09:38 – We have a mixed day scheduled today. We’ll be doing kit stuff as well as making up cookie and bread dough this afternoon.
Email from Brittany. She finished her Walmart ordering, and is now just waiting for the stuff to be delivered. Yesterday afternoon, she and her husband drove his pickup down to the supermarket and picked up a bunch of sugar, flour, egg noodles, salt, vegetable oil, and other bulk staples as well as large jars of spices, several pounds of yeast, and other cooking/baking essentials. Brittany figures that once the stuff from Walmart is delivered, she has at least a 3-month supply of food for her family. She’s pleased that they got this done in one day, although they still have a lot of repackaging to do. They don’t drink much soda, so she ordered a pack of 250 one-gallon foil/Mylar bags and a couple hundred oxygen absorbers from LDS on-line. They’ll use those with an old clothes iron for packing their bulk staples. I told Brittany she doesn’t need to use oxygen absorbers in the sugar bags.
Email from Dave, who posted a comment yesterday that he thought needed to be featured where people can find it:
Prepping doesn’t have to be expensive. For less than $30 at Sam’s Club, I got 75 pounds of rice ready to be transferred to 2 liter bottles. I got some oxygen absorbers from Amazon. Now I just have to wash, sanitize and dry the bottles and then fill them. I picked up a thing of chicken bouillon and beef bouillon. For about $50 we have enough food to eat rice until we’re sick of it. We need other foods, but we’re better off than we were.
I literally started our in car emergency kits with pocket change. I took a big jar half full of change to a Coinstar machine, bought an Amazon gift certificate, and came home and ordered cheap backpacks, flashlights, water purification tablets, multi tools, magnesium fire starters and space blankets.
The current first aid kits that I added to our emergency kits were literally purchased for $20 at the dollar store including the quart zip top bags they are in. I still need to add to them, but we are better off than we were when we had nothing. They’re also much more useful than two $10 first aid kits from Amazon, and possibly better than two $20 first aid kits.
If you’ve only got $5 to prep, pick up a couple of 12 packs of Ramen
noodles at Walmart. That’s a very small start, but it beats sitting at home hungrily staring at a five dollar bill in an emergency.
Just to start is a big thing, and you gotta start somewhere. And just keep it up.
We need to ramp up our food and wotta storage while at the same time improving security on the house itself. That’s one main focus for the rest of this year and the other is my continuing learning/training in several fields, including commo, gardening and firearms.
Overcast again today and looks like more showers. Still in the low 60s.
I agree, get started. Get momentum on your side. Anything is better than nothing (as long as you don’t fool yourself that now you are done.) Even very little steps are steps.
Only 90F and 72%RH at the moment with overcast skies. Supposed to be only 30% chance of rain. We’ll see.
More violence and agitation in our cities overnight, and apparently some starting up in the rest of the world. Some remarkable restraint showed by police. I wonder how long that will last.
nick
Walmart recently started a no minimum order free shipping program, ShippingPass. They have free 30-day trial. So far all the items I regularly order are on the program. The program is $49/year. It would allow those on a budget to be able to buy in smaller quantities and get faster shipping. Order processing is slow, but so far everything has come from Spokane via FedEx and gets here in good condition within the 2-days promised.
Oh, and for the bigger picture– keep an eye on what the OTHER hand is doing.
Troops moving to Baltic states.
Deutsche Bank is failing. “David Folkerts-Landau, the chief economist of Deutsche Bank, has called for a multi-billion dollar bailout for European banks. ” <– like the piggies haven't been sucking up public money for a decade.
Mooslim invasion of europe and the US continues unabated.
Zika and other life changing maladies are being imported AS WE SIT HERE.
Only a matter of time before ebola starts up again. Liberia: Ebola Virus Still Visible Among Male Survivors – Study Reveals "The principal Investigator of the Ebola Nature History Study recorded that the recent outbreak in Guinea which extended to Liberia was due to the persistence of the virus." Present in semen, even after 90 days.
While watching local for your personal safety, you still need to step back and look at global to see what might be coming down the 'pike. Mainly because the global stuff tends to affect MONEY, and that affects us all.
nick
Not like us:
To translate and summarize, the 26yo father of the 9yo boy (ie, 17yo when pregnant) was with his friend , a documented gang member who just got out of prison on parole, when the murderer assassinated the parolee’ and the father and son. But, say interested parties, the DAD wasn’t a gangbanger, he just was good friends with them. And the mom ISN’T covered with gang/prison/street tattoos. And mom ISN’T accompanied by a man with gang paraphernalia (red hat.) And nothing says ‘respect’ like drinking beer in the middle of the day, while wearing pot leaf socks, and your prison style socks and sandals.
Another kid killed for his father’s crimes by souless murderers. This time it’s just ’cause he was there, unlike Chicago where the murdering savages TARGETED the kid.
Why even put this poison into OUR brains? Because these are the people who are going to come for your stuff. These are the people who will be burning your city when SHTF. These are the people who will deny the reality of their own choices, lying with a straight face. These are the kind of people who would lure a child into an alley and KILL him for revenge. These are the kind of people who would kill a kid just because he was there.
Do you think they would hesitate for the slightest moment to kill YOU? They don’t know you, they don’t care about you, and they may in fact hate and blame you for their own problems. ARM UP. Carry. Get training. GET MINDSET. Decide ahead of time what you do if confronted with different scenarios. Think about the legality and morality ahead of time so you can ACT when needed.
They are not like us. Different culture. Different values. Different experiences. Don’t make the mistake of thinking they are just like you.
nick
“While watching local for your personal safety, you still need to step back and look at global to see what might be coming down the ‘pike. Mainly because the global stuff tends to affect MONEY, and that affects us all.”
Couldn’t agree more; and be advised that the Dems are very busy organizing BLM and FSA mob plans to disrupt the Repub convention, where the local LE people say it is already a security nightmare. Do not be fooled by the flashy nooz on the tee-vee and net; this is gonna be a diversionary show while they do something else, probably with financial markets.
“Troops moving to Baltic states.”
Ja, Frau Merkel sent troops to Lithuania and our boy is busy with another thousand in POLAND, while we criticize the Polish gummint for its “undemocratic” policies. I’m sure the Russians are thrilled by all this continued NATO encroachment on their own empire; meanwhile our troops will conduct armor exercises all through eastern Europe; and also continue to bolster Ukrainian rebels against Moscow; is this fucking INSANE or what??? Not enough death and destruction in the Sandbox, that we gotta have another European war???
“Mooslim invasion of europe and the US continues unabated.”
It’s all OK; they come here out of love and they’re all poor, impoverished refugees legitimately fleeing war and persecution. If you don’t believe that, you’re a heartless and evil rayciss. Which is pretty much what wife and daughter believe up here. They see one dead Syrian baby washed ashore or one poor musloid guy being beaten by skinheads in Iowa or someplace and they automatically represent the entire mass. I point out that the pics and vids of the swarms in Europe show a vast majority of angry and sullen young males, and that about one percent of the incoming are Christians, and I get the ignored and the subject changed. Hopeless, until shots are being fired down the block, I guess.
“Do you think they would hesitate for the slightest moment to kill YOU?”
Yes, but ‘splaining this to libs is like unto shoveling sand against the tide. Otherwise,
+ 1,000,000
Like Mr. nick sez, get tooled up and get the training; LOTS of it available FREE online or via books and magazines. You KNOW the cops aren’t gonna get to you in time, even if they WANT to.
And I should make this point, in case anyone has these circumstances: if you have family members and friends who are on board with you on this firearms and defense stuff, group up and go take the training; I’d recommend Max Velocity at the top of the list; his prices are reasonable and you’d just have to finagle the transportation to and from WV. Also, find out what NRA classes you can take locally, probably at your local or regional gun club or range.
http://nrainstructors.org/Search.aspx
http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/
over a hundred degrees with 50%RH. Slow going outdoors today.
“Feels like” 107
yikes
n
Global warming is REAL, I tell ya!
Be careful with that “training”. The Dallas scumbag, sure he was in the military (but given an honorable discharge for sniffing ladies panties), took private high end classes in defensive and offensive shooting. This is stuff that is all over the internet and available in many areas (in my area you can train on the same course used for the SWAT and paramilitary teams in SE WA). These are going to come under more scrutiny and may soon not be a place where you are known.
Trust but verify.
“Trust but verify.”
Absolutely. I’d put Max Velocity and his team, and a couple of other guys, in the high-trust category. But you make a good point; in fact, they’re probably already under some kind of monitoring and scrutiny. In any case, there’s a wide variety out there: I’m looking into the regional NRA classes, plus the Appleseed Project, which are all good places for noobs and varying levels of experience on up.
“Global warming is REAL, I tell ya!”
I read somewhere that some “scientists” were allegedly backing off that now and committing once again to the “global cooling” mantra. Based on up here yesterday and today, I’d go with them. It’s more like late spring or early fall instead of early JULY!
Last winter was very warm in England. “Global warming” was the talk of the town.
This summer has been very cool in England, with May (IIRC) average temperature almost the same as last December’s. Oddly, I’ve heard not a peep about “Hmm, looks like maybe we were wrong about that warming stuff.”
Yes, how odd. Peculiar. Strange. Mystifying. Puzzling. Baffling.
Oh, there’s not a lot of doubt that the climate is gradually warming over the past century. What *is* in doubt is whether humans have been responsible for any of that change and whether or not it would be worthwhile to take action to slow that trend, assuming that is even possible.
Personally, I doubt that humans have been responsible for any of it. We’re just too rare and have such a minuscule effect on the environment that it’s very unlikely that we could cause measurable temperature changes intentionally, let alone unintentionally. I’m firmly in the camp that we shouldn’t do anything about even if we could. A warming climate is good for humanity. The alternative presages an (overdue) ice age, which is about the worst thing imaginable for humanity. The last one almost killed off the species.
When I hear someone flabbering on about carbon dioxide, I tell him or her (usually her) that we should be doing everything we can to increase the planet’s temperature, up to and including spreading carbon black on arctic snow/glacier areas.
There’s also question about how rapid that “gradual” increase is. There’s a huge difference between average surface temperature going up 2degC in two decades and going up 0.1degC in 85 years. That distinction is frequently lost in the shrieking. Sheer oversight, I’m sure.
“flabbering”
Gee, for a minute there I thought RBT was just making up words as he goes along, and this would, of course, be in the grand tradition of the language and some of its greatest writers, like, oh, Shakespeare and Joyce, for instance. But then I looked it up:
“Software description: flabber is a tool which allows you to download movies of video portals like youtube, netlog or zdfmediathek (python).”
And MORE!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flabber
“I tell him or her (usually her) that we should be doing everything we can to increase the planet’s temperature, up to and including spreading carbon black on arctic snow/glacier areas.”
I gotta remember that one. I’ll use it ASAP on two fems who generally drink the warmist Kool-Aid, of course.
“That distinction is frequently lost in the shrieking. Sheer oversight, I’m sure.”
Yeah. Let’s just call it by its original pejorative: Lysenkoism. Phony bullshit “science” to gull the masses and the State. While surprisingly funneling money and power to the latter and the perps who set it up.
When it’s hot it is always ‘climate change’ and when it’s cool, it’s always ‘weather isn’t climate.’
Given the caught red handed emails and all the other problems with the repeated massaging of the data, data destruction, data fabrication, and the simple fact we don’t understand climate (since not one model can start with 1800 and get to today) I call a pox on their house. Can’t trust a word they say.
n
Hell, not one model can get from 1996 to 2016.
And if we try ‘splaining any of this stuff to libs, esp. femlibs, their eyes glaze over, they get impatient with us, and quickly retort with boilerplate agitprop they’ve imbibed with the air they breathe and/or simply blow us off completely.
You see, it’s much, much easier to simply inhale various bromides, aphorisms, alleged conventional wisdom, and PC slogans than to actually have to investigate or study anything or even think about it rationally. And those who do are routinely dismissed and insulted; reality is what we decide it is, period. What, you don’t like MY reality? Well then, I’ll pressure the State to MAKE you like it.
Dad’s opinions:
– Yes, the climate does change, with the seasons, location, and sun spot activity.
– I question the accuracy and specifications of the thermometers used. The changes claimed are within the plus/minus accuracy of NIST specification.
– The temperatures compared today are not taken at the same location or with the same equipment as 10-years ago, or even 5.
– The other day I heard some “climatologist” claim that the “CO2 levels are rising because the warm ocean water is becoming more dense and sinking” (sorry but the scientific fact is that warm water is less dense and rises).
– The earth is a self regulating environment and like all systems tends to equilibrium. So rising temperatures in one area causes a like decrease in temperature in another area to result in an average of essentially no change.
– Our “total” weather is mostly affected by sun spots. How that effect is felt around the globe is affected by the jet streams which are also affected by sun spots.
– Our atmosphere is a self regulating balance of CO2 and O2, unfortunately today’s climatologists do not understand that this balance involves wide swings over centuries and millennia.
So there you have it, my opinion and sorry I am not going to change. The climate changer vainglory is just that, vainglory, and gives “man” too much credit for controlling the climate of the earth. There were extremes of hot and cold long before “man” crawled from the ooze and the extremes will continue to occur long after we have destroyed ourselves back into the ooze (which IMHO we have done several times already).
Sure they can … once the temperature measurements have been adjusted. What are you going to believe, the agency’s official numbers or your lying eyes?
Including the blocks of code explicitly commented as “kludge to make the numbers come out right” or whatever that smoking gun was. That was in the leaked University of East Anglia program from 2009 or 2010. (I should still have a copy of the code somewhere around here; it wasn’t my work* so it didn’t go into my normal backup scheme.)
(* As if I’d claim responsibility for that pile of crap. Not even counting the dishonesty in every other line of code, it was a pile of crap that I’d have been ashamed to put my name on even when I was a college student.)
My favorite is Pournelle’s challenge: give me a formula to determine absorbed and reflected heat over the ocean based on sun position, water current velocity*, and wind velocity. What’s that? No one alive can provide that formula? Huh. It looks like, contra Big Gay Al, the science isn’t quite settled yet.**
* Velocity in the engineering sense – both direction and speed
** OK, I paraphrased Pournelle just a bit
And if we try ‘splaining any of this stuff to libs, esp. femlibs, their eyes glaze over, they get impatient with us, and quickly retort with boilerplate agitprop they’ve imbibed with the air they breathe and/or simply blow us off completely.
Lady that used to ride with me to work (she was doctoral student at UT) was one of those people. I would provide her with print outs that disputed global warming and she would dismiss them as fraud and unscientific without ever reading the paper. He mindset was humans were causing global warming, Greenland never had farms, the Delaware never froze. Given enough liberal crap from her friends at the university I suspect she could be convinced the world is flat.
Hell, not one model can get from 1996 to 2016.
The models cannot even get us from January to February of any given year.
Including the blocks of code explicitly commented as “kludge to make the numbers come out right”
Isn’t that how all climate models work? Take the numbers, adjust a few of them, write some code to massage the numbers, and if the results don’t fit the result you were seeking, change the code to make the numbers give you the answer that you desire. Thus such models are unable to work given numbers and data from a different point in time to move forward to a point in time. None of the models are able to do so without some adjusting of the code.
Thus they are not models, but Excel spreadsheets with underlying offsets to make it work. Guy I work with has done that with some ledgers and journals that did not balance. Got caught and was granted time off without pay for a week. This is the same guy that is up to his eyeballs in debt. Calls every payday with creditors asking for money. One he even told that he could only pay them $29.95 in two weeks when he got paid again. Thus his money skills are not that great yet he gets entrusted with financial data. Sort of like climate scientists that are living on grant money predicated on their results. Thus you fudge the results.
but Excel spreadsheets with underlying offsets to make it work.
You can actually model with Excel, just sayin’. The Climate Ejaculators won’t publish anything because they don’t have valid models. We are in the wrong millenium for accurate weather models. Let’s try the year 3,000.
“Thus his money skills are not that great yet he gets entrusted with financial data. Sort of like climate scientists that are living on grant money predicated on their results.”
Or sort of like a thieving, lying, treasonous war criminal who gets nominated for President and gets in, putative “leader of the free world.”
There is a skool of thought out there that think this would be a good thing, as it will accelerate the coming apocalyptic nightmare and put us all on “death ground,” finally. I don’t, as another civil war here will make the last one look like the teddy bear’s picnic at the beach. Multiply Antietam, the Wilderness, Gettysburg and Andersonville by multiple geometric factors.
Cogent and rational thought on the Dallas atrocity here:
https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/skull-stomping-sacred-cows-sun-tzu-on-dallas-cowardice-and-training/
Don’t gotta run to the sound of the guns, but at least be able to defend and care for your own. I’d probably run to them, for now, but not for much longer; 63 in nine days.
I stopped running to the sound of guns long ago.
Yah, that’s why the only source code we’ve seen has been leaked or stolen. Same goes for the “adjustments” to the raw temperature measurements. Good luck getting the rationale from NOAA and their counterparts.
Er, could you narrow it down a bit? That fits a number of them.
Oh, wait, if you mean for this year’s election, you must mean Hateful Hillary. Bernie is apparently too dumb to be a thief, given that he has not become a millionaire during his “service” in government. He’s probably dumb enough that he believes the nonsense he spouts. Treasonous, maybe, but dimwittedness might spare him from that. As for war criminal, can you picture him in the Army? If they handed him a weapon he’d like as not kill himself with it within a minute. Even if it wasn’t loaded. No, they’d have made him an officer on account of his edoocashun, then send him out with troops. The only way they wouldn’t kill him the first week would be if they’d all laughed themselves into a coma.
I copied this from another site’s comment section. My first post to my blog. Who gives a shit! lol! The title in the post is “blacks are dumb”*. It’s a slog but has references at the end. I don’t know if the guy wrote it or copied it from a scholarly article.
https://zotarm.wordpress.com/
*I’m not a rayciss! I just copied and posted fome other rayciss dude’s shit.
“Bernie is apparently too dumb to be a thief, given that he has not become a millionaire during his “service” in government. He’s probably dumb enough that he believes the nonsense he spouts.”
He’s an old-timey Bolshevik and has been one since he was a kid in Brooklyn. His rep among his own staff and campaign workers is that he’s a real prick to subordinates, has temper tantrums, and wife Jane has had all kinds of financial malfeasance attributed to her tenure as a college prez up here. As for war criminal, you don’t have to be in the military, per se, to be one, obviously. Neither he nor Trump have had a chance to be one yet but they’ve been trying hard. Cankles, OTOH, is a genuine bonafide war criminal, from her time as SecState, and no doubt would triple-down on that as Empress. Or worse.
Let’s see, the last former mil-spec guy we had as Prez was Bush Junior, and he was in the TX ANG and managed somehow to avoid the SEA capers. Prior to that it was his dad, in the Good War. All kinds of info on that stuff in Stone’s book on their crime family, and it’s a doozy, but most cuckservatives and Repubs don’t wanna hear it, just like they still worship that friggin’ Hollywood dolt Ronnie Reagan.
I’ll be writing in Pat Buchanan again; fired by MSNBC; fired by National Review and given a character assassination on their cover; and absolutely hated by the Left. For VP I’ll put down his sister, Angela. Other than that, I’m all over the highway department garage here, the salt shed, and the get-ugly-shit-off-your-property ordinance.
Voting in favor, I take it, in order to force the eviction of the wallyhogs near you.
Unfortunately, that won’t do it for my two wallyhog fems on either side. Their stepdad and mom keep their yards and exteriors pristine for them; I’ve actually seen the stepdad mowing, raking, and scooping up dog poop (they have five dogs) from their back yard while one of the pigs lounges there on a swing, smoking ciggies and consulting her pixels.
No, our public nuisance/health hazards are not in the village proper here; they’re not far, though, and very messy and ugly. Truck trailer bodies, car wrecks, piles of rubbish, junk and trash, and probably rats and snakes going after the rats. And the two worst violators are within yards of the lake shore, too. Typical Vermont; trailer trash scumbags live next door to McMansions and lake cottages. And usually the former have the best views, too.
-ahem- The implication was that the wallyhogs were the ugly shit.
The crucial thing with prepping is to do something. A common first thing to store is flour or whole wheat. I’ve been unable to make up my mind about storing flour or wheat. I have finally decided to buy cans of flour from the local LDS Home Storage Center. Since I couldn’t make up my mind for some time, I decided to go ahead and store rice, which makes sense from several perspectives. We use more rice and it’s easier to store in two liter bottles. We can have cooked rice in half an hour by just boiling water.
We could make gruel with flour in the same amount of time, but we have never eaten gruel, and the closest I have ever come was cream of wheat, and that was over forty years ago.
So Bob said he’s looking for an oxygen concentrator. The irony here is that I know where an oxygen concentrator and a bunch of tanks are sitting, and I’m trying to get the company that owns them to come over and pick them up.
“The implication was that the wallyhogs were the ugly shit.”
Hey, I’m slow and I’m old. Have some respect for yer elders. I can generally hear one of ’em coughing her lungs out late into the night when she’s out on her deck chain-smoking cancer sticks. So she won’t last long. Ditto the other one but she’s further away on the other side.
“The crucial thing with prepping is to do something.”
And soon you’ll find all kinds of chit can count as “prepping.” Also see:
http://www.backdoorsurvival.com/20-items-to-kick-start-your-food-storage-plan/
I’ll be hitting some of the stuff on that list when we get paid again, after the bills and taxes, of course….
From lewrockwell.com today:
“How Fortunate for Hillary Clinton . . .
Thomas DiLorenzo
. . . that the Dallas shootings took her FBI-excused corruption and criminality off the front pages and allowed her to pontificate about the need to nationalize the local police instead.”
No kidding. Makes ya wonder after decades of watching the Klinton crime family; they stop at NOTHING.
@dave,
instead of wheat paste gruel (which kind of suggests to me a childhood involving boarding school somewhere in the british isles) look at recipes for tortillas (very simple) and other unleavened breads. Pastas are very simple too, although I haven’t personally made any yet. (I did get a pasta roller machine, so I can call my experiments gourmet cooking when I get time to try them. Tortilla on the other hand is tasty, versatile, and easy.)
My vote is store flour. The only reason to store wheat is that it lasts longer. It needs grinding though which is yet another thing to acquire, learn to use, and store, along with maintenance parts. Flour is cheap and plentiful. Accept that you will be disposing of some at intervals, and replenishing. Still cheaper than a grinder, available at your grocery store, and you can store literal tons if you decide to.
nick
@dave,
definitely store rice, as well as flour, esp if you actually eat rice. Again, it’s cheap, easily available, and stores well. Don’t store brown rice as it spoils sooner, at least that’s what everyone advises. Adjust your proportion of rice to flour to reflect your actual or expected usage.
I store some of the ready to eat rice cups and pouches too. They are my “intermediate” storage food. That is, they are food we eat during the normal times as convenience but not a lot, and they are good shelf stable, low energy (to prepare) food. We use them when we are in a hurry, tired, or late, and they are there for the short disaster, when we don’t want to use a lot of fuel cooking. Quick rice fills the same sort of spot, so I store some of that too. It’s cheaper than the pouches, but more than bulk bags.
There’s room for different types and styles in your prepping plan. I’ve got fresh meat in the fridge, frozen meat in the freezer, shelf stable meat in pouches, canned meat on the shelf, and freeze dried meat in prepared FD meals. All meat, different uses, different storage, different time horizons.
In long term, lowered calorie, food insecure times, I look to traditional (ie. poor) cultures for guidance. Hispanic peasants eat a lot of beans and tortilla with some added meat. Asian peasants eat a lot of rice with protein added, and congee (porridge.) Indian peasants eat a lot of rice, and stuff made from chickpeas with a bit of protein added. Hillbillies ate a lot of beans and cornbread. Creole cooking is heavy on beans and rice with flavoring added.
If we see a long term depression, or slow collapse, or even sudden collapse (as I assume it must appear to Venezuelans) buckets of rice and beans will stretch whatever else you have hopefully long enough to get thru, or to get some food in the ground.
nick
Oh, and the mantra is “store what you eat, eat what you store”… I personally am not so good at that. We eat much more canned and pouched foods since I started storing them but I just accept that I will have spoilage and waste in my stored food. If I pay attention, it can be donated to a food bank, or I can keep it well past it’s sell by date (which I do routinely.) Considering the poor storage conditions at my house (hot garage) I’m surprised by how little wastage I’ve had.
I think I’ve shared before, but if not, here’s how I approached food storage.
Some needed background: I started prepping for a specific event– Y2K causing social disruption or an excuse for terror attacks. Since I lived in CA, those preps morphed into my “earthquake kit”, then after a move to the Gulf Coast, it became my “hurricane kit.” My focus was on a regional disaster of limited duration, and local effect (aid could come from outside the region but would be delayed in arriving.) As such I had NO bulk long term storage of staples. Ebola and RBTs prompting, as well as the deteriorating world political and economic climate convinced me I needed to up my food storage significantly. This is when I added “significant and prolonged economic downturn” and “global collapse” to my prepping scenarios.
Back to food. In all my preps I strive for ‘defense in depth’ and redundancy. Food is no different. I think of my food in tiers.
First is my pantry. This is the food in the kitchen. Stuff we eat every day, and cooking supplies. Fresh vegetables and meat in the fridge, fresh fruit, and some canned sides and seasonings. Before the kids, we ate mostly home cooked meals, made from primary ingredients. We eat more prepared foods, and convenience foods now, and fewer ‘made from scratch’ meals.
Second tier is my “store”. This is the area just inside my garage (steps from my kitchen by going out the back door) where I keep a “store” for items we use up on a regular basis. They are on shelves and can easily be seen and grabbed to take into the kitchen and restock the pantry. My freezer and second fridge are here. The shelves hold 3-6 months usage of stuff like condiments, peanut butter and jelly, snacks for the kids lunches, ziplok bags, some cleaning stuff. It’s meant to be the first place to go when something in the kitchen that we use all the time runs out, instead of running to the store, and so also has rice cups, crock pot sauces, peanut oil, bottled drinks and juice boxes, etc. The fridge holds eggs, milk, cream, beer, wine, soda, cheese in many forms, and fresh meat if it won’t fit in the kitchen or is waiting for me to repack and freeze it. The small freezer in the fridge holds microwaveable meals, bread, pizza, mostly convenience foods. The modestly sized chest freezer holds meat mainly, much of it bought in bulk then repacked and vac sealed. Sometimes there is bread, usually some Costco heat and eat convenience food, and a couple gallons of frozen liquid eggs. Bulk protein.
The third tier, and area, is some relatively recent shelving. It holds my backups for the “store” area, bulk cleaners, my serious canned goods, sauces, seasonings, oils, etc. I consider this my longer term area as it has stuff we don’t normally eat much of (canned veg, meat, and beans) but will be needed if we get to that point. I do pull from this area directly when I make something with pouch meat, canned ham, or I need a quick side dish. Ideally everything in this area has a 2 year or longer shelf life. I have some of it organized on cardboard flats in 30day groupings. One flat has 30 cans of meat. One has 30 cans of veg or starch. The two flats together are minimal meals for our family for 30 days. I can see at a glance how many days I can get with just those 30 day flats. I’ve also got my Mountain House freeze dried meals in this area. I have them in boxes of so many people for so many days. Ie, each box has breakfast, lunch, snack, drink flavors, and dinner for x people for x days. I can grab the boxes if we have to leave in a hurry and know I’ve just got to add water and heat. They are light and compact.
The last tier is bulk staples. These are not something I use or access ever. I just put them in buckets or bins, and hope I never get that hungry. Flour, rice (couple varieties), salt, sugar, oil, powered milk, and some coffee in big tins. If things really go south, I expect this to extend the other tiers of stored food, and/or to provide charity or assistance if prudent. If I buy some long term storage freeze drieds, this is where they will go.
Finally, the TV coverage of the tornadoes in OK a year or so ago convinced me of the need to have backups OFFSITE. So I have a lot more bulk, cans, water, fuel, stoves, pots and pans, and other supplies stored elsewhere. That was a bit of a ‘panic buy’ and is far less organized. I expect a bunch of spoilage in that offsite storage, although I’m trying to rotate some of it home. Like I said before, I expect spoilage and waste in my long term storage food. We just don’t eat those things in our everyday lives, and my storage conditions are less than ideal. I can live with it. Can’t live without it 🙂
nick
The planet has been warming since the last ice age. In 1814 the Thames froze so hard that people held “Frost Fairs” on the ice. My grandmother would tell me that when she was a girl, around 1910, the Missouri river would regularly freeze hard enough to support wagons crossing. But no matter the yelling, it’s clear that CO2 is not the driver and looks to follow not precede the warming.
Blacks Need to Migrate to Five Southern States, Form ‘Country Within a Country’
We just need to start migrating back to those states and taking control of the economics in those states. If black people move in, most definitely white people will move out.
What we are saying right now is we want to control the economics in our community. We want to control the politics in our community. And we most definitely want to control the education. What our people are learning in what we call the public fool system, not school system, where they are teaching and misrepresenting the true history of the black man here in the United States.
Sounds like a plan. Actually, seriously, what better solution? There will be no reason to claim discrimination or racial bias, if the blacks control the economics, politics and education.
Secession is an excellent idea anyway, for the US, probably the only peaceful way to get rid of the current political elite (they can keep D.C.). If you can solve the racial issues at the same time, why not?
The states they want to claim, by the way: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama and Georgia. Bit rough on the white folks living there, they’ll likely want to move.
@nick,
Thanks for the suggestions. I’m going to add flour to my storage foods. My plan is to make it to the local LDS Home Storage Center and pick up some cans. Given Bob’s comments about it being more difficult to store flour in two liter bottles, I’m going to skip that idea. Lisa Bedford’s comments about mites in the flour also concerned me with regard to packaging my own.
“The states they want to claim, by the way: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama and Georgia. Bit rough on the white folks living there, they’ll likely want to move.”
Yeah, I expect North Carolina would be flooded with white refugees. Which is fine, if that’s what it comes to. Of course, we’d quickly end up with a third-world country on our southern border.
Didn’t they try that once before? Does Liberia ring a bell with anyone?
“Thanks for the suggestions. I’m going to add flour to my storage foods. My plan is to make it to the local LDS Home Storage Center and pick up some cans. Given Bob’s comments about it being more difficult to store flour in two liter bottles, I’m going to skip that idea. Lisa Bedford’s comments about mites in the flour also concerned me with regard to packaging my own.”
Great. I have four 24-pound cases of LDS HSC flour in the closet. At $3 per #10 can, that’s only $72 worth, about $48 of which is the cost of the cans. (Flour runs about $12.50 per 50-pound bag at Costco.)
I’m debating about adding another six or eight cases of flour from the LDS HSC. I gave up trying to use soda bottles–it takes forever to get the flour into the bottles and packed tightly–so the alternative will be using the one-gallon foil/Mylar bags that LDS on-line sells. That’ll cost about $0.40 per one-gallon bag plus another $0.10 or so for an oxygen absorber. A one-gallon bag holds about 6+ pounds, versus the 4 pounds in the LDS #10 cans, so the packaging cost is about $0.50 per six pounds of flour self-packaged versus about $2.50 per six pounds for the #10 cans. LDS rates shelf-life of their flour at 10 years, which is extremely conservative. I doubt you’d be able to tell any difference after 20 years. The same is true for the foil/Mylar bags, so that’s a wash.
I’m not trying to discourage you from getting the LDS HSC canned flour. If I were you, I’d pick up several cases each of the flour, macaroni, spaghetti, sugar, beans, oats, etc. With some salt and vegetable oil, that’d be a very good start at a pretty reasonable price.
Don’t worry too much about bugs in your bulk staples. An oxygen absorber (or using dry ice) solves that problem. Bugs and their eggs can no more live without oxygen than we can.
Actually, seriously, what better solution?
With the money we are sending other third world countries we would wind up supporting a cesspool of crime ridden slums by sending them lots of money for absolutely zero in return.
The states they want to claim, by the way: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama and Georgia
So I would wind up living next to a third world country. TN would have to seriously consider building a wall and split Chattanooga across the middle. OK, racist joke. What do you call black people in the split Chattanooga? Chattaniggers. You heard it here first folks.
And for the record I have nothing against black people who are productive, intelligent or hard working, that are trying to raise a family and have a decent life. I don’t like the shiftless scum with the prison tattoos who leach off of society and speak like a moron.
No, that selection of states for the third-world-shithole-to-be won’t work. Not unless you want to give the shithole control of the Mississippi River and all its traffic.
I’d say, set aside Washington DC, Baltimore, and the southern part of Maryland on the west side of the Chesapeake Bay. That’s plenty of room for 10-20M residents — the majority of the most racist black separatists live in tightly-packed urban centers like DC and Chicago, so they obviously like having their neighbors close by. There’s essentially no way for the economy to run, but that’s fine. The majority of the activists seem to think all wealth comes from the government, so they can form their own government and just create whatever wealth they need. It’s an all-around Win situation.
Any separate Afrikan-Murkan enclave, whether urban or a group of states or parts of states, is very likely to end up like Liberia, as Mr. JimL referenced, or Uganda, or Rwanda-Burundi or the Congo. Maybe not at first, and it might take longer than it took for those former European colonies, because they’ll have more up-to-date technology, but eventually they’ll deteriorate likewise.
We’d have to be Stalin- or Hitler-level RUTHLESS in moving around ethnic and racial populations like pieces on a chess board and I seriously doubt the rulers or the masses have the the political will to do that. And those populations will not go quietly, either; this would be a gigantic social, political and economic upheaval. Nevertheless it becomes clearer all the time that it’s increasingly difficult to live together in harmony anymore, if that was ever the case at all.
Dad’s opinion WRT blacks creating their own states and more:
Anyone else who was around before the great black liberation and desegregation of the 1960s notice that there is more segregation today? Think carefully before you respond. Be honest.
Another thought about a key word, assimilation. Our race problems today correlate directly to our problem with the immigrants. The blacks and the immigrants are not and have no desire to assimilate into the “American Dream”. They all want to live in the old tribal/clan/gang* structure. There is no aspiration to work and better one’s self. They have all been told that they are victims and owed everything for free.
Looks at the state that South Africa is in now that blacks have been allowed to be “equal” (actually more than equal which is what they want here).
The link that @MrAtoz provided earlier (https://zotarm.wordpress.com/) gives one pause to think. It just might have some basis.
The admonition at the end of Jerry Pournelle’s the View from Chaos Manner is more important than ever:
“Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.
As well a Michael Savage’s (http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/) key to how to make America great again (he said it before Trump):
Borders — Language — Culture
Edit: Final thought, when the blacks get their own states we are going to need another wall.
*Edit: added “gang”
It seems to me that we did NOT have this level of racial strife under Reagan, Bush41, Clinton, or Bush43. Only since our first black president have we had this kind of divisiveness. I cannot think of one thing he’s done since taking office that has done anything to reduce racial strife. Plenty to stir the pudding.
Is there anything he could do differently to heal the wounds? Sure there is. But he just won’t. For this, I cannot respect the man.
“We’d have to be Stalin- or Hitler-level RUTHLESS in moving around ethnic and racial populations like pieces on a chess board”
Who says it’d have to be forced? FSA/underclass types already flock to cities/states with big government and lots of welfare. And non-FSA/underclass types already flee areas like the former.
“Who says it’d have to be forced? FSA/underclass types already flock to cities/states with big government and lots of welfare. And non-FSA/underclass types already flee areas like the former.”
True, for the past half-century. But the big gummint handouts and welfare windfalls would stop; then what? Unless, of course, our rulers continue shoveling out hundreds of billions in what are essentially bribes to keep them in their separate enclaves/ghettos.
“Anyone else who was around before the great black liberation and desegregation of the 1960s notice that there is more segregation today? Think carefully before you respond. Be honest.”
Oh sure. And it’s been mostly voluntary. As Fred Reed has said, most Afrikan-Murkan and white people don’t much like each other and prefer to live and work apart. They’ll certainly be civil and polite enough with each other when thrown together, but given the option, they’d segregate themselves. Like likes Like. And naturally there are chit-tons of anecdotal stories which tell us how wunnerful THEIR history with the other race has been and they’ve ALWAYS got along with the Other and had Other friends.
Again, peeps of the same group tend to stick together, and don’t even have to BE different races, although that makes it harder to stick. Look at the former Yugoslavia or Ireland; it’s DEUCED hard, as it is in the Sandbox, to tell the combatants APART.
Only since our first black president have we had this kind of divisiveness.
I’d like to point out that our first Black President is half White but chose to call himself Black. Probably due to his Mooslim background, doobie smoking, and community communism activism. A true loser.
“I’d like to point out that our first Black President is half White but chose to call himself Black.”
To be fair, which is more than he or other elites care about, our history has been that if even one drop of Afrikan blood was in a person, he or she was de facto black; people who look whiter than me were routinely bought and sold in slave markets. And I’m about as white as a person can get, except for that little quarter-pint or so of Algonqian.
Needless to say, that was not likely one of his considerations as he grew to adulthood from a childhood where he and his family thought of him as black. Once off to college and community activism and law skool, it was a decided advantage and has paid off handsomely since.
And rather than try to heal and encourage harmony, his SOP has been to divide and exacerbate racial, ethnic and religious tensions, and this is right out of the communist and musloid playbooks.
What is particularly striking are the renewed calls for segregation – from the blacks! That is just beyond stupid. First, because segregation is what their ancestors fought to get rid of. And second, because the ones calling for segregations are flat-out admitting that they cannot compete with anyone else. N.b. the blacks who are competent, and can complete, are not the ones calling for these protected enclaves.
I will just quietly dream of a color-blind society. I mean, no one worries about discrimination against people with blue eyes, or red hair. There’s no reason there should be any more worry about the color of your skin. I’ll just retreat to my little, idealistic fantasy world now…
Well, the population up here is about 1.5% black, but AFAIK all of them are normal, functioning parts of society. One of them, James Brian, lives just down the road from us. He rang our doorbell not long after we moved in and asked if we’d like to hire him to mow our (1.5 acre) lawn. Barbara hired him on the spot and we’ve since met his wife Jackie. They’re both delightful people, about our age, and have been married longer than we have. Their families have lived in Sparta for more than 200 years. I’m happy to have them and anyone like them as neighbors. If/when the SHTF, I don’t doubt that we’ll be helping them however we can and vice versa. Same with our other neighbors, who happen to be white.
TX residents, and I know we have a few might like to check this state sitrep out daily
http://txdps.state.tx.us/dem/sitrep/default.aspx
It’s mainly weather and wildfire focused, but the training listings, and big event listings are interesting.
nick
It’s not just blacks that are calling for a return to segregation, it’s all manner of social justice warriors.
There’s a tempest in a teapot in the science fiction and fantasy fields involving the SJWs and the return of ‘conservatives’ to scifi. They are calling for ‘safe spaces’ at conventions, talking about the trauma of hearing opposing ideas, and want racially segregated lounges.
The same is happening on college campuses around the country.
It’s nuts, but I’m willing to accommodate them, if it’s the last time…..
nick
In reading the comments after my last post above I am going to restate the assimilation word again.
Sure like likes like. But is it really skin color? May be a prejudgement on the surface, but start a conversation. What do you get? Ghetto? That person now has 2-strikes against them and will surely soon present a third and fourth. What is the family ethic? You won’t find any blacks (or whites, hispanics, and so on) where there is a married mom and dad, with close contacts with their extended family that has the same moral character, and lives in a long standing monogamous relationship (pay careful attention that I am not qualifying the gender relationship) who are the problems.
Assimilation, understand the importance of that word. It does not mean a person should not be proud of their heritage. But your heritage is no better than mine.
The “black lives matter” organization is just another fascist racist concoction that goes against the values of all moral and just peoples.
I am not a perfect being and not a deity that can bestow forgiveness. I will not tolerate the intolerant nor will I tolerate those who claim to be better. So wait @Dad, you are saying you will do just what these outliers are doing. No, I am not and if you cannot tell the difference then you will continue to foster the victim mentality with the false hope of salvation through gooberment rather than through the morally directed efforts of your labor.
I am not a perfect being and not a deity that can bestow forgiveness.
I believe Mr. SteveF is. Many blessings upon him.
I can bestow forgiveness.
I won’t.
That’s just the way I roll.
Almost agreed. I’d argue that it’s not fascism so much as socialism, considering the number of calls for the government to provide jobs. The racism has morphed into calls for a new nation.
In other words, the Black Lives Matter people are national socialists.
” More broadly, the Left has gained enormous prestige and power from the narrative that emerged from the civil rights battles of the 1960s, and it is in no hurry to disabuse anyone of the fear that Bull Connor is just waiting to loose his German shepherds in Selma. By contrast, the victims of the sort of anti-white racism displayed by Micah Johnson are largely invisible and powerless. No one with power in America cares about or identifies with victims of inner city crime, much less with the whites too poor to move away from inner city crime, and victims of such crime are in fact carefully watched to make sure that any outrage they express is carefully modulated. Today, there is a lot of public grief over Dallas, but by the time Americans vote in November, the powers that be will have done their best to make us forget that a black racist murdered five innocent policemen in Dallas and refocus our attention on the supposedly intractable problem of white racism.”
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/all-lives-matter/
Do LDS #10 cans of flour, etc have oxygen absorbers in them already ?
https://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product3_715839595_10557_3074457345616706370_-1__3074457345616897723
Yes.