
    That was so many years ago
    Before we all lived here in Florida
    Before the Mafia took over Mexico
    There are not many who remember
    They say a handful still survive
    To tell the world about
    The way the lights went out
    And keep the memory alive

  180. lynn says:

    @Mr. Lynn; your son still involved with the gun store biz?

    Yes but not very. He does not have a retail store front.

  181. lynn says:

    Not a chance. Chelsea 2024!

    Not if Michelle 2020! takes it.

  182. lynn says:

    Drudge is living the dream ! Looks like his traffic over the last 24 hours is up 4X.

    “VISITS TO DRUDGE 11/09/16

    0119,350,224 PAST 24 HOURS”

    http://drudgereport.com/

  183. ech says:

    The financial guys seem to all see a crash followed by recovery.

    Yet the market closed up 1% today….

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