08:54 – Barbara left this morning in time to get to the charity golf tournament by 0630. No idea when she’ll be home, so Colin and I have wild women and parties planned for the day.
We went out for dinner yesterday and then headed over to the range for the monthly meeting of the Alleghany County Rifle Association. The same 8 or 9 guys were there as last month. That’s pretty common with groups like this. ISTR that the club has something like 200 members, but most never show up for meetings. There’s always a match on meeting nights. Last night it was shooting clays. They had a thrower set up, and one of the guys had the back of his SUV full of cases of clays. He said he’d gotten them really cheap at Walmart. We found out why later. Literally half or more of the clays fragmented right out of the thrower. A more usual ratio for good quality clays is something like 1% or less. These clays had obviously either been dropped or gotten wet. Barbara and I didn’t shoot, mainly because the only shotguns we have (or had, before we accidentally dropped them in the lake) are three tactical shotguns with 18.25″ barrels and open chokes. Still, we had a good time just watching. Barbara is embarrassed to shoot with these guys watching, because she’s shot only a few rounds of sporting clays. I told her there’s no need to be embarrassed. Some of the guys were pretty decent. One didn’t miss at all. But some of them aren’t experienced clay shooters, and they missed about as often as they hit. And I told her that I suck at shooting clays, too, so she sure wouldn’t be alone. It’s all in good fun anyway.
Speaking of embarrassed and vis-a-vis a discussion we had in the comments yesterday about younger people being victims of the precipitous decline of US public schools over the last few decades, I got email from Brittany, saying that she doesn’t plan to post any comments here. It’s not an OPSEC issue, as it is with Jen. Brittany has been reading the posts and comments here, and is embarrassed to post because she thinks the literacy level of regular commenters here is so much higher than her own. I told her that she wrote perfectly acceptably. The only things I’d noticed were a couple of spelling errors and a few errors in using apostrophes or switching nominative/accusative case, both of which are pretty common in casual writing, even amongst us hyper-literate old guys. I told Brittany that from her writing, I’d guess she was in her 40’s or 50’s rather than her late 20’s, and that she had nothing at all to be ashamed of. (Or, for you hyper-literate guys, “…nothing at all of which to be ashamed.) So we’ll see if she starts posting comments.
Tonight’s the night for the anonymous-organized protests in 37 large US cities. It may turn out to be nothing, or it may be tragic. Let’s hope for the former.
And of course our sympathies go out to the people of Nice, France, 80-some of whom were killed and many more injured yesterday by a musloid maniac. Fortunately, there don’t appear to be many smart musloids. The recent outrages were simply affairs that could be and probably were planned, organized, and carried out by someone with a room-temperature IQ. What worries me is that a musloid with a bit more on the ball mentally will organize and carry out an attack that causes thousands or tens of thousands of casualties rather than dozens. It wouldn’t be that difficult. Just off the top of my head, I can think of half a dozen ways to do that, none of which require any resources that would be particularly difficult or even expensive to acquire. Fortunately, very bright people are very seldom inclined to apply their abilities with mass murder as the goal. Let’s hope it stays that way.
But just in case it doesn’t, it would be a very good idea to avoid places where large numbers of people gather, and to acquire at least a supply of water and food sufficient to allow you and your family to hunker down and wait out such an event.
10:02 – Another email from Brittany, which she was in the process of writing when I posted earlier this morning. She said it was okay to publish it, but to please “clean it up” first. (I’m posting it without any changes, and I suspect a lot of commenters will tell her to stop worrying.) She seeks advice about prepping on a budget.
I’ve been reading web site articles about defending ourselves if things melt down and they all seem to recommend an assault rifle. My husband shoots a lot but we don’t have an assault rifle. He has pistols that shoot 357 magnum and 45 auto. He reloads both and we always have at least two or three boxes of ammo for each. He has a Ruger 10-22 and we buy boxes of 500 shells for it. He has a 870 shotgun that he uses for hunting and skeet and a 223 bolt action with a scope that he uses for target shooting and varmints. He also has a lever-action cowboy rifle that shoots 357. We could afford to buy an assault rifle but there are so many other things we need to buy that I wonder if we really need one. What do you think?
To which I replied:
First, I posted your email without “fixing” anything. There’s nothing wrong with your writing.
I think you have enough guns to defend yourselves. After all, there are only two of you. An AR-15 rifle with spare magazines and a decent amount of ammunition is going to cost you $1,000 or so, and it sounds like you have plenty of other places to spend that $1,000. If I were you, I’d put an AR-15 on my wish list, but don’t buy one until you’ve covered other areas to your satisfaction.
Some things you might want to do to enhance your existing collection of guns:
o It sounds like your 870 pump shotgun probably has a relatively long barrel with a fairly tight choke. To make that 870 more suitable for self/home defense, buy a spare tactical barrel (18.25″ long with an open choke) and keep it on the shotgun. You might also want to buy 100 rounds or so each of either #4 or #00 buckshot and the same number of rifled slugs.
o A lot of people will scoff at the idea of using a .22 rimfire for defense, but it allows you to put a lot of rounds out and no sane person wants to be shot even with a .22 LR bullet. I’d suggest you buy a spare magazine or two for the Ruger 10/22. Buy only Ruger-branded magazines. The after-market mags sold by third-parties just aren’t very reliable, especially those with very high capacities.
o Some people are contemptuous of lever-action rifles for defense, but the truth is they’re an excellent choice. The .357 is a marginal man-stopper from a short pistol barrel, but the higher velocity from a rifle/carbine barrel helps a lot. It’s also an economical choice, as .357 Mag is relatively inexpensive to buy and even cheaper to reload, and you don’t need to buy a lot of expensive magazines for the lever-action. Just practice the “shoot-one-load-one” method to keep your rifle’s built-in magazine tube topped up. Also, your husband might want to reload some .357 specifically for the rifle. He can load those rounds “hot” and mark them only for use in the rifle. If he loads them with lightish bullets, that rifle will shoot pretty flat out well past 100 yards.
o Finally, you don’t say how much you shoot, if at all, but if you aren’t an experienced shooter, now would be a good time to get some experience. Get your husband to take you out and teach you to shoot. If that’s a bad idea, get someone else to teach you. But get someone to teach you.
My readers/commenters are not a shy bunch, so I expect you’ll see many comments explaining why my advice is completely wrong and telling you what you should do instead.
Meh, that shouldn’t be a problem. If she has something to say, the literacy level shouldn’t matter much. Joking regarding amusing errors should be expected, but not any real criticism.
And we wonder why were just a bunch of curmudgeonly old farts, and with the exception of yours truly, hyper-literate.
It does help to lift the overall tone of the comments section here so it’s not all ‘u r so stupd’ ‘first!!11!!!!!’
I think of most commenting as a casual conversation, with occasional bouts of “wall-o-text” that approaches an ‘article’. I expect some writing to be a little bit more planned (if it is longer), or at least edited for comprehension, but for most of my own comments, I just give a quick glance over to make sure I’ve got its and it’s, and the theirs, there’s and they’re in the right places. [just did that for this section]
If it’s worth taking the time to write (and expect others to read) it’s worth at least a bit of thought.
One of the really nice things about this democratization of publishing and communication, is that age and education can be irrelevant online. One of the people I miss the most from the blogosphere is Rachel Lukas. She was funny and had very sharp insights, and was “just” a young woman from the suburbs with no particular background in politics. The old joke from the very beginning of the interwebs was that “On the internet nobody knows you’re a dog.” (drawing of a dog sitting at a computer)
Now one of the drawbacks is that EVERYONE can know you are an IDIOT, if you do something boneheaded (as semi-celebrities find out weekly), but that’s what an online persona is for. A bit of isolation between your real life and online life in case you screw up big time.
In other words, Welcome Brittany, don’t worry about keeping up appearances, you will probably find you surprise yourself and rise to the occasion. And, as I said earlier, newbie or basic questions are a great way to open a discussion and help us all expose hidden assumptions, and weaknesses in our own thought process. Everyone has something to contribute, even if it ends up being a lesson on what not to do (which we can all learn from) so welcome to the club! (you’ll get your secret handshake, the passwords to the teacher’s lounge, and membership card by courier sometime in the next few decades….)
nick
I’m actually terrified that Brittany and Jen will somehow team up and come after me. They’re both formidable women. If Barbara were ever to join them, I’d be dead meat.
I tend to think there are a couple of varieties of musloid attackers; the loose cannon, lone-wolf types, who flip out somehow and activate themselves, and the actual planned stuff run by some imam or cell leader somewhere. My guess is that the former will occur more often in Europe and here as copycat events and the latter likewise, as it appears they’re stepping up the frequency and severity of attacks. Not all of them have room temp IQs, and some of the 9/11 bastards came from middle-class and STEM backgrounds. (when we had our SDS and Weatherman terrorism going on, most of them also came from the upper-middle-class and pricey educations.)
In any case I expect more of the same and we may get a taste of how some of this is gonna work tonight and tomorrow via the Cleveland events; meanwhile Obola and Cankles are jacking up their bloviating about gun control here and using the deaths and mayhem in Dallas and France for that purpose.
I’d echo RBT’s advice; avoid large crowds and events for the foreseeable future, regardless of childrens’ or other family wishes and demands. Meaning, skip the trips to Disney World (despite their allegedly amazing security) and the malls on Black Friday and during the wunnerful Xmas season. Ditto sporting events and rock concerts. “But isn’t this caving in via cowardly fashion to the terrorists? Shouldn’t we just keep on living per usual to spite them?” Hey, to me it’s not worth the chance and I hate crowds and noise, anyway, but YMMV.
And it reminds me of the late General MacArthur back in the Great War, strolling along, unconcerned, with his swagger stick and cigar along the front of the trenches in the face of massed German machine gun fire. He was unscathed and it was a wonder to behold. You and yours may not be as fortunate.
Heh. I just realized that my first post this morning was long enough that a lot of people may not notice my later post below the fold. At first, I was going to avoid mentioning it so that Brittany would think all you guys agreed with me. 🙂
I’m a college graduate and on the high side of 50 and Brittany’s writing seems pretty good to me. She and her husband are far more prepared in the firearms department than I am.
As a hyper-literate recovering English major, I see nothing wrong with her writing, either, and agree 100% w/RBT’s recommendations for firearms.
I’d also recommend not calling standard ARs of any caliber “assault rifles,” however, as this is the term used by rabid anti-gun activists, wack jobs and politicians, or as the late Jeff Cooper called them, “hoplophobes.” They’re simply semi-automatic rifles, one shot at a time; those that can fire bursts like a machine gun are “selective-fire,” i.e., the standard-issue M4 rifles issued to our troops and police.
re Brittany’s self defense message, above: What exactly were you supposed to clean up? It looked fine.
Metaphorically or as long pork? While you’ve been making your SHTF plans, who knows what plans they’ve been making?
Barbara is actually pretty good about my prepping activities, and getting better the more she reads recent news articles. But if she does give me a hard time about something, I think I’ll use your method. I’ll tell her, “No, this stuff is just for me. If the SHTF, I’m not going to share it with you.”
No wait, she’d probably kill me as I slept.
You sleep? Well, there’s your problem right there.
Something else strikes me. I don’t know what the male/female breakdown is among readers of this site, but I’d guess 99% male would be about right. And yet, I very seldom get email from men asking my advice on prepping, while there are several women who’ve done so. I suppose that shouldn’t come as a surprise. In my experience, men know it all (or think they do), while women know what they don’t know and aren’t ashamed to ask for the help of someone more experienced. I do know from my experience teaching shooting and martial arts that women are, almost without exception, much better students than men are.
And of course, I tend to sound authoritative, even when I’m making shit up. I have to watch that.
By the way, if my wife simply gave me a hard time about stockpiling and other preparations, I’d grumble about it but no more than that. What puts her in the “other” category rather than the “family” category is her raiding the supplies without replacing them or at least telling me about it, disposing of water and other things she thinks we don’t need, and telling everyone and his cousin that her idiot husband has been getting ready for a crisis, which of course will never occur.
Another jet just flew over the house, which happens at least several times a week. I don’t know what type of jet because I’ve never gotten outside fast enough to spot it, but from the sound it seems to be a fighter jet flying at very low altitude, I’m guessing less than a thousand feet. It terrifies Colin, who runs under my desk to hide.
They fly generally east to west (from the sound). They’re not supersonic (no boom), but from the short duration of the noise they must really be hauling ass. It’s maybe ten seconds from the time it first becomes audible until the noise disappears.
“You sleep? Well, there’s your problem right there.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJtgWU5BqvM
Yikes, from 1980. I was a 27-year-old street cop on the night shifts in a “crime-impact area,” lol. Tempus fugit.
Zevon’s daughter lives up here somewhere and had a restaurant going for a while down in lovely Barre. Restaurants come and go and seem to be a tough biz; and then are those that inexplicably last for decades.
Just rambling incoherently here to avoid going back out to sweathog the back yard or do tax forms….
Without disputing your main point, I suspect there’s some sampling bias. Many fewer women pursue firearms or martial arts or minimal self defense instruction. The fraction of women who do so may be outliers in terms of personality or motivation, or else have some particular driving reason for going to the class.
Anecdote-not-data warning applies: My experience in day-to-day life is that women are at least as likely as men to opine on matters in which they know nothing or to ignore the advice of experts. Again, not data, and there’s definitely a sampling bias in the women I come in contact with.
You aren’t completely wrong, I think your advice was great. As to any disagreements we have, I prefer to think of it as a debate producing better results than any of us would come up with as an individual. I wish I had half the prepping knowledge that some of the guys here do. Actually, I wish even more that I had a few good real life friends with half the prepping knowledge that some of you do.
Steve, Steve, Steve. For shame! I’m sure you meant to write “…the women WITH WHOM I come INTO contact.”
And you call yourself an editor. 😉
“Another jet just flew over the house, which happens at least several times a week.”
Sounds like fighter jets zooming outta Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro. Several fighter wings there and just like up here with the Green Mountain Boys, they dig low-altitude buzzing.
Heh. I go exactly the opposite direction. My face-to-face speech, even more than my writing, is full of “this is probably true if the following conditions apply” or “it could be A or B or C, more likely A than the others but none can be ruled out” or “most often” or “tends to” or other caveats that people tend to think I don’t have a clue what I’m babbling about. In point of fact, what I say is precisely and logically correct (barring errors) and clearly delineates what I know, what I deduce, and what I don’t know. Managers and other pinheads are too dim to understand any of that, though.
Not at all. I don’t buy into “do not end a sentence with a preposition”, nor into “do not split infinitives”. If the sphincter police want everyone to turn English into Latin, they’re welcome to do so — to want it. And I’m free to ignore them.
Yeah, I explained to Barbara that a jet hauling ass subsonically still covers 10 miles a minute. SJAFB is about 250 miles to our east. It might also be the ANG folks out of Albermarle, about 110 miles to our SE. But whoever it is, we’re in their flight path.
“That, madam, is an absurdity, up with which I will not put.”
I’ll chime in on Brittany (NHRN) and her actual question, which is “do I need an additional rifle platform, or should we spend the money on something else” [paraphrased]
If you are going to ADD a platform (AR or AK or something from Keltec or more exotic) I’d say NO.
If you were thinking of selling the hodge podge and standardizing on a rifle that is a jack of all trades and a master of none (and a similar pistol) I’d say MAYBE. You currently have the often recommended combination of arms. Defensive pistols (assuming they aren’t cowboy action pistols or something limited like that but are modern pistols); small bore rifle, bolt action rifle, common and versatile shotgun. There are advantages to standardizing, there are arguments to be made for keeping what you have and are familiar with (IF you are familiar with them.) One advantage of the .357 is the ammo remained on the shelves during previous shortages of everything else. One advantage of the bolt action 223 is it probably doesn’t LOOK like a scary black rifle.
You are missing the often recommended ‘military style’ rifle, but you are pretty well gunned up!
If it were me (and I started with a similar, ‘add one of each category’ approach) I would prioritize CARRY PISTOLS for you and him. I think a lightweight and concealable pistol for every day carry will do way more for you than another long gun. You can get his and hers, with some training and ammo for about what one rifle and ammo would cost, and if fills a hole in your inventory. He can even stick with the .357 or .45 as there are compact versions for those calibers. CARRY PISTOLS will do a lot more for your personal security than another long gun in the safe.
The bigger issue is one I can’t address without knowing more about your general preparedness.
Do you have the basics of living covered? Food and water stored? Alternative power? Reliable vehicle? Money for a rainy day?
What are the primary threats in your area? Hurricane? Tornado? Civil unrest? Crime? Cold? Do you have the basics in place to get you thru those?
If you have the basics covered, then get carrying, THEN worry about another long gun.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it. 🙂
nick
“”Tonight’s the night for the anonymous-organized protests in 37 large US cities. It may turn out to be nothing, or it may be tragic. Let’s hope for the former.””
Snopes says it’s a rumour.
(Oops. Brit spelling.)
The attack in Nice seems to have overshadowed the ‘day of rage’ here, at least in terms of coverage. I don’t see anything domestic, but it’s early.
What I don’t want to get missed:
“Venezuela’s economic collapse continues as its army seizes ports and the government declares itself able to take private firms’ food and goods
Venezuela’s oil-dependent economy is in freefall, partly due to oil price fall
Maduro replaced former army commander Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013
He has now put a General in charge of five ports in bid to cut corruption
-snip-
“The declaration allows the government to seize the assets of private companies to obtain essential food and goods.”
-snip-
An estimated 80 percent of food items, medicines and other basics are in short supply in Venezuela. Inflation hit 180 percent last year and the IMF has forecast it at 720 percent this year.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3686730/Venezuela-leans-military-combat-food-shortages.html
80 percent of basics. On a global time line, it happened overnight. Stock UP folks, it CAN happen here. And the flip side is that the .mil is confiscating private stocks, currently from “firms” but soon from individuals. You can bet they’ll be labeled ‘hoarders’ and otherwise vilified to make it more palatable to the masses. OPSEC.
And look at those inflation numbers, think that salaries went up 180%? 720%??? That is why we have some precious metals. Ferfal recommends junk gold, broken gold, ie jewelry like chains. His best insight? You don’t have to sell a chain all at once. You can cut off an inch at a time.
nick
“” “Another jet just flew over the house, which happens at least several times a week.”
Sounds like fighter jets zooming outta Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro. Several fighter wings there and just like up here with the Green Mountain Boys, they dig low-altitude buzzing. “”
I once had a fighter jet come up behind me and make me duck (in my little car)
on a straight stretch of US-1 south of Jacksonville.
snopes does provide a valuable service to the internet, but they are also suspect ideologically and have been accused of a variety of misdeeds as their fame and ubiquity grew. I don’t treat them as an authoritative source anymore.
That said, it doesn’t really matter if there was a true organizing force. Once the idea got out in public, it’s a self fulfilling prophesy.
This is the modern face of terrorism too. Self activated individuals, doing their own thing, for their own reasons, justified or sanctioned by an overarching belief structure.
This will be the face of the liberty movement if it comes to a shooting war too.
The idea is out there and people are feeling free to embrace it and act.
It is definitely a challenge to the forces of law and order as, once again, they find themselves fighting the last war. This probably needs more thought but our current intelligence and law enforcement community is arrayed and organized to find, track, entrap, and neutralize conspiracies. It is woefully unprepared to identify the potential or actual risks of individuals working alone or with a couple of allies of varying commitment. I think that is one of the reasons that III’pers and liberty activists have been talking about the Jedburgh model of small independent teams. No conspiracy, less chance of being identified.
nick
“My readers/commenters are not a shy bunch, so I expect you’ll see many comments explaining why my advice is completely wrong and telling you what you should do instead.”
No, No, No, you MUST have the latest version with ALL the tacticool stuff! Otherwise you will be taken for a…
OK, can’t do it. Sounds like you have a good selection there. I second advice for the short barrel for the shotgun. I might add a second weapon in one of the calibers you already have that you are comfortable shooting, if there isn’t one now. There are way more important things to concentrate on.
Like Flashlights.
“You can bet they’ll be labeled ‘hoarders’ and otherwise vilified to make it more palatable to the masses. OPSEC.”
Depends on where you live. Those of you in major metropolitan areas, maybe. That’s where government forces would be concentrated in such an emergency. Those of us in rural areas? I doubt it. The government doesn’t have the manpower, and most nominal government people in rural areas sympathize more with their families, friends, and neighbors than they do with the federal government.
I really don’t see them blanketing rural areas with APCs and confiscating food from individuals. If nothing else, individuals in rural areas tend to be much better armed. Could they kick in doors in the middle of the night? Sure, but they don’t have that many teams to do that, and losses would be extraordinarily high, both during the actual door-kicking and later from ambush. Rural dwellers in particular REALLY don’t like being told what to do with their own stuff.
@spook, I’ll see your fighter and raise you an Attack Helicopter!
I once had a pair of apache helicopters ‘pop up’ on me out of freakin’ NO WHERE. I was climbing in the Scottsdale area north of Phoenix, standing on top of biggish boulder, when suddenly, I’m looking straight across at a pilot, who’s looking straight at me, which means the nose gun is tracking me too. For a frozen moment, nothing moved, then they dropped back down and swooped off with no more than a cough cough cough sound from the rotors, and they were GONE. In the right terrain those guys are ninja ghosts…
nick
I also agree with Mr. nick’s recommendations on the carry handguns for Brittany and husband as a priority over getting another long gun; it’s here-and-now situations that are a threat, depending on, as he says, your current AO’s location and possibilities for trouble/danger. But once got, familiarize yourselves thoroughly with them, disassemble, clean, reassemble, and get the training (square range followed by defensive use). You may have a local NRA-affiliated range or club that offers this type of training.
And be wary of gun store commandos and “experts” who try to SELL you on certain firearms; do your own research and try out different weapons to see what works best for you; sounds like the mister has a bunch of those skillz already. Keep in mind also what are likely to be the most common calibers that are also proven lethal stoppers of lethal threats.
I was an old wheelgun cop and shooter for decades and was down on smaller caliber “crunchentickers” but have since seen the light with the newer and more powerful cartridges and the vast plethora of choices available to us nowadays.
Regarding guns in the river…
Years ago, canoe camping on a little river, a buddy grabbed my
canoe early one morning, intending to find a squirrel or two in
the woods across the fairly fast stream. Since he was accustomed
to a jonboat, he jammed the bow of the canoe into the bank and
immediately rolled it over, dumping himself into the water, and
coming up screaming “my little shotgun!”
It was a swift reach of river, neck deep, but we managed to steady
him while he waded barefoot and found the gun, and I dove down
and grabbed the shotgun (snorkel and mask seem to have been
involved, but really didn’t matter much).
Could be worse, as it was when I lost firearms on several occasions
in deep water, woodland fires, and thefts.
I’m still holding out for the 100kW laser in a convenient and concealable form factor. No recoil, no bang, just a short-lived bit of screaming at the start of the laser burning into the chest of the bad guy.
“This is the modern face of terrorism too. Self activated individuals, doing their own thing, for their own reasons, justified or sanctioned by an overarching belief structure.”
Add to that the social media factor, where they’ll communicate with cell phones or even burner phones and kick off “flash mobs,” which has already been done in several cities by BLM types. IIRC, Bracken covered this, from both sides.
Rumors are, however, that the various commie organizations have been coordinating the chit they plan to light off tonight with the DNC and the AG.
Things could get real sporty or just be a total snooze. We shall see.
“Sure, but they don’t have that many teams to do that, and losses would be extraordinarily high, ”
Think about volunteer groups of the inner city FSA, organized and supported by official policy to sweep thru the countryside and forage. If things are bad enough, you’d have no shortage of recruits who get first pick of the pillage and rapine (and raping). It hurts the rural areas that .gov has been marginalizing for years, gives an outlet for the rage and violence of the inner city ‘youths’, reduces the pressure IN the cities, and provides some food relief. Think Zimbabwe writ large. It’s difficult to defend against too, due to the low population density in rural areas.
nick
(not saying I EXPECT that, but that’s one way you could do it.)
“” That said, it doesn’t really matter if there was a true organizing force. Once the idea got out in public, it’s a self fulfilling prophesy. “”
I clearly recall hearing a local band, across the valley…
” Tin soldiers and Nixon’s comin’ … “
“”@spook, I’ll see your fighter and raise you an Attack Helicopter!
I once had a pair of apache helicopters ‘pop up’ on me out of freakin’ NO WHERE. I was climbing in the Scottsdale area north of Phoenix, standing on top of biggish boulder, when suddenly, I’m looking straight across at a pilot, who’s looking straight at me, which means the nose gun is tracking me too. For a frozen moment, nothing moved, then they dropped back down and swooped off with no more than a cough cough cough sound from the rotors, and they were GONE. In the right terrain those guys are ninja ghosts…
nick “”
A-10 Warthog (at an airshow) & Great Horned Owl at an old workplace
(instantly and silently on the fence in front of you) did the same.
I’m still holding out for the 100kW laser in a convenient and concealable form factor.
The laser should be mounted on a drone that autonomously follows you. Then you use a phone app with facial recognition. You could program your wife’s face in the app.
I’m actually terrified that Brittany and Jen will somehow team up and come after me.
I remember the good old days when Sarah would stop by and kick Bob to the curb.
Ah, the religion of peace at work in France:
Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.
Cankles wants to import 1,000,000 more Mooslims during her first term. Maybe she should read this article.
“” A-10 Warthog (at an airshow) & Great Horned Owl at an old workplace
(instantly and silently on the fence in front of you) did the same. “”
Let me revise that.
A-10 Warthog (at an airshow, with very flat surrounding terrain) and
Great Horned Owl (at an old workplace, instantly and silently on the
fence in front of one) did the same.
A programmer once complemented my use of nested parentheses,
not realizing that most of that came from English Major (only a
Minor in my case) habits, plus a little Fortran.
I also like to nest quotation marks, but they don’t come out quite
as intended, here.
“Think Zimbabwe writ large. It’s difficult to defend against too, due to the low population density in rural areas.”
The white farmers and ranchers were vastly outnumbered by the organized thugs and murderers. It’s the other way round here and I’d expect more than a few rampaging bands of orcs to get murderized in short order and the bodies strung up for display purposes. Of course that would be one way for the ruling elites to kick off a short, messy and brutal civil war, as more adept and intelligent activist types realize, and also know that they’d be wiped out, effectively. Either way is a win-win for the the elites, of course.
“Cankles wants to import 1,000,000 more Mooslims during her first term. Maybe she should read this article.”
She doesn’t care; that kinda chit only happens to the Dirt People.
Aw, DH beat me to it.
Yep, it’s “then let them eat cake!” Hateful Hillary has been tone-deaf since forever. Remember HillaryCare, with its crippling burden on small businesses? “I can’t be held responsible for the failure of every underfunded small business.” She got hers, thanks to connection-fueled graft, and fuck everyone else.
Still no ‘rage’ in the news. I’m headed out, guess I’ll look for myself.
n
“The white farmers and ranchers were vastly outnumbered by the organized thugs and murderers. It’s the other way round here and I’d expect more than a few rampaging bands of orcs to get murderized in short order and the bodies strung up for display purposes.”
Ayup. The population of Alleghany County is something like 11,000. If invasion by hordes of minority urban youths (to use Bracken’s term) was likely, I suspect you’d find a spontaneously organized Sparta militia would have the major roads blocked and the others under observation, with rapid-reaction forces quickly organized and quartered at various locations from which they could respond in force to any threat. We have enough Good Olde Southern Boys (and Girls) in the vicinity to defend ourselves against any such invasion. Even a thousand of them would be much more than a match for any MUY groups who made it this far, which I don’t think many would. And in a pinch, I suspect we’d have a lot more than a thousand volunteers. People up here don’t think highly of MUYs.
Hell, I’d be out there myself, even at my age, or at least manning a stronghold here. The 4 Brothers/Liberty convenience store and gas station just down the hill from us might well end up being a rapid-reaction force center that could cover the center of the county. As I’ve said before, people up here tend not to talk things to death. They just see what needs to be done and do it. In a real SHTF situation, I suspect it’d be no different.
Nick wrote:
I’ll chime in on Brittany (NHRN) and her actual question, which is “do I need an additional rifle platform, or should we spend the money on something else”
The good thing about variety, as Nick implies, is that it’s practically certain that at least some of the ammo you need is always in stock.
As to Brittany’s style, the only thing I noticed is the short sentences. But I do that too.
You know who else used short sentences? Hemingway! And he was a drunk who killed himself! Don’t let this happen to you instead you want to run your sentences on and never finish a thought and just keep going even if your audience loses interest and starts trying to interrupt you and even if they starve to death right there in front of you you don’t want to end your sentence because that could kill you and you’re much too important to the world you shouldn’t let anything kill you because your uniqueness — just like every snowflake is unique — is a unique treasure to the world and you owe it to the world and to future generations to stay alive and contributing your uniqueness for years to come and
So I guess I should be offended by my Creative Writing professor
who said I read a little like Papa Hemingway… at least in that one
short story…
But, and, so, yeah, usually long-winded, I am.
Try to use good punctuation, doh, which helps if anybody
wants to wade through it.
The lack of women posters here may not be so much the high level of the regular participants but the fact most every guy here is a GEEK!
“You know who else used short sentences? Hemingway! And he was a drunk who killed himself!”
You know who used long-ass sentences? The very late Thomas Hobbes, author of “Leviathan,” and “Behemoth,” translator of Euclid’s geometry, and translator also of Thucydides’s “History of the Peloponnesian War.” I’ve read most of that stuff over the years (as several of the Founders did, too, more so than are alleged to have read Locke) and you gotta take a deep breath before starting some of his sentences, which will go over into the next page quite often. But that’s just how he rolled. Lived to a ripe old age despite the English Civil War and being exiled to France to tutor the young Charles II.
“The lack of women posters here may not be so much the high level of the regular participants but the fact most every guy here is a GEEK!”
I think you just offended the nerds, dweebs, and goobers.
Who’re you calling “Hyper-literate”? We’ve already established that some of us are victims of the failing education system.
Where’s my safe space?
there is a decidedly ‘curmudgeonly’ vibe here…
n
I don’t know where yours is, but mine is in the basement.
““The lack of women posters here may not be so much the high level of the regular participants but the fact most every guy here is a GEEK!”
I think you just offended the nerds, dweebs, and goobers.”
A broad category encompassing all sub-groups. Please diagram including any others not mentioned. Quiz to follow.
An over-abundance of posters of women might be offputting too :-0
n
Courtesy of the secret service
http://www.secretservice.gov/events/2016-CONV/?cmp=EMC-1003145-1-6-200-1111110–US-EN-SRDISRUPT160715&ET_CID=48181&ET_RID=11715285&LINK=U.S.+Secret+Service+Press+Release+for+the+Republican+National+Convention
Road closures, special restricted area maps, and public safety announcements for RNC and DNC.
n
Check out the list of partner agencies.
Partners:
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
City of Cleveland Mayor’s Office
Cleveland Division of Emergency Medical Service
Cleveland Division of Fire
Cleveland Division of Police
Cuyahoga County Prosecutor’s Office
Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Department
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Protective Service
Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority
National Park Service
North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD)
Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District
Ohio Department of Public Safety
Ohio Emergency Management Agency
Ohio National Guard
Ohio State Highway Patrol
Transportation Security Administration
U.S. Attorney’s Office / NDOH
U.S. Capitol Police
U.S. Coast Guard
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Department of Defense
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement / HSI
U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM)
U.S. Secret Service
Everyone wants a piece of that.
n
Well, against my better judgment, I just went and got my wife from the hospital. She passed out and fell flat on her face a couple evenings ago, and the docs thought it might not be a bad idea for her to be monitored for a couple days to see what happened. Despite a screwy resident’s analysis of an xray, she didn’t break her jaw* and didn’t do that much damage to her teeth and gingiva.** The bigger problem is figuring out what happened. No brain tumors*** and nothing obviously wrong. The main doc basically shrugged his shoulders and said it’s probably a result of stress… which my wife immediately blamed on me.
* Too bad. Six months with her jaw wired shut is … it’s like a vision of the promised land!
** Insert obligatory comment about Chinese people having flat faces anyway, so what damage could she have done?
*** Imagine my surprise to learn her skull held a brain which a tumor might have lodged in.
Has anyone here who is under age 50 ever diagrammed a sentence? I’m pretty sure most or all of the folks who are at least 60 have.
Women posters….. I recall having this one hangin’ around at some point
https://img0.etsystatic.com/013/1/6112712/il_570xN.453781640_drvk.jpg
I’m at your cut off and I did, but then I attended a school district that was very good, and other than the ‘new math’ was pretty traditional.
n
Has anyone here who is under age 50 ever diagrammed a sentence? I’m pretty sure most or all of the folks who are at least 60 have.
My sixth grade nightmares return.
I think the first part of your question excluded over 90% of us. I am 51, and I have diagrammed a sentence.
I just barely qualify as under 50 and I _have_ diagrammed a sentence. Several, in fact. I believe my daughter will, but that’s only because we’re springing for private school.
Please don’t ask me to do it now. I am NOT Mr OFD.
I’m a bit older than Dave and never have. Some of the English teachers in the (public) schools I went to in the 1970s taught diagramming, some didn’t. Through what I believe was simple chance, I never got any of those who taught it.
Just dropped another 650 pounds of scrap at the yard.
quick cash indeed.
n
I also thing there was only one class of each grade in my rather large middle school that diagrammed sentences. It would have been about as common as taking Algebra before high school.
currently in my driveway, 108F, 36%RH, “feels like” 117F.
I think I’ll write up what I’m doing to beat the heat, when I get a chance.
I will say, this thing makes all the difference in the world.
http://techniche-intl.com/catalogus/hyperkewl-cooling-sport-vest.html
I wouldn’t be able to work in this heat at all if it weren’t for this vest.
The cooling neck scarf from costco and others works too.
nick
13:00 and currently 97F (feels like 103F) and heading for 104F. RH is less than 20% so any type of evaporative cooling works well. It’s a dry heat.
Bathe yourself in righteousness. It’s all worth it because you have a better vision for the future.
Let them eat solar.
Let them eat (yellow) cake.
Military coup in Turkey. Let’s hope the secular officers are in charge and quickly eliminate Erdogon’s mooslim stooges. -1000 for Obummer.
“Everyone wants a piece of that.”
Naturally. It is like unto the Keystone Kops and the Three Stooges by multiple orders of lethal magnitude. With that many costumed thugs running around with guns there’s sure to be some kind of clusterfuck incident. I’ll be all stocked up on Moxie and pretzels, whoooooeee!
“…it’s probably a result of stress… which my wife immediately blamed on me.”
Naturally. What is it with the spouses? Mine and brothers’ always placing the blame on us for bad chit that happens. Almost always brought on by THEM! Like, possibly for example, we have major SHTF and we’re not nearly as well prepped as we should be and it will all our fault.
“I’m pretty sure most or all of the folks who are at least 60 have.”
Yup, many, many times, very tedious and boring. But by Jeezum we learned English grammar!
“I recall having this one hangin’ around at some point.”
Them were the days, we’d thought they’d never end, etc. I had this one at one time, and would like a current poster; she’s still HOT!
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.79157.1341605702!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/raquel-welch.jpg
“Just dropped another 650 pounds of scrap at the yard.”
Hung up about that weight in kayaks and canoes and laid down ground cover; temps in the high 80s, too hot for me, and it kicked my butt.
“Military coup in Turkey. Let’s hope the secular officers are in charge and quickly eliminate Erdogon’s mooslim stooges. -1000 for Obummer.”
No chit??!! Wicked pissah! Good riddance to that musloid piece of chit. Hangings galore, we hope! Does this mean we can put back our air bases and ICBMs there and tweak the Russians some more? What FUN that would be!
Like Flashlights.
And batteries. I suddenly realized last night that my 200 D batteries and 400 AA batteries may not even get me through a six week hurricane aftermath of no power using my (6 ? 8 ? ) LED lanterns. Each of those lanterns burns through 4 D cells in less than a week, probably two sets per week.
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-CPX-Rugged-Lantern-X-Large/dp/B00VTJJ5DE/
And I purchased another Augason rice bucket and a flour bucket for our stash. They showed up last night and I got a lecture from the daughter about being a hoarder. I just held any comeback about feeding her if things go bad. Replies like that rarely make it past her brain damage. Unfortunately, she is getting very liberal lately.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Augason-Farms-Emergency-Food-Long-Grain-White-Rice-28-lb/22001476
I really don’t see them blanketing rural areas with APCs and confiscating food from individuals. If nothing else, individuals in rural areas tend to be much better armed. Could they kick in doors in the middle of the night? Sure, but they don’t have that many teams to do that, and losses would be extraordinarily high, both during the actual door-kicking and later from ambush. Rural dwellers in particular REALLY don’t like being told what to do with their own stuff.
The “Surviral” book had confiscation from rural farms. The tell to the soldiers was plowed and planted fields. One thing that the book did not go into was, were the confiscating soldiers really soldiers ? Or were they just a organized gang stealing food for resell in the city ? And if you get a half platoon in your front yard some morning, are you really going to fight them off ?
https://www.amazon.com/SurviRal-Ken-Benton-ebook/dp/B00R4VD7PS/
“…I got a lecture from the daughter about being a hoarder.”
Which is a terrible thing, of course, and it will be justified for the State to come take away y’all’s food and water for those “less fortunate,” etc., when the time comes. Probably too much incoming libtard hogwash off the tee-vee and net, such as has afflicted family members here as well. And if THEY said it, it must be true, whereas you and I are just old wacky nutjobs.
“And if you get a half platoon in your front yard some morning, are you really going to fight them off ?”
Yes, depending. That’s about five to seven soldiers. If they are toting standard current-issue kit, I’m taking them on. To hell with turning over anything here or risking beating or other kinds of assault. OTOH, if they know what they are about and hit us in the wee hours or at the ass-crack of dawn with heavy weapons and explosives in a multi-angle fire-team assault I guess we’re going down fighting. As far as I’d be concerned, they’re another armed gang of thugs stealing from us at gunpoint and I won’t sit still for it, not after multiple combat deployments for Uncle and years as a street cop “to protect and serve,” and not after previous generations fighting in the the two world wars, the Revolution, and King Philip’s War; they can kiss my Yankee ass.
Yeah, well, there’s a lot of bad PA fiction out there. Most authors seem not to have thought things through.
That does, unfortunately, often accompany brain damage.
“Newt: ‘If They Believe in Shariah, They Should Be Deported’”
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/07/14/newt-believe-shariah-deported/
“Thursday on Fox News Channel’s “Hannity,” following a terror attack that resulted in the deaths of at least 84 and injuries of over 100 in Nice, France, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) attacked Sharia Law and said of those who believe in it in the United States should be “deported.””
““Let me start where I am coming from and let me be as blunt and direct as I can be — western civilization is in a war. We should frankly test every person here who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported,” Gingrich said. “Sharia is incompatible with western civilization. Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia — glad to have them as citizens. Perfectly happy to have them next door. But we need to be fairly relentless about who our enemies are.””
Works for me. Simple rules are good as long as they are not too simple. And this one fits very well.
Not as good as my advice in 2001 to have them eat a ham sandwich and piss on a copy of the koran.
Bah. Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.
Yes, depending. That’s about five to seven soldiers. If they are toting standard current-issue kit, I’m taking them on. To hell with turning over anything here or risking beating or other kinds of assault.
They are just gonna be armed with M-4s and a SAW or two. No big deal. And watch out for a grenade or two through the freaking window. And a M-2 or a 7.62 mounted on the back of a humvee or two.
Are you freaking kidding me ? That would be an instant death sentence for you and everyone in your house.
And BTW, have you got a field of something growing behind your house ? That is the people who will get visited by the foraging soldiers. Especially at harvesting time.
Newt has it right. +1,000,000
Cankles wants more intelligence, I think she is referring to herself.
So Erdogan is hiding under Merkel’s skirt (pant suit?).
I predict that this is just the start of the coups.
Trump didn’t quite correctly think out this VP pick: http://fusion.net/story/325955/what-is-donald-trumps-new-logo/
BTW, freedom of religion does not mean freedom for a religion to enslave, tax, rape, torture, and kill all who are not “true believers”.
One word. Landmines. No, claymores.
Ok OFD, you keep talking about Moxie and pretzels. So… a bit of google and I land at Amazon. Suuure, 2/6pks, with FREE shipping for 23.78 just ain’t happening. Maybe for beer. I finally landed at http://www.drinkmoxie.com/ . Clicked the “store” tab and hey, whadayaknow, I can get a case (two twelve packs) for $9. Plus $13.95 for UPS. $22.95 total.
Well, what’s the preferred type of pretzel? Bows or sticks? Large or small?
I like Vegemite on my toast. Heck, I’ll scoop out a spoon of the stuff like it’s peanut butter. Moxie sounds like it will be normal.
Cold front just passed through!!!! It’s down to 101 F from 103 F. A bit of rain would be nice, the grass is brown but not yet smelling like hay.
“Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.”
You mean Allah, you infidel. They ain’t the same, lol.
“That would be an instant death sentence for you and everyone in your house.”
I dunno about instant, but we ain’t goin’ down first. Takin’ some wid us, guaranteed. And with proper VSUT and determination and ballz, maybe all of ’em.
“One word. Landmines. No, claymores.”
Indeed. After which we get the word out, by whatever means: Don’t come here and don’t fuck with us. I’ll take my cue from those Thai border patrol guys I ran into on the Cambodian border so long ago: heads on posts along the road.
“And BTW, have you got a field of something growing behind your house ?”
Directly behind our house is the curve of state road 36 as it goes past the rear gate of the town park. The only fields are the two softball diamonds and a bit further on is the marsh/wildlife refuge as two brooks converge at the estuary/bay. It’s pretty wet there, might could grow rice, but I doubt it. To our east, back up the road toward the “city” is a very long stretch of flat fertile farms from the Quebec border down the length of the lake toward Lake George in NY. They’re almost always dairy farms and/or growing corn. Roving mutant zombies and other refugees might be after the corn and the cows, I guess, but they would also face a bunch of firepower from people whose livelihood that is, along with food supply. If you do that Google Earth thang, you can see the dozens of square miles of farmland running between us and the “city.”
“I predict that this is just the start of the coups.”
Good prediction. Hope there is one here.
“Well, what’s the preferred type of pretzel? Bows or sticks? Large or small?”
Thou hast asked and thou shalt receive, sir: First, Moxie is probably an acquired taste; it’s sorta like Dr Pepper but different. I get it in the big bottles, don’t wanna mess with a bunch of cans. As for pretzels, given the choice I’d opt for those hot dough pretzels you can get in the cities, steaming, with spicy mustard, very nice in the winta. But I get a bag of store brand stick pretzels from the Food City store in town; before that I’d get Rolled Gold sticks. Wife likes regular Fritos and seltzer.
Load a tall tumbler with ice, pour in the Moxie slowly, pop open a bag of pretzels, and Bob’s yer uncle. Sit back and watch the GOP/Days of Rage frolics, on the tee-vee or the net. Could be a rockin’ and rollin’ circus or a snoozefest.
Why are you drinking tampons?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Moxie-Regular-Unscented-Applicator-Tampons-12-count-Pack-of-4/45925320
My google-foo does not get a meaning for VSUT ???
Number one former USMC son reports that a M-2 round goes through the front AND back 18 inch exterior walls of a typical mud brick house in Iraq. I would guess that it would go through a typical USA brick house also.
Yeah but those planted fields are not connected to your house. The SurviRal book had “soldiers” collecting food from farmers with fields ready to be harvested. Of course, they could stop at every rural house but I am fairly sure after a while, the word will get around and that food will be securely hidden. It is very hard to hide food growing in a field though. And the “soldiers” did not take all the food from the farmers, just more than a set amount which was variable (and I cannot remember).
Armies foraging for food used to be common until 1900 ??? “The Band” even wrote a great song about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM
Yup, RIP Levon.
Some people are contemptuous of lever-action rifles for defense, but the truth is they’re an excellent choice. The .357 is a marginal man-stopper from a short pistol barrel, but the higher velocity from a rifle/carbine barrel helps a lot.
Is that .357 lever action a short barrel (16 inches) ? If so, then it is an awesome weapon. My dad has a Browning .44 mag lever action with a 16 inch barrel that I will fight for when he passes on to the great reward. The only downside to that rifle is that it has a tubular magazine, I prefer rotary magazines in lever actions even though they hold less rounds (for safety).
Actually, per the national Canadian forensic lab, a standard brick wall does offer some protection against a .50 BMG AP round. The brick is destroyed by one round, but destroying the brick destroys the bullet.
“I’m with Hillary!”
http://www.politico.com/gallery/2016/07/political-cartoons-july-dallas-002326?slide=0
ROTFLMAO.
The only fields are the two softball diamonds
Those fields are perfect for a night air assault. You could land an Infantry company in there. All those other open spot are great, also. Game over, man, game over. They are coming for your rice and corn stores. Hillary gotta eat, fool.
It’s too bad that I accidentally lost my ZSU-23/4.
It’s too bad that I accidentally lost my ZSU-23/4.
So, the ammo to shoot that monster would be about $5,000 per minute ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4
Wow, 19 tons. I foresee that bad boy getting stuck in the fields often despite the tracks.
That does seem rather careless. Have you checked the lint trap in the drier?
I shoot only in 1 to 1.5-second bursts, so it’s not too bad. And now that it’s proven ineffective against Santa’s reindeer and sleigh I haven’t used any ammo in years.
“My google-foo does not get a meaning for VSUT ???”
Don’t panic; I just made that up: Very Small Unit Tactics. Be creative; adapt, improvise, overcome.
“I would guess that it would go through a typical USA brick house also.”
Maybe so; this is a brick house with interior walls and the cellar is mostly stone. Also, defenders might not just let guys firing M2 rounds come that close to the house.
“Those fields are perfect for a night air assault. You could land an Infantry company in there. All those other open spot are great, also.”
Sure, if they wanna send an infantry company against little ol’ me and my elderly combat vet neighbors, have at it. We’ll make it miserable and costly for them, however, before we go down. Hell, we may not even be at home; we could be coming up behind them; could be shooting down the choppers; could just walk away and come back later; could find out where those troops are sleeping and eating and peeing and pay ’em a little visit.
“…Is that .357 lever action a short barrel (16 inches) ? If so, then it is an awesome weapon. My dad has a Browning .44 mag lever action with a 16 inch barrel…”
The lever actions come in a bunch of pistol calibers, plus a few rifle calibers. I wouldn’t turn down one in .357, but my dream lever rifle was the Marlin .41 Magnum, which is scarce as hen’s teeth now. .44 Mag is good ’cause you can fire .44 Special in it.
““I’m with Hillary!””
Ginsburg has since “apologized” but we knew where her sympathies lay anyway. Not long for this world, and neither are a couple of the others. The SCOTUS has way too much power anyway; someone needs to put them on a leash and stop this nonsense of party factions playing musical chairs with the seats every time one of them croaks.
Mrs. OFD called earlier around 4 and said she was pulled off the road into a church parking lot an hour and a half out of Charlotte, SC, inside a violent t-storm with torrential downpour, most vehicles pulled off the road with her. Waiting to hear from her and her arrival at her hotel; due to fly back up here tomorrow and arrive late.
[snip] You know who used long-ass sentences? The very late Thomas Hobbes, … [snip]
And Shakespeare used too many cliches! :0
“And Shakespeare used too many cliches! :0”
He was writing for the mob audience as well as the higher classes and back then and right up until recent times we in the Anglosphere had a common cultural stock of ideas, jokes, phrases, fables, etc. which is now fast disappearing and/or being replaced by media celeb-type crap and music lyrics.
Just heard from the “better half;” line of very violent t-storms followed her from Lumberton, NC to Charlotte, SC, and lightning strikes on the road in front of her and trees being split behind her. Rather nerve-wracking. Safe now at a cabin in Charlotte and has closed the door tight on advice of innkeeper who reports large and active snake population, including a six-foot black snake in his garden. Got A-C and will be exploring tomorrow before taking a 6 PM flight back up to lovely Burlap International Airport.
Allow me to resume my role as Explainer to Old Guys, Dave: pcb_duffer was joking about how many of Shakespeare’s turns of phrase have become cliches.
I feel the.22 LR doesn’t get enough respect as a versatile and tactical round. It’s lightweight so you can carry hundreds. It is quiet and has no muzzle flash in a rifle. It’s a great varmint killer to put rabbit and squirrel on the table. It’s very accurate. And, as my cop son tells me, is the round most used in homicides. My grandfather told me he used .22s to poach deer during the great depression. The Ruger 10/22 is a great platform reliable and versatile. Do follow the instructions to buy only Ruger magazines. I have tried several non Ruger ones and had lots of issues. If I could have only one rifle the 10/22 would be my choice.
“Allow me to resume my role as Explainer to Old Guys, Dave: pcb_duffer was joking about how many of Shakespeare’s turns of phrase have become cliches.”
True, dat; now ask the next person you hear making one of those turns of phrase just where it came from; good luck. But they were cliches then, too.
“And, as my cop son tells me, is the round most used in homicides.”
Depends. Usually 9’s and 40’s in the big cities. But yeah, it’s nice to have at least one firearm in .22LR; IIRC, Mossad used to carry Ruger semi-auto pistols with the bull barrels firing .22LR for their various needs (like hitting terrorists in the air or on the ground). .22 Mag is also nice to have. Agreed on the Rugers and Ruger mags.
I’ve got some ruger 10/22 mags, new old stock, still in the package, 3 @ 9 round and a couple of long ones, 30’s I think.
Can’t sell them on ebay…..
nick
Yeah, eBay wet themselves a while back and went the way of other such ball-less, corporate rumpswabs. Fuck them. Ditto craigslist, for the same reason. Add them to the list of bad actors, like Microslop, Google, Oracle, FaceCrack, etc., etc. And any of our local businesses or organizations that quiver and pee on themselves concerning firearms and lawful firearms owners.
And the hilarity and hijinks have begun:
http://www.infowars.com/cleveland-police-have-issued-stand-down-order-at-rnc/
I’m not an Alex Jones fan but we take what info we can get sometimes; here’s a nice lesson for Murkans: cops won’t do shit for us anymore if they can avoid it. Why not? “It’s too dangerous.”
Wow. I’ll never again mention I was once a cop; this is fucking shameful.
Some heads are gonna roll in Turkey.
Looks like this time the army waited too long to act against the religionists.
n
@SteveF Maybe your wife was dehydrated and passed out from an episode of low blood pressure.
“Looks like this time the army waited too long to act against the religionists.”
Ya gotta have all yer ducks lined up before you kick off a coup d’etat. If I’d been in charge, the potentially opposing musloids would have all been whacked simultaneously. But hey, who cares? Let them all slaughter each other Over There, including Israel; we got a lot on our plate right here to deal with.
This weekend looks like it could get real sporty, and then sportier on Monday. How are they gonna deal with “New Black Panthers” showing up open-carrying? And are the cops really gonna sit on their hands while commies beat up Trump supporters?
We shall see. Gotta lay in more Moxie and pretzels.
“One in a billion” shot by a sheriff’s deputy.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/aurora/deputy-under-fire-shoots-bullet-into-suspects-gun-being-called-one-in-a-billion-shot
I’m traveling tomorrow.
Not looking forward to it.
And the destination is on the edge of the country, in hostile territory with no way out if something goes horribly wrong. No hiking home, that’s for sure. Maybe up OFD’s way, or down the coast by sea. Certainly no land route that doesn’t pass thru 3 or 4 current no go zones.
Gonna be hard for me to relax…
nick
JimM, maybe. She seems fine now, aside from having fallen flat on her face a couple days ago and then spent several days in the hospital being drugged and woken up randomly to check blood pressure or whatever. I plan to assign the 9-y-o to keep an eye on her for the weekend; let the kid feel important.
re the stupid, useless pigs in Cleveland, I’d like to be able to say I’m shocked, but I’m opposed to lying. How much of the uselessness comes from the cop on the street and how much from the “leadership” is a good question, though I’d guess the “leadership” is driving it and that it’s politically driven. And that if private security and volunteers went to Cleveland to control and contain the rioting mobs, the stupid pigs would be Johnny on the Spot, arresting the private security.
“Certainly no land route that doesn’t pass thru 3 or 4 current no go zones.”
Appalachian Trail? Runs from Georgia to Maine.
“How much of the uselessness comes from the cop on the street and how much from the “leadership” is a good question, though I’d guess the “leadership” is driving it and that it’s politically driven. And that if private security and volunteers went to Cleveland to control and contain the rioting mobs, the stupid pigs would be Johnny on the Spot, arresting the private security.”
Pretty much on-target with both hypotheses; it’s now a function of both the cops on the streets and the brass/politicians, and they feed on each other. And I just saw another comment from a veteran cop who was saying “Our job is to get home at the end of our shift to our families.” Well, Sarge, that makes you no different at all from anyone else who works for a living; so there is no justification for your “exempted” legal status and thuggish behavior.
Yeah, rest assured any private security, unless Officially Authorized, would be grabbed up immediately for “interfering with and obstructing law enforcement functions.” We will see what happens if the mobs spin outta control.
That’s a main reason I don’t do “private law enforcement” anymore. The pay for bail enforcement, vehicle repo, and such wasn’t good enough to deal with the minor risk from the nominal bad guys and the major risk from the nominal good guys.
I wasn’t hit with it myself, but I know of bounty hunters who’d had their cars thoroughly inspected by the stupid pigs when they dropped off a bail jumper. and then had the vehicle seized when the cops found an alleged marijuana seed or whatever. So far as I know, they all got the vehicles back and none of the criminal charges ever went to court, but who needs the hassle. Plus the absolute legal liability if any person, including the bail jumper or bountyhead, gets hurt in the course of arrest or transport. Plus the legal liability for any property damage, performed by the bounty hunter or the bail jumper, in the course of making the arrest. Why, it’s almost like the entire law “enforcement” and “justice” system are making it impossible for individuals to perform the functions that the government is paid to perform but is failing to perform.
“Why, it’s almost like the entire law “enforcement” and “justice” system are making it impossible for individuals to perform the functions that the government is paid to perform but is failing to perform.”
There it is. We’d be “showing them up,” which has a been a staple plot device in countless cop and detective fiction and tee-vee shows and movies. “Jim Rockford” did better work than “Dennis,” the PD lieutenant, who was always hanging around the office carrying a sheet of paper, a typical office drone ploy. And so far as firearms proficiency and SUT go, there are also countless civvies nowadays who can do it better than most LE and agent personnel.
And then there’s the public school system. As the saying goes, public school teachers are so bad that any amateur can do better.
The LCD being the State’s involvement, of course.
LCD? Liquid Crystal Display? That doesn’t make any sense.
LBD = Little Black Dress, but that not only doesn’t make sense, it’s the wrong acronym.
LSD = bizarre hallucinations and behavior, which does make sense when talking about public school teachers and the Department of Education, but again it’s the wrong acronym. Count this as a “maybe”, assuming a typo.
LCD = Low Carbohydrate Diet, but that can’t be it. The geniuses in the government have been pushing high-carb, low-fat diets, with “entirely unexpected” deleterious effects on health.
LCD = Local Climate Data, which could pertain to Anthropogenic Global Warming (which is REAL and we’re all gonna diiiieeeee!!!!!!!!!) and that fits with the dogma being pushed by the public schools. Considering that Son#1 was require to watch An Inconvenient Truth four times in 9th grade (English class, Science class, Health class, and some other class — movies are great for the teachers because it’s like having a week where you don’t have to work. Exactly like that, in fact.) this seems the most likely interpretation.
There’s also Slowest Common Denominator, which would fit perfectly when talking about public schools and the discharge of the typical School of Education, but once again it’s the wrong acronym.
LCD = Lazy Cretinous Douchnozzles
Or, Lowest Common Demons
Or, Lowest Common Denominator
YMMV
YMMV
Stop with the damn texting abbreviations. My old brain cannot assimilate.
LCD = Lazy Crazy Dave
Lynn wrote:
“Unfortunately, she is getting very liberal lately.”
Tell her that Teddy Kennedy was a hoarder.
“Why are you drinking tampons?”
Who needs applicators anyway?
“Some heads are gonna roll in Turkey.”
Quite literally I would predict since Turkey has long past the critical mass for being an islamic state.
Turkey has a long history of failed coups. You would think with all the experience they could get it right by now.
All of Europe is within a few thousand moosloids of reaching their unrecoverable critical mass, for that matter the same goes for here.
“LCD = Lazy Crazy Dave”
That evidently covers at least three or four of us now.
“All of Europe is within a few thousand moosloids of reaching their unrecoverable critical mass, for that matter the same goes for here.”
Western Europe, mainly; eastern Europe countries still show signs of having a bit of testosterone. And we have a long ways to go before we hit critical mass with musloids; but we did pass it with Hispanics a while back. They easily outnumber Afrikan-Murkans and Asians. Habla Espanol, hermano?
The Siege of Vienna was only 333 years ago. Less than a century ago the Ottoman Empire occupied part of southeast Europe.
Western Europe, by contrast, hasn’t faced any existential threats except themselves for almost a millennium. Spain ejected its Muslims over 500 years ago.
“Western Europe, by contrast, hasn’t faced any existential threats except themselves for almost a millennium.”
Well now they got one, in addition to themselves, for being ball-less and letting Commissar Merkel and the commies in Brussels, Paris and London get away with it.