Tuesday, 19 April 2016

By on April 19th, 2016 in personal, prepping

10:14 – We’re having a few days of beautiful weather around here. Highs in the 70’s (low 20’s C), sunny, and little wind. Barbara left this morning on a trip down to Winston to visit the dentist and run some errands. It’s supposed to be in 86F (30C) there today. As usual when Barbara’s away, Colin is lying at the front door barking at everything and nothing.

Here’s another book you might want to grab a copy of: The LDS Basic Food Storage Recipe Book. It’s available in PDF, Word, and RTF formats and includes 70 recipes that use ONLY the following items, which are included in the LDS one-month basic supply kit.

Product

#10 cans

best if used by

Wheat

3 cans

20+ years

White Flour

1 can

3-5 years

White Rice

2 cans

3-4 years

Quick Oats

1 can

4-5 years

Macaroni

1 can

6-8 years

Pinto Beans

1 can

6-8 years

White Sugar

1 can

20+ years

Powdered Milk

1 can

2-3 years

Cooking Oil – or

1-24 oz bottle

2 years

Shortening*

1-3# can

8-10 years

Salt

2-8 oz shakers

20+ years

 
I’m sure these recipes do the best possible job of turning basic staples into edible meals, but wow. Why cook with only those ingredients when it’s easy and inexpensive to add spices, a few cans of vegetables and meats, and a few cans of powdered butter, cheese, and eggs to turn those edible meals into appealing meals? Appetite fatigue is a very real issue, particularly among children and (in my experience) women.

Also, I’d drop those cans of wheat berries and replace them with white flour, macaroni, spaghetti, rice, other other bulk carbohydrates. Wheat berries must be ground unless you intend to boil them down to mush, and grinding is time-consuming and takes a lot of effort. And a good manual grinder isn’t cheap. Better to store bulk staples that don’t require processing. And, unless you and your family already eat a diet heavy in whole wheat, the effects of suddenly changing to heavy consumption of whole wheat are likely to be unpleasant. For those reasons, I don’t store wheat berries, period.


61 Comments and discussion on "Tuesday, 19 April 2016"

  1. OFD says:

    Agreed on the whole wheat deal; for years the biggest suggestion among prepper publications was to get a thousand 55-gallon drums of hard winter wheat (I’m exaggerating, of course), something that would rarely appeal for very long to the average Murkan derp.

    Nice weather up here so far this past weekend and today. Wife is down in Maffachufetts and I’m stuck here, and dealing with the same nasty bug she brought back from the grandkids in Kalifornia, on top of the intermittent back twinges and leg numbness. So it looks like I ain’t gonna make it down there this week; if I’m feeling better next week I’ll take a drive down, stay a couple of days, and visit family. Sister and mom both in tough shape lately. And two of my three brothers are also cancer survivors, so there’s no telling who’s gonna check out next. By rights it should be ME, but we’ll see.

  2. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Anyone who thinks dysentery is bad should try a diet heavy in whole wheat.

  3. SteveF says:

    Totally agreed on the seasonings. A couple of restaurant-size containers of basil, granulated garlic, and red pepper flakes cost very little and would go a long way toward keeping the food palatable.

    As for the rest, I’m in the “store what you eat” camp, except that not all of what the family normally eats can be practically stored. This has ripple effects, especially on getting all the vitamins we need.

  4. MrAtoz says:

    People are really down on MRE’s. I’ve survived several times in the mil for 30 day streaks. I guess I’m weird in that I could easily live off of 30 days of MRE’s in an emergency. You start to poop again after a week. Watch the desserts and you can control calories.

  5. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    We store reasonable amounts of herbs. We can grow parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme, as well as a lot of others. We store larger amounts of spices that we can’t grow, like cinnamon, cloves, cumin, mace/nutmeg, black/red/white pepper, and turmeric.

  6. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    My main objection to MRE’s is their cost, about $10 for one 1,200 calorie meal.

  7. OFD says:

    “…We can grow parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyPhQkZNLw

    ’68 was great!

    Riots, assassinations, wars, and peaches and herbs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMnEvd48jCw

  8. MrAtoz says:

    My main objection to MRE’s is their cost, about $10 for one 1,200 calorie meal.

    The Army just gave them to me. 😉

  9. OFD says:

    “The Army just gave them to me.”

    The Army’s pretty good like that. Ditto the Air Force. Except we didn’t have MREs back then; it was c-rats and k-rats. In Kalifornia and SEA I did my best to avoid all that and eat on the local economies.

  10. Lynn says:

    “U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Google Book Scanning Case”
    https://www.petri.com/u-s-supreme-court-refuses-hear-google-book-scanning-case

    Good. This concerns mostly out of print books that few have access to.

    BTW, that is a beautiful library. I am jealous.

  11. OFD says:

    “You went out last night for “a couple of drinks,” but you knew you were going to get drunk. You paid attention to someone who was not attractive or interesting, but you wanted to have sex. You and your newfound partner got in a car that neither one of you should have been driving, managed to avoid the police or an accident, and made it somewhere where you could copulate. That wasn’t what it is made out to be—it never is when you’re drunk—and the pleasure you managed to extract, if you were able to function at all, was minimal and forgettable.”

    https://straightlinelogic.com/2016/04/18/america-needs-to-throw-up-by-robert-gore/

    The sooner we rush to the porcelain altar, the sooner we can purge ourselves and start recovery.

  12. OFD says:

    Some pretty good info here for those so interested and inclined:

    https://ssd.eff.org/

  13. OFD says:

    From the How We Got to Where We Are Department:

    http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/04/coordination-chronicle.html

    Conspiracies not necessary; behold The Hive.

    And what goes on in their teensy little reptilian and often demonic brains:

    http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/04/sapir-whorf-in-saddle.html

  14. OFD says:

    Any signs of encroaching activity of this type in your AO currently???

    http://www.stopshouting.blogspot.com/2016/04/past-as-prelude-in-fusa.html#more

  15. Lynn says:

    People are really down on MRE’s. I’ve survived several times in the mil for 30 day streaks. I guess I’m weird in that I could easily live off of 30 days of MRE’s in an emergency. You start to poop again after a week.

    My former USMC son says that first poop is a real screamer. And then he got the privilege of burning the barrel of diesel and poop. Don’t stand downwind. He lived on MREs for several months on his first vacation trip to Iraq.

    I keep a box of MREs in the back of the truck when I go out of town. And a case of water. And one of those water filters. And a few other items. The wife thinks I am crazy.

    I’ve never opened that box of MREs that I got on ebay for $45. Or the other two. Somedays I wonder if they are MREs or bricks.

  16. medium wave says:

    Conspiracies not necessary

    Okay, buddy: What have you done with the real OFD?

    I’ve never opened that box of MREs that I got on ebay for $45. Or the other two. Somedays I wonder if they are MREs or bricks.

    I have a dozen on hand “just in case”; according to the manufacturer, all nutritional value is gone after five years.

  17. Lynn says:

    I have a dozen on hand “just in case”; according to the manufacturer, all nutritional value is gone after five years.

    My son brought a case of MREs home in 2007 (if I remember correctly). They were labeled 1998. Or 1989, I forget. We opened and tried three of them when my brother brought his sons over. All three MREs were just fine. The main meals were OK, not great. The hard crackers, peanut butter and jelly will last until the rapture. The candy also. Don’t know about the main meal and the side meal (one of them was applesauce ???).

    BTW, my son thought it was hilarious when one of my nephews managed to set the chemical heater on fire. Smoked up the kitchen good. Wasn’t the first time that he had seen that.

  18. Lynn says:

    Oh man, this flooding is just the gift that keeps on giving, “More road flooding expected in NW Harris Co. as reservoirs rise”:
    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/article/More-road-flooding-expected-in-northwest-Harris-7257168.php

    We have a huge retention pond on the northwest side of town called the Addicks Reservoir. It was built back in the 1930s when downtown Houston flooded with 20 ft ??? of water in it. The reservoir covers about 40 square miles. It is normally empty.

    Anyway, the dam now has 30 ft of water on the inside of it and is 40 ft ??? tall. That is 2 ft higher than ever before and it is forecast to go 3 ft higher. That is 80,000 acre-ft of water.
    http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=08073000

    I am not a big fan of high testing 80 year old dams. The Army Corps of Engineers says that the dam should hold just fine.

    @nick, the dam is about 10 miles upstream of your house ??? Wait, you are five miles upstream of the dam ???

    The Brazos river, about 1/4 mile from my house, is expected to set a peak 0.6 ft below the all time peak back in 1994.
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=HGX&gage=RMOT2

    BTW, I am amazed at the amount of online current data that USGS has. The Houston metroplex has five rivers flowing through it and all are peaking at just below old peaks or setting new peaks. Lots of new homes in the northwest side of town.

  19. OFD says:

    “Okay, buddy: What have you done with the real OFD?”

    The real OFD believes there are conspiracies galore, but mostly low-rent crap, like the kind the Klinton and Bush crime families engaged in. But why use them to explain stuff when simple stupidity, ignorance and negligence will suffice, with a good dollop of malice aforethought. The commie Hive is alive and well, and has done excellent work for itself since the 1930s in this country. Yeah, sometimes some of the members DO, in fact, sneak around and meet in back rooms and do dead-drops in the city parks, but for the most part they’re all on the same couple of pages in the commie playbook, instinctively..

    “I am not a big fan of high testing 80 year old dams. The Army Corps of Engineers says that the dam should hold just fine.”

    Same guys who said that about the barriers outside Nawlinz? Lotsa old dams and bridges like that here in the Northeast, many had been replaced after the horrific 1938 hurricane that walloped the fuck outta New England. My mom’s family lived a couple blocks from Fort Phoenix in Fairhaven, MA, the beach, in other words, and their ‘hood became an island, from which they to be rescued via rowboats. She would have been six years old at the time; next time I see her I’ll ask her about it, as she’s dynamite on ancient chit but five seconds ago not so much. Like me, actually.

  20. MrAtoz says:

    I heard on the radio a judge is letting a case against Remington go forward on the Sandy Hook shooting. WTF, over? I guess the rifle was fully “autonomous” and automatic. It just flew up and started shooting by itself. I hope a higher court says FU. What next, internal combustion engine driven cars are murdering people and ruining the climate?

    Anybody know anything about this case?

  21. lynn says:

    “I am not a big fan of high testing 80 year old dams. The Army Corps of Engineers says that the dam should hold just fine.”

    Same guys who said that about the barriers outside Nawlinz?

    Um, I spoke too soon, “If the Addicks and Barker Dams Fail”:
    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/if-the-addicks-and-barker-dams-fail-6594886

    “In April 2009, during an unnamed weather event that leveled the west side with more than nine inches of rain in 24 hours, the dams exhibited signs of irreversible failure. Five months after the 2009 storms, the United States Army Corps of Engineers, which owns the dams, which are located near the intersection of Interstate 10 and Beltway 8, slapped Addicks and Barker with an “extremely high risk of catastrophic failure” label. The dams are currently two of the country’s six most dangerous, according to the Corps.”

    If either of those dams suddenly fails, you are probably looking at thousands of dead. I’m not sure how far that 30 ft wall of water will go but it could be bad. Real bad.

    Along with, “Houston Flooding 101: Homes Will Be Ruined Until Brays Bayou and Addicks and Barker Dams Improve”:
    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/houston-flooding-101-homes-will-be-ruined-until-brays-bayou-and-addicks-and-barker-dams-improve-8334764

    Those are million dollar homes getting flooded along Braes Bayou. Hundreds of them. They were just rebuilt after the floods last May 31.

  22. OFD says:

    “Those are million dollar homes getting flooded along Braes Bayou.”

    “Hi, y’all. I’m a stupid and negligent Murkan derp but I got millions. So Ima gon build my new house in a 1.) flood zone….2.) tornado alley…3.) on the beach where major hurricanes hit every few years….4.) in a Kalifornia canyon that’s had huge mudslides over the years. It’s all good, though, ’cause I got insurance, and when my house gets destroyed I’ll build a bigger one on the EXACT SAME SPOT. Don’t hate on me ’cause your premiums go up, brah.”

    “Anybody know anything about this case?”

    Vaguely; some bottom-feeder shysters got a few families there to do a suit, as bottom-feeder shysters will do, on the theory that they’d go after as many deep pockets as they could. Standard shyster practice; throw a gob of mud and see what sticks to the wall. And in lefty logic anyway, guns have free will and their own souls, evidently, and commit all kinds of mayhem on Murkan streets. Evil white fascists in league with the cishetero-whatever patriarchy are in a giant conspiracy to blow away millions of Murkans, etc., etc. They also plan to go after ammo, so get ready for that chit this next year.

  23. SteveF says:

    Judge Barbara Bellis was first appointed to the Connecticut Superior Court by Republican Gov John Rowland. She doesn’t seem to be a flaming liberal.

    The ruling a few days ago was that the civil suit can proceed, rather than be dismissed out of hand. There’s a federal law which shields gun manufacturers from civil suits for criminal use of properly functioning weapons. Bellis held that “the law could be used to attack the legal sufficiency of the plaintiffs’ claims, but not to have the case thrown out at this early stage.” (ref) Don’t ask me to explain that. I did a year of law school, but the Bullshit and Bafflegab course wasn’t until third year. (The course Using Sophistry to Arrive at the Predetermined Outcome was a third year option, but every upper-year student that I know of took it.)

    Seriously, I can’t figure out how a suit would be allowed to start, if a standing law forces the conclusion. One of the duties of all lawyers and especially judges is to not waste the court’s resources, such as by proceeding with a case where the outcome is known before the start. (I’m paraphrasing and simplifying there.) It seems to me that the judge is failing in her duty here, based on a plain reading of the law and the standards of conduct. But then, I’m one of those people who takes a plain reading of “shall not be infringed” to mean that the right shall not be infringed, so what do I know.

  24. OFD says:

    “…I’m one of those people who takes a plain reading of “shall not be infringed” to mean that the right shall not be infringed, so what do I know.”

    May I suggest the very late Charles Dodgson’s “Alice in Wonderland” series as a means of grasping the concept of “a word means just what I say it means,” etc.? The series also could explain that Third Year optional course material.

    Having done the required reading, and in order to further our understanding of the legal issues and the various problems associated with “gun violence” and “gun control,” I also suggest dropping a large dose of lysergic acid dipthalymide and listening with quality headphones to all the Parliament/Funkadelic records followed by some Captain Beefheart.

    These fuckers just make it all up as they go along, like they’ve been doing with the votes and delegates so far in various states, you know, where Trump gets the pop vote but walks away with nothing, and Sanders wins other states and Field Marshal Rodham waddles away with the delegates anyway. More derps should be seeing this shit now and starting to wonder what the next steps are gonna be…

  25. SteveF says:

    Next steps? Well, the ballot box has been rendered moot — that is, it’s now clear to all that it’s been rendered moot — and the soap box has been increasingly restricted and regulated and banned for years now. What was that third one? It’s right on the silvertip of my tongue…

  26. MrAtoz says:

    Chains of Command delivered wirelessly.

  27. nick says:

    Eh, I’m done with marko. I read his blog for a long time and was happy to buy his books, even if I did start to see some lefty stuff there…

    Then he withdrew his nomination for the Hugo because of the Sad Puppies getting him there. FUCK that. He’s got a big bad case of “they like me they really like me” and he is pandering to the SJWs in publishing instead of his gunny original fans. He seems to think like they do that certain people shouldn’t like or read his books. So I’m obliging him, since I’m one of ‘those’ people.

    @ lynn, my house is inside the beltway, and north of 10 by a couple of miles. It’s probably safe from any kind of collapse, but my daughters’ school is just east of the eastern edge of Addicks.

    depending on where it failed, that could be bad.

    Where are they talking about it failing? It’s a big dry field surrounded by a berm most of the time.

    Gonna have to find the right freqs and listen in tomorrow…

    nick

  28. brad says:

    On the subject of government interventions you didn’t know existed: Someone makes a joke in a $42 money transfer, and has their money impounded. In the comments section, another person says that they had their entire account frozen, for something similar.

    List of words and phrases, managed by OFAC, are apparently applied to every financial transation. Get a positive, get your transaction, and possible your entire account frozen. Wonder how long it takes to get your money back / your account unfrozen? Bet on years, if ever…

  29. brad says:

    “Lord, take me now!”

    Employee, entering new events into a piece of software I wrote, which this employee has used for years. In the window where she enters a new event, there is a field called “date”.

    So she puts today’s date in. Over and over again. Because that’s what you always put into a field called “date”, right? The thought “gee, what could a date be in the context of an event” – the idea that the event might be scheduled to take place on some date, not today, and this is information said employee has in front of her, and is supposed to enter? This thought apparently does not occur to said employee.

    The request to me: couldn’t I rename “date” to something more obvious? My answer, um, no, because: what exactly would be more obvious? I note that, right next to “date” there is another field “time”, and the employee didn’t look at the clock and enter the current time.

    Truly, the universe is winning.

  30. Dave says:

    Why cook with only those ingredients when it’s easy and inexpensive to add spices, a few cans of vegetables and meats, and a few cans of powdered butter, cheese, and eggs to turn those edible meals into appealing meals?

    I’d say the Mormons are promoting this as an absolute minimum and are trying to keep the price down. I’d not be surprised if one can of powdered butter, on can of powdered cheese and one can of powdered eggs cost more than the basic kit.

    I think Mormons tell all their new converts to buy this kit first thing, and then try to teach them better. Convincing someone to spend $100 is a lot easier than convincing them to buy $200. If the organic fertilizer hits the whirling multi-vaned object, hearing the new converts whine about the bland food is much better than watching the new converts starve.

  31. Ray Thompson says:

    some bottom-feeder shysters got a few families there to do a suit, as bottom-feeder shysters will do, on the theory that they’d go after as many deep pockets as they could

    About 20 years ago there was a small plane crash at a small municipal airport. The “pilot” died. He was drunk, had no license, climbed a fence to access the airport, started the plane without the key, and tried to take off. The result was as expected.

    The family of the cretin hires some local car wreck attorney. Such low-life attorney now sues the fence maker (chain link), the fence installer, the owner of the aircraft, the airport, the last person to do maintenance on the aircraft, the tire manufacturer, the plane manufacturer, the company that paved the runway, the company that installed the runway lights, the plane engine manufacturer, basically anyone or any company that had ever touched the plane or was involved in the airport. The case got thrown out of court.

  32. Dave says:

    Disturbing story from social media, not sure if source is credible or not. Apparently a local girl smoked pot for the first time Saturday night. Unknown to her, pot was laced with heroin. Supposedly the paramedics gave the girl a shot of Narcan and she is now home dealing with over reactive parents. Narcan is now legal over the counter in Ohio, I’m thinking maybe Indiana should follow suit.

  33. nick says:

    @lynn,

    take a look at http://m.waterdata.usgs.gov/ for a good map with monitoring stations shown.

    I had my wife look over the wall this morning after dropping off the kids.

    The water is way below the top (which we know from the data) and just looked placid and calm. She didn’t see any sign of human monitoring activity. She was on the east wall of addicks.

    This is a hazard I had just not considered. 99% of the time, the reservoir is a dry field, with a golf course, park, etc. Today it’s a 20ft wall of water hanging over my kids’ heads.

    NOT comfortable with this.

    nick

    BTW I signed up for SMS text alerts for the monitoring station. If the level continues to rise or there is other news about the level at that point, I should get a text….

  34. SteveF says:

    About 20 years ago there was a small plane crash at a small municipal airport. … The case got thrown out of court.

    If the shyster wasn’t disbarred, or at least prevented from practicing for a time, then the system did not police itself.

    You see that all the time, where someone or some entity commits some kind of violation, is caught, and has to give back the stolen property, stop performing the aggression, stop violating civil rights. And nothing else. There’s no penalty for the thief, the bully, the members of the government agency, or the shyster lawyer, and no incentive not to do it again. Hey, we get away with it most of the time and the worst that’ll happen if we’re caught is we have to stop that time. There’s nothing to lose!

    There’s a reason that thieves had to pay back more than they took, under the old law. There’s a reason government employees were fired if they embarrassed their agency. And, given that lawyers have never accepted policing of their profession by anyone but themselves, there’s a reason that they’ve been largely despised for two and a half millennia or more, and why they’re often given the axe when the mob gets fed up with the system.

    (On that topic, ref the third stage of the French Revolution. Appropriate to the discussion, given that the American ruling class seems hell-bent on replicating the conditions leading up to the French Revolution.)

  35. OFD says:

    If we go the same route as the French Revolution, then we can expect a Terror of our own followed by the Revolution eating its own and then a Napoleonic dictator/emperor after that, amirite? And more empire-building wars.

    Except there’s that pesky little “official” debt of $20 trillion (actually ten times that figure) and this is the third-largest country in the world with at least half a billion guns among the population.

    In any case, I suspect that lawyers will not be high on the list of desirable skill sets to have around when it all blows up. Ditto all the usual suspects; banksters, financial speculators, politicians, gummint bureaucrats, PHB manglers, and the vast army of prolecube derps, plus most of the “underclass.” All expendable, eminently so.

    But doctors, nurses, paramedics, engineers, farmers, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc., will be worth their weight in gold.

  36. DadCooks says:

    WRT flooding in Texas, IMHO Cruz is bringing the apocalypse upon Texas so I recommend you Texans run him out on a rail. The fire and brimstone rantings of Ted’s dad are getting beyond belief and Ted is not far behind.

    Dad has just been “listening” the past couple of days. There has been some real good information and discussion.

    Finally, I dare anyone to find a difference in the rantings of Cankles and Cruz. Both are certifiable and getting worse by the day. Yes, we’re screwed.

    The quote of the week IMHO is: “shall not be infringed”

    So keep your powder dry, I am. And Depends are not just for us ol’ farts anymore 😉

  37. DadCooks says:

    “But doctors, nurses, paramedics, engineers, farmers, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, etc., will be worth their weight in gold.”

    If I’m not mistaken, one or more of them Communist Leaders (Stalin? Marx? Mao Zedong?) got rid of those too and gave it all to the “people”. Then they wondered why nothing worked, there was no food, and epidemic was the norm.

    No one is exempt.

  38. nick says:

    BTW, while navel gazing here inthe US, there have been a couple of natural disasters world wide.

    Couple shakes and an eruption…..

    nick

  39. nick says:

    And it’s raining again.

    Got another 1/4 inch in the last half hour.

    nick

  40. OFD says:

    “Finally, I dare anyone to find a difference in the rantings of Cankles and Cruz. Both are certifiable and getting worse by the day. Yes, we’re screwed.”

    As crazy ol’ OFD has been saying for YEARS. In order to even RUN for political office, one is almost always a psychopath, but I’m not THAT crazy. The Presidents come and go but the vast Leviathan bureaucracy rolls on regardless. And we’ve had some pretty nutty guys in the past, too. But focusing on that office and these campaigns as they would have us do, distracts us from What Is Really Going On in this country. And at the risk of being a tedious and sorry-ass old bore again, voting for them only encourages, enables and validates the regime’s continued depredations as they openly laugh at us now. I don’t see how anyone could watch what has been happening with the various state capers involving Trump and Sanders (opponents “winning” the state regardless of popular votes, voters rendered null and void, ballot shenanigans, voting machine fraud, and the acquisition of “super-delegates” regardless, again, of the popular vote) and still believe that their participation in this charade is worthwhile. It’s really becoming like the old Soviet Union; “here is your candidate; vote early and often, and if you don’t, we’ll repeat the exercise until you do, and if you still won’t, we’ll declare our guy the winner anyway with a landslide victory and you’re now on our permanent shit-list.”

    “…while navel gazing here inthe US, there have been a couple of natural disasters world wide.”

    Indeed. And we’re sending more troops to Iraq so we can “retake” Mosul; standing up another AF unit in the Philippines; playing footsie with the Chicoms and the NORKs; and more shit-storms in Syria and “Ukraine.” The regime is hoping, clearly, to touch off a hot war somewhere or other to distract us again from crap here at home. Got a kid in the military? Neighbors got one? This is the kind of shit they get sent to, and nothing’s changed much in 3,000 years.

  41. MrAtoz says:

    Gimme some aqua Mr. Nick.

  42. SteveF says:

    Rapper Shot, Killed in Chicago While Rapping About Guns

    I suppose it would be mean-spirited to laugh.

  43. Rick H says:

    WRT to the “LDS Prep Book”, note that the site is not an official site of the LDS Church. It is made up of articles by LDS members and others, and is not official ‘policy’, even though the URL would make it appear to be an official site. They do have a disclaimer there, though, for those that can find it.

    “Official” LDS Church guidance starts here: https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage?lang=eng , with other pages having some additional information.

  44. OFD says:

    “I suppose it would be mean-spirited to laugh.”

    At least three or four micro-aggressions here; let me count the ways:

    1.) You “suppose,” leading off with snark.
    2.) “mean-spirited” used to snark at nice liberals who’ve been using it to describe “conservatives.”
    3.) Introducing laughter as an appropriate response to a young child’s death by gunshot.
    4.) Merely posting the link here in the first place, with malice aforethought.

  45. MrAtoz says:

    At least three or four micro-aggressions here; let me count the ways:

    You forgot raaaycissss!!!

  46. ech says:

    Those are million dollar homes getting flooded along Braes Bayou.

    Probably more like $400-600k. They are about a half mile south of me. The million dollar homes are the newer McMansions that went up after we got put into the 100 year floodplain and are required to be raised by 3-5 feet above the ground.

    The houses that got flooded last year were all told that this was the last time they could repair. If they got flooded again, they would have to raise their house – which is possible for a slab house, but costs as much as a rebuild. I expect more of the houses will end up being scraped off and a new, raised house built. In some areas, the county has bought the houses in order to use the land as informal retention ponds.

  47. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    @Rick H

    Good point. Incidentally, even if you’re not a member of the LDS church, you can register as a friend. That gives you access to some useful stuff that’s not available for unregistered users.

  48. OFD says:

    “…even if you’re not a member of the LDS church, you can register as a friend.”

    As in, Society of Friends? Sure. But what kinda useful stuff?

    I can’t wait till I get a million bucks so I can build a McMansion on a flood plain, tornado or hurricane zone, on an earthquake fault or in a canyon prone to mudslides, or hell, why not just cut to the chase for excitement and put it in the middle of an inner-city war zone?

  49. SteveF says:

    put it in the middle of an inner-city war zone

    With a wall around the property,

    and Claymore mines built into the wall.

  50. dkreck says:

    Well insurance rates and lenders should stop people from building in dangerous areas. And no bailout from Uncle (California earthquakes exempted 🙂

  51. lynn says:

    Those are million dollar homes getting flooded along Braes Bayou.

    Probably more like $400-600k. They are about a half mile south of me. The million dollar homes are the newer McMansions that went up after we got put into the 100 year floodplain and are required to be raised by 3-5 feet above the ground.

    The houses that got flooded last year were all told that this was the last time they could repair. If they got flooded again, they would have to raise their house – which is possible for a slab house, but costs as much as a rebuild. I expect more of the houses will end up being scraped off and a new, raised house built. In some areas, the county has bought the houses in order to use the land as informal retention ponds.

    Yes, most of those houses were built in the 1960s before Braes Bayou was a problem. We lived five houses away from the Meyer’s house from 1973 to 1977. Our old house got three ft of water in it about a year after we moved to the Land of Sugar. The old Meyers house sat on 3 or 4 acres of land lower than our house and is now a retention pond.

    BTW, the new flood control plan for Braes Bayou has up to five rows of houses being demolished and Brays Bayou widened from 300 ft to 1200 ft. North and South Braeswood will be relocated as necessary. The cost is budgeted at $480 million and is on hold due to the drainage fee litigation.

  52. lynn says:

    Anyone who thinks dysentery is bad should try a diet heavy in whole wheat.

    I am reading “Ashen Winter”. In desperate circumstances, can one eat wheat berries soaked in water overnight?
    http://www.amazon.com/Ashen-Winter-Ashfall-Trilogy-Mullin/dp/1933718986/

  53. SteveF says:

    I wouldn’t think so – humans can’t digest uncooked grain, unless there’s been an update to human biology or gut microbiome that I haven’t received.

  54. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Actually, people can digest grain whether or not it’s cooked. The issue is the whole wheat part. People who aren’t used to eating a lot of whole wheat generally don’t react well to a sudden change to all that fiber.

    I’ve never tried eating wheat berries that have just been soaked overnight, but I wouldn’t think that would soften them enough. Boiling them down to a mush works, although the resulting gruel is pretty disgusting.

  55. lynn says:

    Actually, people can digest grain whether or not it’s cooked. The issue is the whole wheat part. People who aren’t used to eating a lot of whole wheat generally don’t react well to a sudden change to all that fiber.

    I’ve never tried eating wheat berries that have just been soaked overnight, but I wouldn’t think that would soften them enough. Boiling them down to a mush works, although the resulting gruel is pretty disgusting.

    Uncooked cream of wheat?

    I will reread that section of the book to see if they cooked it or not. However, people going without food for a couple of days do desperate things.

  56. lynn says:

    Actually, people can digest grain whether or not it’s cooked. The issue is the whole wheat part. People who aren’t used to eating a lot of whole wheat generally don’t react well to a sudden change to all that fiber.

    I’ve never tried eating wheat berries that have just been soaked overnight, but I wouldn’t think that would soften them enough. Boiling them down to a mush works, although the resulting gruel is pretty disgusting.

    Uncooked cream of wheat?

    I will reread that section of the book to see if they cooked it or not. However, people going without food for a couple of days do desperate things.

    The wheat berries were boiled over an open fire for 15 minutes before they ate them in the book. The book also went on to say that the leftover wheat berries tasted much better in the morning after soaking all night.

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