08:55 – Amazon is having its big sale today. I just took a quick look and didn’t see anything I wanted that was on sale.
Like almost everyone, I was aware of the San Andreas fault and its potential to produce a devastating earthquake. I also knew about the New Madrid fault. What I didn’t know about was the Cascadia fault, which seismologists believe is likely to produce a truly devastating quake and tsunami in the relatively near future.
Seismologists estimate the probability of an 8.0 to 8.6 Cascadia earthquake occurring within 50 years as about 0.33 and a huge one (8.7 to 9.2) as about 0.1. Of course, that means it may be happening as I write this, or it may not happen for another thousand years or more. But a 0.33 probability of even an 8.0 quake occurring within the next 50 years should be cause for great concern. Even one on the low end of that range would kill tens of thousands of people. A 9.2 quake could easily kill millions, both directly and from the follow-on effects.
“On the coast, those numbers go up. Whoever chooses or has no choice but to stay there will spend three to six months without electricity, one to three years without drinking water and sewage systems, and three or more years without hospitals. Those estimates do not apply to the tsunami-inundation zone, which will remain all but uninhabitable for years.”
If I were on the Pacific coast, I’d certainly make relocation a high priority, and potential earthquakes are only part of the reason. Interestingly, if I were in that situation, the North Carolina mountains would be high on my list of potential relocation sites, not far behind the Montana/Alberta border area.
Best thing that could happen to the Left Coast would be for the Western halves of CA, OR, and WA to slide in the ocean. And I hope that would raise the ocean levels enough to wipe out the East Coast, with emphasis on DC. However we would need to have strategically placed snipers to take care of the fleeing Socialists.
If I were on the Pacific coast, I’d certainly make relocation a high priority
If I lived in California, I’d certainly make relocation a high priority
Fixed it for you.
No, I include California in “Pacific coast”, but I’d also make relocation a high priority if I lived in Oregon or Washington, or British Columbia for that matter.
And Alaska also. They’re particularly vulnerable because they have few highways, so an earthquake/tsunami that devastated their ports would have effects far into the interior.
The big Amazon Prime sale is a joke. The good stuff is being snatched in nano-seconds. Just tried to get 2 items; a Raspberry Pi Ultimate Kit and a CyperPower pure Sinewave UPS. On both when the item changed to “Add to Cart” I was immediately told 100% claimed and on Waitlist (#221 on the Raspberry Pi). Bots?
You cannot trust what you see on the “Upcoming Prime Deals” as Amazon is sneaking in new items all the time. Been also following Kinja Deals Twitter Feed but most items that they post are sold out by the time the Tweet gets out.
Regarding relocation: By my observation, most of the White Liberals/Socilaists who can have already left California and moved to Portland and Seattle. That is why at least those two cities need to go too.
New York City is in an earthquake zone, but most of the buildings are NOT built to seismic standards.
Alaska may be more vulnerable but the people there are also tougher and used to privation. There are also a lot fewer high density regions or high rise buildings.
nick
Yeah, but NYC is at low risk of a severe quake compared to the west coast (ring of fire) or even New Madrid.
Alaskans are tough. I know quite a few of them. But they’re also extraordinarily dependent on imported goods, including food. They’re even worse off than big cities in the NE part of the country. If an earthquake/tsunami destroyed their ports, they’d be dependent on their pathetic highway network.
A year or so ago, I shipped a science kit to an address in Alaska. I was surprised that USPS took four days to deliver it. Then I looked at Google Maps. The customer lived something like 100 miles from the nearest village shown on GM. I emailed her to apologize for the delay (I’d told her three days and it took four). She was amused. So was I when she explained that the kit had been delivered via bush plane.
RE: Amazon’s Prime Sale
I’ve had like 10 items in my Amazon cart for the last few weeks that I just haven’t pulled the trigger on yet. So, with the Prime sale I decided to see if any of them dropped in price. Of the 10 items in my cart 6 have remained the same and 4 have actually gone up in price a little bit. :/
RE: Earthquakes:
We even get earthquakes here in Nebraska. Largest recent quake was a 5.1 in 1964. We’re on the Humboldt Fault and Nemaha Fault Zone. I’ve experienced quakes (that I could actually feel) in Oklahoma and San Antonio. Funny enough, I lived in California for 4 years and never felt so much as a tremor.
I cannot think of s ingle reason to live on the West Coast. Between the politics, water shortages, power shortages, population density, and seismic activity it’s just not worth it.
Yeah when the big one hits where ya gonna git yer artichokes and asperagus?
We’ve had a couple of very minor quakes here over the years, with the epicenters north of us in Quebec; strong enough to be felt for a couple of seconds and slightly rattle stuff but that was it. Our main threats are power outages due to ice storms and blizzards, followed by B&E’s from local yokel goblins, maybe eventually home invasions. Thus our preps tend to have those as a focus; heat, water, lights, food and commo on the one hand, and home/personal defense on the other.
On the alternative pump issue for our well I think we’re gonna go with the FloJak, and soon, probably early fall, when we also order another several cords of firewood and I have more firewood racks assembled out back. We could probably use more lanterns and lamps and lamp oil, wicks, matches, etc, and of course FLASHLIGHTS! Plus BATTERIES! And I just renewed our Costco membership, so I’ll be making a short trip down there tomorrow or Friday for canned goods, etc. I’m behind on programming two Baofengs, the scanners, setting up antennas, building three QRP 20-, 40-, and 80-meter mini-radios, and I’ve got half a dozen Raspberry PIs to do various projects with, probably a cold-weather deal inside the house when that comes back.
Not enough hours in the day.
Which right now is pahtly sunny with a light breeze, very nice.
artichokes are nasty, and asparagus grows just about anywhere, even along railroad tracks in the midWest….
One serious issue with losing Cali, or just the waterfront, is that we have an enormous amount of .mil along there that we would lose access to and use of.
San Diego alone has subs, a SEAL team and a good chunk of their training facilities, the underwater surveillance network for the whole pacific, training and intake facilities, the LCACs, MCB Pendleton (and Command and Control for the First Marine Expeditionary Force, ie all of the Pacific to japan), MCAS Miramar, NAS North Island, a ton of secret stuff, and SPAWAR.
Add the Port of LA, Port of Long Beach, ports in WA and OR, all the .mil in LA and SF, the refineries and aerospace in LA, and all the biotech in San Diego and you get a world of hurt for the rest of us.
YES, Cali, OR, and WA are socialist cess pits. Yes, SoCal is a desert that currently FAR exceeds its carrying capacity, but unless we want to go back to the mid 1800’s, we need them.
nick
Again, it’s the people who are the problem, whether East or Left coasts; we need to get scientists working on a selective killer virus that attacks anyone to the left of…me?
You just can’t make this stuff up.
A woman reportedly told police she was counterfeiting money because she read online that President Barack Obama created a new law stating that people can start printing their own money.
She’s just getting a head start on the Fed.
I can make specific recommendations, if you’re interested. 😉
I have a bunch of stuff on order to test. A 3-pack of Feit Electric 500-lumen 3C flashlights are to arrive today. They cost $48 including tax for the 3-pack, and I suspect they’re very well built. The reviews on Costco are certainly glowing. I also have various 3.7V lithium ion batteries on order, everything from name-brand to cheap Chinese Ultrafire ones, as well as a bunch of different NiMH AA and AAA cells. I’ve pretty much decided to buy only the LSD NiMH cells. They typically have lower capacity than the non-LSD models and can be recharged only maybe half the number of times before they fail, but those are pretty minor issues compared to the self-discharging behavior of standard NiMH cells.
Your weather report makes me think about a phone call I had with a friend who’d moved out to California right after college. I asked him how it was out there, to which he replied, “Gorgeous. Sunny and mild with a chance of catastrophic earthquakes.”
I don’t think it matters what we want. As they say, climate is what you expect, weather is what you get. What they’re going to get, sooner or later, is a catastrophe, if not a series of catastrophes. The water problem isn’t going away. It’s going to get much worse. What no one in authority seems to understand is that the West in general and California in particular have been in an extraordinarily wet period ever since the first white men arrived. What they’re seeing now isn’t a drought. It’s still wetter than the historical average. But the real drought is coming, it’s coming soon, and it’s going to be very, very bad news for those states. We’re just now seeing the first minor signs that the area is drying up again.
and of course FLASHLIGHTS! Plus BATTERIES!
That sounds like a mocking tone, Sir.
A Man can never have too many flashlights or lithium batteries.
Trump 2016! “A Fenix In Every BOB! ™ “
I’ve said this before, and I know people think I’m kidding, but there is some evidence that left-wing views are the result of a viral infection, possibly carried by house cats.
I also have various 3.7V lithium ion batteries on order, everything from name-brand to cheap Chinese Ultrafire ones, as well as a bunch of different NiMH AA and AAA cells.
Any Eneloop’s in there?
Yep, I already had some Eneloops of various generations. The bulk of the rechargeables I have now are AmazonBasics high-capacity AA and AAA. These are the black ones, made in Japan. I believe they’re actually Eneloop XX models, manufactured by Sanyo.
“Facebook’s new chief security officer wants to set a date to kill Flash”
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/13/8948459/adobe-flash-insecure-says-facebook-cso
Can I watch?
moonbattery brought on by excessive house cattery…..
As we now have pretty good evidence that the cat virus does indeed have deleterious effects on humans, and we now understand that at least some ulcers are caused by infection, I have a feeling that once people really start looking, a whole bunch of other things will also be found to be caused or exacerbated by infection.
There is some evidence of various cancers caused or enabled by infection (Gardasil) and I’m sure we’ll find more.
You won’t find it if you aren’t looking.
nick
There are certainly panics and manias that sweep thru populations. I think the current mania for jailing female teachers who have sex with their adolescent students will be seen in the same light as the satanic cult nonsense, or reaching way back, the Salem witch trials.
I’m not the only one who saw the behavior of the left as pathological, witness ‘Bush derangement syndrome.’ If the idea didn’t resonate with observers, it wouldn’t have become a meme….
It’s not at all certain that it’s the same virus, nor even that cats specifically are the vector, nor even that such a virus exists. But there is some evidence, and it won’t surprise me if it turns out to be the case.
As far as I’m concerned the best thing to do would be to shoot every cat we see and then dispose of it as a biohazard. I might make exception for barn cats because they don’t usually come into close contact with people. Come to think of it, that may be one reason that farmers tend conservative. I don’t think I’ve ever known a farmer who had a cat as a pet as opposed to a working cat.
“I can make specific recommendations, if you’re interested.”
Ordinarily I would be, except that your recommendations may conflict with those of others here and the ensuing “discussion” would tend to make my head explode. At which time I’d be likely to retaliate by inflicting more tedious explications of medieval epic poetry.
“But the real drought is coming, it’s coming soon, and it’s going to be very, very bad news for those states. We’re just now seeing the first minor signs that the area is drying up again.”
I knew this, and mentioned it, nevertheless the siren call of career and money sent our son, DIL and grandkids out to the East Bay last month. From pictures of the place, it already looks like a frigging desert.
“That sounds like a mocking tone, Sir.”
Mock? Me? Perish the thought, Sir.
“A Man can never have too many flashlights or lithium batteries.”
We live in a nearly 200-year-old house; we’re going super-retro, with candles and lanterns and oil lamps.
“…there is some evidence that left-wing views are the result of a viral infection, possibly carried by house cats.”
We have three house cats, and my views are increasingly right-wing, as are Mrs. OFD’s, thanks to my pernicious influence.
“I’m not the only one who saw the behavior of the left as pathological, witness ‘Bush derangement syndrome.’ ”
And so it is. The cognitive dissonance that arises when they try to keep mutually contradictory notions in their heads and then inflict them on the rest of us. Wackos. Akin to the sickness which grips all the hadjis. House cats got nuthin’ to do with any of it. It’s a thought process of obsessive power/control relationships and death. Slavery and death, in other words.
This could be the proverbial straw:
http://www.vocativ.com/news/211232/sailors-blame-michelle-obama-for-navys-fried-food-ban/
BTW, we have 8 inside only cats and support a small feral colony that we keep as many as we can TNR’d (trapped, neutered, returned), sometimes takes many months to get the more feral ones.
If it were not for my cats keeping me relatively calm I would be one raving crotchety old man.
And a few of my favorite cat quotes from: http://www.catsinfo.com/catquotes.html
“A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime.”
~~~Mark Twain Notebook, 1895
“Of all God’s creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the leash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.”
~~~Mark Twain Notebook, 1894
And my favorite:
“God made the cat in order that humankind might have the pleasure of caressing the tiger.”
~~~Fernand Mery
I’d stick with Streamlight, Fenix, and other name brands that take CR123 batteries, or at least 3.7V lithium ion batteries.
Okay, so why is my last comment being called SPAM and uneditable?
Here it is again:
This could be the proverbial straw:
http://www.vocativ.com/news/211232/sailors-blame-michelle-obama-for-navys-fried-food-ban/
I’ve never been in the military. Would the Navy have any restrictions on firing a cruise missile at the White House?
I just noticed that a cat was looking at me when I wrote that last response to OFD.
And for OFD:
A few of my favorite cat quotes from: http://www.catsinfo.com/catquotes.html
“A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime.”
~~~Mark Twain Notebook, 1895
“Of all God’s creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the leash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.”
~~~Mark Twain Notebook, 1894
And my favorite:
“God made the cat in order that humankind might have the pleasure of caressing the tiger.”
~~~Fernand Mery
Your comment on fried food showed up normally here. I didn’t have to approve it, and it’s not in my spam folder. I’m not sure what’s going on, but I think the problem may be local to you.
Okay, there were two other comments from you in the spam folder. They actually did look spammy, so I understand why WordPress canned them. I went in and approved them manually.
Re: Navy and cruise missile: I don’t know about today, but all the Submarine Captains I served under were dyed-in-the-wool Constitutionalists and would do what was necessary to keep the Oath we all took.
Re: Cats: We have 8 indoor cats, without them I would be one surly crotchety old man.
Thanks RBT. I guess I may have doing too many consecutive edits. My apologies to all.
Anyone got a small and benign program for seeing what is thrashing the hard drive on my win7 machine?
I used to use a little piece of freeware from PC mag. I would REALLY like to see what’s grinding away. Task manager, even with show all processes, isn’t helpful.
nick
added- and is there a windows update currently going on?
http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://www.apple.com
lol! It’s smart ass day!
I certainly wouldn’t classify OS X as “benign”.
@rbt — hah!
further examination shows windows update is the culprit. I thought I had auto updates turned off.
Every time I try linux it disappoints. It will use the sound, video and net just fine during install, but once done, invariably one of those won’t be right. There are a hundred other minor annoyances too. Granted that windows has plenty of annoyances, if I have to maintain a windows machine, I might as well maintain all of them in windows.
I used to run a fair bit of windows software that was not available on linux or wine, for work. I do a lot less of that now, and could get by with FOSS almost exclusively, except when I’m doing actual paid work.
I maintain a couple of older machines to maintain access to older hardware, or for some really old software that needs older, simpler machines (radio programming software sometimes needs real DOS running on 286 or 386 hardware, for one example.) I shut off my last win98 machine a few months ago, and thankfully haven’t needed to turn it back on. I have a couple of old laptops in various conditions “just in case” I need to run a really old firmware updater or device config tool for some REALLY old gear that my wife sometimes has to deal with.
I’m long past the point of playing with computers for fun. I just want them to work like an appliance. After all, the way we use them has changed from ‘working on the computer’ to ‘working on stuff that the computer is the only good interface to.’
nick
If you want to stockpile some critical medicines to include antibiotics. Just where do you source those from?
“I just noticed that a cat was looking at me when I wrote that last response to OFD.”
My operatives are EVERYWHERE.
“Macavity’s a Mystery Cat: he’s called the Hidden Paw–
For he’s the master criminal who can defy the Law.
He’s the bafflement of Scotland Yard, the Flying Squad’s despair:
For when they reach the scene of crime–Macavity’s not there!”
http://famousliteraryworks.com/eliot_macavity_the_mystery_cat.htm
“… all the Submarine Captains I served under were dyed-in-the-wool Constitutionalists and would do what was necessary to keep the Oath we all took.”‘
And part of that oath is “enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC…” I wonder how that will shake out if and when the time comes…
Buncha weisenheimers, here, Mr. nick; here’s what Satan has to say:
http://tweaks.com/windows/39199/how-to-detect-what-process-is-thrashing-your-hard-drive/
@ofd, thanks, I didn’t know about that.
Funny quirk, when perfmon or taskman is open, synergy stops working and I have to pick up the mouse attached to the machine.
nick
The usual advice is to buy Thomas Labs fish antibiotics. Those are a mix bag. Most are first- or second-generation antibiotics, and many are simple antibiotics rather than the combinations more commonly used nowadays. For example, Thomas Labs sells straight amoxicillin, which is useful on its own, but not as useful as amoxicillin + clavulanic acid (AKA co-amoxiclav or Augmentin). They do sell sulfamethoxazole + TMP, which is the most commonly used sulfa drug. All of them are quite expensive per pill.
Another alternative is veterinary antibiotics, which are just as pure as human drugs, and some are sold without prescription. I buy these by the kilo for science kits, which of course means I have a good stock on hand. The ones I stock in bulk are penicillin G potassium, oxytetracycline, sulfadimethoxine, and erythromycin phosphate. One thing to keep in mind is that many veterinary antibiotics are administered orally to livestock, but that won’t work with humans. For example, human stomach acids destroy the phosphate salt of erythromycin and penicillin G potassium, so those must either be injected or administered by retention enema.
Another one you might consider, although it’s extremely hard to find in the US, is thiamphenicol. It’s used elsewhere in the world on both animals and people, but it’s not approved in the US for human or veterinary use. It’s a close analog to chloramphenicol and has a nearly identical spectrum, but has never been associated with aplastic anemia as chloramphenicol has. That’s why chlorampenicol is no longer a first-line drug for any but a very few bacterial diseases. The problem is that about one time in a thousand that you administer chloramphenicol your patient is going to drop dead of aplastic anemia. Thiamphenicol is a very useful broad-spectrum antibiotic without the severe risks associated with its chlorine analog.
Yet another alternative is to tell your doctor that you plan to travel the world, including a lot of third-world Asian and African destinations, and ask him to prescribe you a large amount of serious broad-spectrum antibiotics. Still another is to make friends with a pharmacist, open a discussion on prepping if he/she seems amenable, and ask the pharmacist to discard in your direction antibiotics that are near expiration. Obviously, vets and physicians are good friends to have if they’re like-minded.
Or you can do what I’ve done/am doing/plan to do. Get yourself a copy of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers’ Encyclopedia and the equipment and consumables you need to make it up right here in the sink. If the S ever really HTF, I plan to go into small-scale pharmaceutical manufacturing. Not just antibiotics, but insulin, analgesics, etc. etc.
“he breaks the laws of Scotland yard, he breaks the laws of gravity….”
Any travel doc will get you a nice bottle of cipro and a serious anti-diarrheal.
nick
To anyone living in the Pacific Northwest, the information in the New Yorker is old news. The point of the article IMHO is found in a paragraph near the bottom:
“In 2009, Dougherty told me, he found some land for sale outside the inundation zone, and proposed building a new K-12 campus there. Four years later, to foot the ***hundred-and-twenty-eight-million-dollar*** bill, the district put up a bond measure. The tax increase for residents amounted to two dollars and sixteen cents per thousand dollars of property value. The measure failed by sixty-two per cent. Dougherty tried seeking help from Oregon’s congressional delegation but came up empty. The state makes money available for seismic upgrades, but buildings within the inundation zone cannot apply. At present, all Dougherty can do is make sure that his students know how to evacuate.”
In less verbal terms: Seaside wants to build a new “safe” school for $128 Million and can’t get support from locals for construction at that price.
I prefer to have a choice of several antibiotic classes rather than putting all of my eggs in one basket. As useful as the fluoroquinolone drugs are, I have some issues with them, particularly for older patients.
Of course, I’m also set up to culture.
In my opinion, one of the most important medications to have on hand if the SHTF is oral rehydration salts. You can make a half-assed substitute with ordinary table sugar and table salt and if possible a mashed banana, but it’s much better to stock food grade glucose, trisodium citrate, table salt, and potassium chloride (salt substitute) along with zinc sulfate or another zinc salt so that you can make up the official oral rehydration solution. All of the components are cheap and with the exception of zinc sulfate are available locally in health food stores and so on. I always have enough on hand to make up 1,000 liters or more of the solution.
My last physician gave Omnicef/cefdinir for pretty much every thing requiring an antibiotic as he considered amoxycillin to be useless. My current physician seems to hand out Augmentin/co-amoxiclav for most everything.
Dentists almost always give some version of amoxycillin.
I don’t think anyone in my family has ever been prescribed anything in the sulfa family. Perhaps because a sulfa allergy is so common that doctors have stopped bothering to prescribe it.
This is slightly different from the who position paper which includes a citrate.
WHO- new formula pdf warning
http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/69227/1/WHO_FCH_CAH_06.1.pdf?ua=1&ua=1
nick
added- and they recommend following it with the zinc
some pretty dramatic pix coming out of greece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3160873/Greek-Prime-Minister-Tsipras-faces-battle-quell-revolt-ministers-agreeing-austerity-measures-GERMANS-ashamed-forcing-them.html
nick
I’ve never been in the military. Would the Navy have any restrictions on firing a cruise missile at the White House?
Probably, but we used to claim that we had 23 pointed to the enemy and on targeted on New Jersey.
“24 empty tubes, and a mushroom cloud. Now it’s Miller time!”
The recipe you list is useful if you have access only to common household items, but the real stuff is much, much superior. Actually, it’s not the citrate that’s important. It’s the trisodium part. Trisodium citrate is in the formula to serve as a base buffer, which deals with acidosis, a major threat in severe dehydration. The trisodium citrate is a much superior base buffer to using sodium bicarbonate.
The low osmolarity thing is also important. There are still lots of products being sold that are compounded to the original WHO formulation, which a decade or more of experience showed definitively had much worse outcomes than the low osmolarity formulation.
“Or you can do what I’ve done/am doing/plan to do. Get yourself a copy of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers’ Encyclopedia and the equipment and consumables you need to make it up right here in the sink. If the S ever really HTF, I plan to go into small-scale pharmaceutical manufacturing. Not just antibiotics, but insulin, analgesics, etc. etc.”
Will some or any of this be covered to some extent in one or the other of your forthcoming volumes? Or is there a text of some sort out there that delineates what a noob might need to make up some basic stuff and where to find the ingredients for same? Without running afoul of busybody Fed and LE types?
“some pretty dramatic pix coming out of greece…”
Yeah, the Daily Mail and RT and even Al Jazeera usually seem to have the best pics. Maybe it’s my old street cop buzz kicking in again but I’d be in favor of either firing shotguns at the pavement in front of petrol bomb throwers or taking them out completely via snipers. The first method would likely set them to dancing instead of the cops and maybe drop their little bombs and igniting them on themselves. Or full-bore fire hoses.
Just spent this lovely Vermont summuh afternoon on the back yard operations and got a good chunk of the Honey-Do list done. If I still drank, it would be “Miller Time,” but I wouldn’t slug down any of that lousy Murkan lager crap ever again; it would be local stuff, right up the road in fact:
http://www.14thstarbrewing.com/
So you buy the trisodium citrate online from a food additive supplier? Or is there a more ordinary way to get it? Is it the major component in something common?
nick
(yup, common stuff, that’s what I could go to the store and get, so that’s what I got. My current limit on total amount is the fake salt, and I can buy that at any grocery store.)
Looks like Amazon has it (assuming this is the right stuff):
http://amzn.com/B00250Y9Y6
And from the Land Down Under, more insanity; it is something in the air? The water? Too many household cats? WTF is wrong with those people???
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/robert-farago/adler-seven-shot-lever-action-shotgun-triggers-rumors-of-a-new-australian-gun-grab/#more-365526
@OFD
It’s not realistic to attempt to turn someone into a wizard in a practical book, but I will cover the basics.
@nick
Sodium citrate is a commonly used food chemical. Unfortunately, most suppliers don’t distinguish among the mono-, di-, and tri-sodium form, and that’s a key issue. You want the trisodium form. Here’s one place you can order it.
https://www.soapgoods.com/Sodium-Citrate-Granular-p-752.html
Note that this place sells two forms of sodium citrate, fine and granular. The granular is the trisodium form. The fine is unspecified, and probably a mix of two or all three forms. You need 1.5 grams per liter, so the half-pound size gives you enough for about 150 liters of solution. That sounds like a lot, but a patient with cholera may go through five liters a day, or even 10 liters, so I’d consider the half pound size as a minimum. Incidentally, the stuff Soap Goods sells is originally FCC (food grade), but they don’t maintain that certification in their repackaging process. That won’t be a problem. The stuff is still fine to eat.
Even if it hadn’t been food grade originally, I’d still use it if I had nothing better. Notice that the WHO says that ORS is so important that it should be administered even if the available water is contaminated with bacteria. That should tell you just how important ORS is. The difference between life and death, literally.
Soap Goods also sells glucose and potassium chloride in quantity, and cheaper than you’ll find it most places. It also started out as food grade, but is no longer so certified because of the repackaging.
RE: Amazon Prime Day
Looks like lots of people are not impressed. Twitter is trending #PrimeDayFail and the national news has even picked it up:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/15/news/amazon-walmart-prime-day-customers/
“It’s not realistic to attempt to turn someone into a wizard in a practical book…”
Indeed, I have no wish to become a wizard; we hang wizards and witches here in Nova Anglia, Sir. Basic info will be fine.
RE: ORS
Can you mix the ORS ingredients into little packets than can be easily mixed into a gallon or a liter of water? That is, can those chemicals all be mixed together and stored effectively for length periods of time?
“100% of home invasions occur in the home. Keep a knife handy as well.”
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/daniel-zimmerman/contest-entry-need-another-reason-to-home-carry/
Best comment that I have seen in a long while. #7 from the top.
we hang wizards and witches here in Nova Anglia, Sir.
I thought that you drowned them proving that they were a witch (witches float). And then burned them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunking
In reference to Australia banning lever action shotguns, I’ve thought that a lever action shotgun was totally cool ever since I saw one in Terminator 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9SpHLyZuP0
@Chad
Yes, you can make up sachets ahead of time. I’d suggest 2-liter packets, because that’s a very common bottle size. I’d want to weigh out the amounts on a per-packet basis, because you can’t assume that mixing the powders all together and then weighing out the amount for a packet will give you a homogeneous blend of the different components. Decent electronic pocket scales on amazon with 200 g capacities run $10 to $20.
The one issue you might encounter is if you use hydrated glucose. The WHO ORS spec specifies anhydrous glucose because using the hydrated version can result in a changed appearance as the ORS powder ages.
I think Mrs. Obama is a yuppie dingbat, and I disagree quite strongly with her political outlook. But someone should beat those squids about the head until they are made to understand that she does *NOT* set the nutritional policy for the United States Navy.
“…Mrs. Obama is a yuppie dingbat…”
That would be a very charitable view of her and her attempted machinations and beliefs about this country and its people. I think of her as a rabid leftist millionaire who seeks the destruction of the country, along with her husband. And the rulers have chosen them to accelerate the process, obviously. The next figurehead will double down on that.
“…someone should beat those squids about the head until they are made to understand that she does *NOT* set the nutritional policy for the United States Navy.”
That’s probably correct, and I’d agree; but I’d also be willing to bet that the top swabbie brass may have implemented nutritional policies that Moochelle advocates as a way of currying favor and greasing promotions. I don’t know and don’t have the full story, of course, but I am pretty darn cynical these days.
She did set the nutritional policy for every school in America that receives federal money….
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Oh, and since we’re grid UP, you can buy ORS in convenient packets.
I have some electrolyte replacement tablets in my boo boo kit too for me when I’m sweating outside. I don’t normally drink sugary stuff, as it puts me to sleep, so the tablets will at least keep the hangover and cramping down….
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If you were the person in charge of setting the nutrition policy for the US Navy, do you think you could tell the Commander in Chief’s wife what to do with her stupid ideas and still keep your job?
@pcb_duffer – you had better thank your lucky stars that there are “squids” but I recommend you don’t mention “s-word” that word around any of them. Remember, we do associate with Marines. 😉
It is a sad state of affairs today that all of the military services have lost all of the true Leaders. Back in the day no Top Brass would have messed with the troops chow.
“No love for the Garden state! Poll reveals New Jersey is the most hated state in America
New Jersey is the least liked state in the nation, according to poll by YouGov
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3162621/No-love-Garden-state-Poll-reveals-Americans-hate-New-Jersey-adore-Hawaii.html
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So saving one tube for NJ looks like a good idea!
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I stacked time (three and a half years) in Nova Caesarea with the first wife; I don’t get why all the hate. A lot of heavily populated states, esp. in the Northeast, look and sound as crummy as parts of NJ, and more so now that the national population has doubled since I was a kid. Plenty of assholes in other states, too.
I always tell people visiting or traveling through NJ to get the fuck off the Garden State Parkway, NJ Turnpike and Route 22, i.e. the eastern half of the state. Check out the western half, up to the PA and Delaware borders; rolling fields, farmland and forests, and the state has several of the major/important War of Independence battlefield sites, Princeton, Trenton, Monmouth, etc. The Pinelands, ghost towns, and Cape May, sharing with Worcester, MA, the highest per capita of triple-decker houses, nicely painted by the ocean. Peaches, corn and blueberries in frigging April. Up here we harvest mud that month.
First wife still lives down there, in ritzy horse country, and is one of the 100 super lawyers in the state now, evidently, and never got rid of my surname.
“…you had better thank your lucky stars that there are “squids””
Indeed. My maternal grandfather was one and did three years in North Africa during the Good War; my maternal uncle likewise, only in Vietnam with a destroyer offshore shelling the shit out of the commies; and my dad was a Coastie in the North Atlantic during that Good War, when they were still under the Navy. Another uncle was also Navy. I’m the sole surviving veteran on my side of the family now, and did AF and Army during the Late Unpleasantness in SEA.
Hey Trump fans! You boy has been vindicated!
http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/07/16-facts-which-support-donald-trumps-view-on-illegal-immigration/
I don’t worry about whether I’m up to culture. The question is whether the culture is up to me. Considering the sad state of popular culture, I’d have to say No.
“Considering the sad state of popular culture, I’d have to say No.”
Roger that. The current popular culture: music sucks, art sucks, literature sucks, theater and movies suck, and the kids are not alright. They’re fucked up, in fact.
Some enterprising scientist needs to work up a culture in a kitchen or lab sink somewhere that takes out, selectively, all the riff-raff, criminal scum, banksters, but I repeat myself…
Prep fail!
I forgot my dauber at bingo! Noob!
What are daubers used for at bingo? Marking cards or something? Can’t just use a pencil or pen? WTF? I’ve only played bingo one time in my entire life: at some mil-spec hotel in downtown Krung Thep, i.e. Bangkok, Thailand in 1974. It was kind of a gas, and we were kinda gassed. Just two or three of us enlisted scum males in a room full of mil-spec wives, no other males, weird, but we were all drinkin’ and smokin’ and jokin’ and had a real good time, as I recall. Better fun and safer than roaming the streets with hookers and ka-toys and dopers and junkies and suchlike. I think later we went out into the streets anyway and ended up with hookers. Can’t keep a good Murkan man down, eh?
Lessee if I have a prep fail today…hmmm….oh I know! Not really a prep fail, just a dumbass mind-blank: couldn’t start the chainsaw. WTF? Tried another extension cord; nope. WTF? Worked OK last time; WTF? Finally realized the handguard bar or whatever the eff it is wasn’t pulled all the way back.
Bingo!
My next trick will be finding out tomorrow how deep our well is; I seem to recall “140 feet” for some reason, but nothing in our home inspection report, natch, and nothing on the well cap itself, natch. I go to the local well driller’s online site and then a link to a state geology page, which has more links to zero in and download a private well spreadsheet or pdf. Nope, doesn’t work. Blank. So I gotta call them tomorrow and see if they have a record of it.
The sounds of summuh this year in the ‘hood: next-door neighbor’s stepdaughter on the other side of us with the nearly nonstop hacking and coughing as she lights up one ciggie after another, sits on her ass all day, and watches her stepdad mow the lawn. The fat Murkan slobbo cretin across the street who apparently just got himself a noisy bright orange dirtbike and has been screaming up and down the street and around the block, blowing gas smoke out the back with a ciggie hanging out of his gob.
Off to the sack shortly, with visions of landmines, snipers, and piano wire stretched across the street out front…
Holy chit, Batman!
“Bernie receipts: $15.2 million; spending: $3.1 million; cash on hand: $12.1 million.”
“Jeb receipts: $11.4 million; spending: $3.1 milluon; cash on hand: $8.4 million.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/jeb-and-bernie/
Trump fans!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/15/trump-to-usa-look-how-rich-i-am.html
Oh what the hell, one more surly post from this cranky old git:
Remember how I’ve said the country has gone from being feminized to being infantilized?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-infantilization-of-america-continues-apace/
I fucking give up. The country ain’t worth saving anymore. Let it burn. Maybe all the dumbo cretins wearing their standard uniforms of baggy shorts, 4XL tee shirts and baseball hats at funny angles can gin up a bucket brigade, but I sure wouldn’t count it. The move “Idiocracy” is now, not 500 years in the future.
500 years in the future homo sapiens sapiens will be back to Cro Magnon and Neanderthalis if not Zinjanthropus.
Cascadia Subduction Zone MEGA-QUAKE Video Documentaries …
MegaQuake Could Hit North America – BBC (Full Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEgLjgnv_3c
Countdown to catastrophe: Earthquake in North America
(National Geographic TV Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yukp0bPkQxs
“Bernie receipts: $15.2 million; spending: $3.1 million; cash on hand: $12.1 million.”
“Jeb receipts: $11.4 million; spending: $3.1 milluon; cash on hand: $8.4 million.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/jeb-and-bernie/
The Wicked Witch of the East, excuse me, Hilary Clinton, is reputedly spending $300K per DAY (that is nine million dollars per month) on setting up 7,000 lawyers across these still United States. She is going to litigate and recount until she wins the nomination and then the White House. Bernie does not have a prayer.
I certainly wouldn’t classify OS X as “benign”.
The last benign operating system was NOS/VE. Apart from a few demo machines it went to its reward about 20 years ago… 🙁
” Bernie does not have a prayer.”
Ordinarily I’d agree. But she’s evidently got some kind of serious med issues and there may be other problems; has anyone seen or heard of husband Larry Klinton stumping for her anywhere yet? I’d count Sanders out, like I say, but not completely, not yet. Same with Trump; the Jebster could implode and the other clowns are too far back, in percentage points and money.
Imagine that: The Donald versus Bernie Sanders!
This is all just hokum and bunkum anyway, but good for a laugh.