It was 17 degrees, cloudy, and calm when I took Colin out at 8:15.
Still home. Just running late this morning. Nothing new to report.
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Good morning all, I’m assuming Barbara is on her way down to see Bob, and hope we’ll get an update later.
In the mean time, it is BITTERLY cold by Houston standards, at 24F with a ‘feels like’ of 19F. That’s well below freezing. Fortunately it isn’t windy this morning.
I’ve still got my citrus trees covered in black plastic with a 60w incandescent light bulb under the cover to heat the tree. I expect I’ll lose some leaves or a small branch or two where they contact the plastic and get too cold. I brought the potted grapefruit inside last night. Grid down, I’m not sure what I’d do to keep them warm, but I could certainly keep them covered. I suppose I could put a small backpack stove, sterno can, or single mantle lantern under the tarp. It would be worth the effort to keep mature, producing citrus trees.
I’m gonna order one of the propane fired, on demand water heaters someone here linked. I haven’t decided if I want one with a pump or not. I think it’s probably much more efficient in fuel, and certainly in time and personal energy to use one to heat water grid down than my boiling ring and big pot. In the mean time, it can be used for camping, for heating cleaning water, or for warm water in the spring at our swim meets. At <$200 they aren’t that much more than a ring and big pot anyway.
I put the exclamation points in the post title because I can’t really believe the year. It seems incredible to me to be living in this year. I grew up with shows like “Space:1999” which had Moonbase Alpha and alien contact in the unimaginably far future of 1999 and here we are, far past that.
I blame the proto-SJWs and the progressive movement for sidetracking space exploration, and denying me a moonbase. Bastards have stolen the future, ideologically, financially (by borrowing for social programs), and spiritually (with their toxic version of feminism, and destruction of the Individualist American Male- known in SciFi as “the competent man”.)
Well, they’ve stolen the future would could have been living in, and left us this one. Still better than lots of futures that could have been headed our way…
And with that,
nick
In what should come as no surprise to anyone reading here, a new study finds apps listening to you and selling your data–
“Your phone really IS spying on you: Hundreds of Android apps covertly use your handset’s microphone to listen in on your TV habits
250 games on the Google Play Store use software that tracks TV ads you watch
Many of the games and apps are geared towards children, a new report claims
The information is collected by the software even when the apps are not running
Data on what you watch is sold on to advertisers for ad targeting and analysis
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5231295/Apps-use-phones-microphone-spy-TV-habits.html”
Funny how what sounds crazy at first, and paranoid, turns out to be true and widespread enough it makes the tabloids.
n
Maybe some packing “pillows”. They’re lightweight and available in almost infinite supply to anyone who receives a lot of boxes. Throw a “ribbon” or two over the bulgy parts of the tree before putting on the black plastic.
Ever since Snowden showed that the tin-foil-hat conspiracy nutcases not only were right but didn’t go far enough, I’ve been a lot more open to “crazy” claims. The constant stream of revelations about the major tech companies reinforces that, as do Wikileaks’s revelations of venality, overreach, and incompetence by those who see themselves as our masters.
And on that last theme, Badly strained UK hospitals to delay non-urgent procedures. But don’t worry. The NHS isn’t real socialized medicine. Socialized medicine has never really been tried, so no one can honestly say that it doesn’t work, and anyway there are saboteurs constantly trying to make it fail.
How’s your Ebonics?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5230833/Jeopardy-player-mispronounces-Coolios-Ganstas-Paradise.html
Think about where we should be, 2001 A Space Odyssey. Of course we do have HAL 9000 though (even more so).
Where we are is more like 1984.
Yes, I do have a couple of Alexa devices. I am under no illusion that I am not being watched, and if any one thinks they are not they had better be totally off the grid, living in a cave and never venturing out.
For frost and freezing conditions I’ve used blankets, furniture pads or towels at the top of plants then topped by a tarp. Under a large plant or tree you might also try a hose running water at a very low flow.
I don’t embrace it though. I don’t have smart tvs. I don’t have a cam or mic on my pc. I shut off as much of the stuff as I can, either hitting opt out, or not signing up.
I buy a lot of stuff used, for cash.
I can’t imagine trying to establish a ‘cover identity’ the way old school spies did. You don’t just need a credit history anymore. Now you need social media presence, browsing history, loyalty store cards, cell phone and google maps movement histories, cr@p tons of ancillary things that will easily determine real from fake identities. You’d need .gov level hackers to fake all that convincingly.
Which, btw, is my problem with Stephen fukcface of Vegas fame. NO digital “pocket lint.” And STILL no security cam footage.
n
As a IT Security professional, I take what precautions I can. No iPhone, no data plan on our phones, no home WiFi, only Linux on all in-home devices, dual firewall and in-home DMZ, etc. I run wireshark regularly to see if anything unusual is traversing my interface. Paranoid? Certainly! It’s a survival trait in my business.
Well Echo devices do have a mute button even if that defeats the instant voice command (and assuming it really does mute). Of course we could fight back. Say outrageous and misleading things. I do it with Alexa all the time just for amusement. What can I say? Cheap thrills.
Viva la resistance!
Well, they’ve stolen the future would could have been living in, and left us this one. Still better than lots of futures that could have been headed our way…
NASA succumbed to Pournelle’s “Iron Law of Bureaucracy”.
SLS may fly … once.
“NASA succumbed to Pournelle’s “Iron Law of Bureaucracy”.”
And what drives the iron law? In many cases it has been pushed and accomplished by the imposition of the prog agenda and the SJW mindset. Vis, BHO and refocusing NASA on making musselmen feel better, and NASA tolerating wazzizzname with the extremist global warmening outlook.
Once they’ve captured an organization, they use the power of regulation (internal or external) to hobble competitors and the industry at large.
n
Who said Man will someday get to the stars, but there’s no guarantee they’ll be speaking english? (paraphrase)
n
“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
https://www.pcmag.com/news/358249/intel-chips-have-a-major-design-flaw-and-the-fix-means-slowe
“Over the next few weeks there’s a very good chance your PC or laptop is going to take a significant performance hit. The worst case scenario being it will get 30 percent slower. Worse than that is the fact you can do nothing about it as the slow down is a side effect of fixing a major design flaw in Intel processors.”
I cannot tell yet if this is a real problem or not.
We woke up this morning to a rumbling noise in the attic. Both five year old water heaters are leaking water into their pans. The right one is really bad, probably at least a gallon per minute. No way this is a freezing problem. They are low profile 30 gallon natural gas Bradford Whites. I will not have any more Bradford Whites.
From the Dept of the Blindingly Obvious–
“Influx of young male migrants fuelled a rise in violent crime in Germany, study funded by Merkel’s government says
Data collected from Lower Saxony between 2015 and 2016 showed a 10.4 per cent rise in crime due almost exclusively to refugees
Report found young males travelling alone were most likely to commit crimes
But study also found refugees themselves were most likely to be the victims
More than 1million migrants arrived in Germany during 2015 after Merkel opened the border, telling citizens ‘we can do it’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5231705/Study-Influx-young-male-migrants-fueled-rise-violence.html”
n
Five years! Wow that’s awful. Most water heaters have a longer warranty than that so at least you might get some credit, but probably not on a different brand. My GE 50 gal ng is over 20 years old. The thermocouple went out once but other than that, just fine.
Five years! Wow that’s awful. Most water heaters have a longer warranty than that so at least you might get some credit, but probably not on a different brand.
Actually 4.5 years old, May of 2013. I do not want new Bradford White water heaters unless I get the replacements for free and that is not going to happen. I have had one of the digital controllers replaced at 2.5 years with an analog controller for $500. One of the water heaters is blowing water around that “new” analog controller.
Yikes, that sucks. Any kind of warranty from the plumbers who did the install? they picked the brand, right?
n
Five years seems awfully short. My last water heater I replaced was a GE electric, that I believe I had for seven or eight years. Under the warranty, Home Depot gave me a new one at no charge. I did the install in both cases.
And two water heaters earlier, I had a leak at the top of the heater, and it was spraying large amounts of water all over my furnace room, which was luckily in the basement.
In my case, the electric heating elements are not connected to a power source. The tank is used to store the hot water produced by the coil in my gas-fired boiler. Thus I was surprised about the relatively short life span of the tank.
Not to jinx myself or anything, but our current water heater was due for replacement (according to the home inspector) when we moved in 9 years ago. It makes loud popcorn noises when in use. Still going strong, still heating water. Still making noise too.
Guess we got lucky for once.
nick
I just had my gas fired water heater replaced. It was 18 years old.
In Canberra in 2002 I had to have the electric water heater replaced after 25 years. The replacement was still going when I sold the house in 2014, so I’ve been lucky.
It makes loud popcorn noises when in use. Still going strong, still heating water. Still making noise too.
Drain the water heater a couple of times to reduce the sediment and the “popcorn” noise (bubbles rising from the bottom of the sediment) will decrease.
The popping actually isn’t good for your heater.
That reminds me — ours needs to be drained again. I got out of practice when we moved to WA State for four years.
@greg, I’m a bit [superstitiously perhaps] afraid to touch it. I really don’t want to have to add ‘replace water heater’ to my list this week…
n
Nick, don’t listen to Greg’s nonsense. That noise is the firey water demon break free of its shackles. Run! Run for your life!
Aaarrrrgggg!!!!!
If I said that to my little one, she’d run! Last night as we were doing a tinkerbell puzzle she said it must be really pretty in the fairy world. Still sees the magic all around.
n
I also vote for the drain and sediment cleanout as a first-level fix. Second level would be replacing the center electrode thingy, but that’s a hassle due to the pipe connection corrosion; you’ll need a cheater bar and a good heavy-duty socket (air wrench sockets are good).
Had a who had hot water problems. He opened the drain (after turning off the water supply, and the drain was blocked by sediment. Had to use a coat hanger to help flush/clean it out. (He’s on well-water.)
Our house is about 18 years old, and still on the original water heater. Had to replace the thermostats last fall (both the upper and lower); one of them had failed, leaving the heater elements in the ‘on’ position, causing the water temp to get to 170F. Replacement for both about $25, and fixed the problem.
Although water heaters only last 10-15 years, I figure I have a couple more years in them, since the water here is fairly clean (supplied by local water utility from wells). The water is a bit ‘hard’, as evidenced by the hard water stains on the shower glass. But I can live with it.
From the Fort Bend Herald editor today:
The more you weigh, the harder you are to kidnap.
Stay Safe.
Eat more cake.
Yikes, that sucks. Any kind of warranty from the plumbers who did the install? they picked the brand, right?
He gave a two year labor warranty. We are WAY past that. Shoot, I paid him $500+ to replace the digital controller in the left heater at 2 years and 2 months about two years ago.
Ok, this gets better by the minute. I just crawled around the heaters in the attic and examined them both. The right heater (still has a digital Honeywell controller) has cracked paint all around the heater casing. Before the PLASTIC ! ! ! pipe from the tank to the controller failed and started spewing a gallon of water every minute, it looks like the digital controller just opened the gas valve wide open and ignored the temperature setting. It is showing major overheating damage. I will not use the right heater again, the tank will fail soon.
I have quote from another plumber who lives around the corner to replace both water heaters tomorrow for $2,400, sales tax included. If the installing plumber wants to just replace the controller on the overheated heater for $500, we are gone to the new guy. The new plumber has many recommendations on our nextdoor and facebook pages.
I am just wondering if I am man enough to take a shower in +-50 F water at the house ? Or just take my business clothes and a towel up to the office and take a shower there with my 15 year old electric 55 gallon water heater.
As a IT Security professional, I take what precautions I can. No iPhone, no data plan on our phones, no home WiFi, only Linux on all in-home devices, dual firewall and in-home DMZ, etc. I run wireshark regularly to see if anything unusual is traversing my interface. Paranoid? Certainly! It’s a survival trait in my business.
I have a yellow sticky note over my webcam at the office.
“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
https://www.pcmag.com/news/358249/intel-chips-have-a-major-design-flaw-and-the-fix-means-slowe
I am wondering if this is another CIA backdoor.
Intel is gone. The class action on this one will force them into
bankruptcy as the flaw is apparently in all Pentium and newer Cpus.
I am just wondering if I am man enough to take a shower in +-50 F water at the house ?
Two words: cardiac arrest
“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
My understanding is that this is a Ring 0 violation due to some of the predictive processing features in the processor. The violation is certainly a read violation of the kernels page table. It SHOULDN’T be a write access violation, but without more data it is hard to tell.
In theory, read access may allow a successful buffer overflow attack on kernel memory. I’m not sure how likely that is exploitable, but I guess it is enough to warrant patches to the OS’.
It means not using the cache for the kernel, which will slow down every kernel access. I doubt most users will notice.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/whats-behind-the-intel-design-flaw-forcing-numerous-patches/
Ha.
My mom recently reminded me that when I was 9 I told my 3-year-old sister that the boogie man lived in the toilet. My sister refused to use the toilet thereafter, to my mother’s enormous annoyance.
You plan to take a shower? But… aren’t you an engineer?
Bet the company on that one never coming to light.
If .gov ‘fixes’ their problems so they can continue “in the name of competition” we’ll know it was put there intentionally.
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Intel’s flaw sounds like a Read leak, not a Write leak. That won’t crash the computer, but can lead to a leak of sensitive information. Big problem in cloud servers, ISPs, and anything which handles sensitive data.
No, but the hosting services sure will.
And what about AWS customers? If Amazon has to slow down the processors by 20%, the customers will need 20% more time or 20% more processors to get their jobs done. Who pays?
We are getting two new Rheem 40 gallon low profile natural gas water heaters for $2,400 with no sales tax from the neighborhood plumber tomorrow afternoon. He is replacing three water heaters today already. Seeing as we just changed from 6.25% to 8.25% sales tax on Dec 12 (thank you Sugar Land), that is a major savings. 6 years warranty on the water heaters (whatever that is worth !), 3 years warranty on the labor.
The old plumber wants $480 plus sales tax to replace the controller on the 4.5 year overheated water heater. Or, $3,200 to replace both water heaters. I told him thanks and good bye. I have serious trust issues with any heat exchanger with visible signs of overheating. That overheated tank is just a crisis waiting to happen.
Now to a shower at the office with hot water. I figure that I am man enough to shave with cold water at the house.
BTW, I am not a fan of Honeywell water heater controllers in case anyone is wondering. Who in their right mind puts plastic piping on a heat exchanger ??? Plus the digital computer gets its power from the flame detector. Sounds good in principal but running a digital computer in an attic ?
You plan to take a shower? But… aren’t you an engineer?
Major OCD issues in my old age. Major !
Not much sensitive info stored in the kernel Translation Lookup Buffer.
AWS, Azure, and others will take a hit, but I doubt it will be 20%. If they are hitting the network or drives, those delays will overwhelm the time for reloading the kernels TLB.
I doubt most users will notice.
No, but the hosting services sure will.
Bing, aka Microsoft, reputedly uses 4 watt ARM cpus for their cloud. A lot less cooling required. Google and Yahoo are looking at moving to ARM also.
https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/03/09/windows-server-comes-arm-chips-azure/
Bing? Bing doesn’t even do a good job of indexing the MS website.
why on earth would anyone use bing?
n
The article I linked says that ARM might have the same flaw. Seems unlikely, but….
The article I linked says that ARM might have the same flaw. Seems unlikely, but….
Sounds like the CIA has been busy. But AMD claims to not have the flaw.
My conspiracy theorist son says that all cars / trucks built in last ten years can be controlled by the CIA. He thinks that they have a backdoor into anything built or coded.
Me, my one visit from the CIA scared the pants off me. They wanted to be able to put subtle calculation errors in our software for our Russian users. Don’t stand close to Russian pipelines …
Not. Like. Us.
“‘B**** I’m not worried about that gun’: Chicago woman is shot in the arm while streaming on Facebook Live
A 27-year-old woman was injured in a shooting that occurred while she was streaming on Facebook Live
The video shows her arguing with another woman sitting in a car on Chicago’s South Side Tuesday afternoon
The other woman threatens her with a gun and then shoots her in the arm
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5232435/Chicago-woman-shot-arm-streaming-Facebook-Live.html”
n
why on earth would anyone use bing?
It’s Mr. SteveF’s porn search engine of choice.
Article I read said the paged memory could be viewed by unauthorized processes. (I make no representations as to the accuracy of that article; merely summarizing what it said.)
Nonsense. All the good stuff is on the darkweb, which Bing doesn’t reach.
(Er … quick double-check … Right. Which Bing doesn’t reach.)
Sounds like the CIA has been busy. But AMD claims to not have the flaw.
So, what’s worse? The performance penalty from going AMD or the performance decrease from the patched OS on Intel CPUs.
I don’t think the CIA has anything to do with it, but it is one of those things that make you say “hmmmmm…”. Intel was in a quandry about how to force upgrades when new i-series chips are only marginally better in real world terms than CPUs produced five years ago.
Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by ignorance or incompetence.
I don’t think the Intel flaw was malicious. I think it was a flaw designed in through the eternal optimism of the 90s bubble. Nobody thought about the risks associated with sharing the TLB. They saw an opportunity to make the whole shebang run faster and they took it.
I’m surprised it took this long to find, but I won’t worry about it too much. (What good would it do me?)
On the other hand, most of my home PCs run AMD chips. I’m a sucker for the underdog.
So we have a minor prepping fail here. We drove down to Florida a week ago, and the weather at home was comparatively mild. Temperatures are much lower at home now. As in as low as 15 below zero without wind chill. I have the lining for my heavy coat, but not the heavy coat.
On the other hand, most of my home PCs run AMD chips. I’m a sucker for the underdog.
The last AMD rig I ran was a dual cpu Opteron at the office. It was an ok pc but I was running Windows XP x64 on it and having major device driver issues. Plus, the dual Opterons sounded like a 737 spooling up its turbines. I bounced it to the server room after a couple of months to become our new file server running Windows XP x86.
I don’t think the CIA has anything to do with it, but it is one of those things that make you say “hmmmmm…”. Intel was in a quandry about how to force upgrades when new i-series chips are only marginally better in real world terms than CPUs produced five years ago.
I am wondering what the cost of replacing all Intel cpus in the field for the last 20 years is ??? 10 billion dollars ? 50 billion dollars ? Plus the legal fees for fighting off the lawyers.
I remember the floating point error of the 1990s. We put a test in our software (still there !) since the floating point error caused our software to malfunction.
C 03/27/95 Lynn McGuire add pentium math coprocessor test
double precision chptst
double precision divtwo
double precision top
double precision bottom
C data for bad pentium test
data top / 4195835.0D0 /
data bottom / 3145727.0D0 /
C check for bad pentium math coprocessor
DIVTWO = top / bottom
CHPTST = (DIVTWO * bottom) – top
IF (CHPTST .gt. 1.0e-8) THEN
call scrwri (‘ ‘)
call scrwri (‘WARNING: Your Intel Pentium CPU apparently ‘ //
* ‘has a bad math coprocessor or some other’)
call scrwri (‘WARNING: application has changed the floating ‘//
* ‘point roundoff. Your simulation results’)
call scrwri (‘WARNING: may be adversely affected. Please ‘ //
* ‘contact Intel and replace your FPU. Please’)
call scrwri (‘WARNING: note that this test is sometimes ‘ //
* ‘falsely activated by Virtual Machine servers.’)
write (screenbuffer, 10234) chptst
10234 format (‘WARNING: The actual floating point test error was ‘,
* g14.7, ‘ (should be 0.0). (runchk)’)
call scrwri (screenbuffer)
call scrwri (‘ ‘)
END IF
I’m gonna order one of the propane fired, on demand water heaters someone here linked. I haven’t decided if I want one with a pump or not. I think it’s probably much more efficient in fuel, and certainly in time and personal energy to use one to heat water grid down than my boiling ring and big pot. In the mean time, it can be used for camping, for heating cleaning water, or for warm water in the spring at our swim meets. At <$200 they aren’t that much more than a ring and big pot anyway.
URL ? It would be tricky to pump into the house when one of your water heaters is spewing. Would need to be an outdoor shower rig or maybe in a corner of the garage with the heater outside.
Luckily, I have showers in the mens room and ladies room at the office. And a 55 gallon electric water heater. The office is totally electric (800 amps over four mains !). I asked Centerpoint about pulling a natural gas line back to the office building from the road in front (a little over 1,000 ft). They offered $6,000 for a line to the well house and then I would have to install gas lines at my cost. Somewhere around $20,000 plus changing the electric strip air handlers to natural gas furnaces. Not gonna happen.
https://www.amazon.com/Eccotemp-L5-Tankless-Heater-Pump/dp/B00GKQWG0A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1515025024&sr=8-2&keywords=l5+water+heater
This one has a pump bundled with it so you can use a barrel of water or some other reservoir. One has a pump and strainer, and the cheaper one doesn’t have the pump.
n
added – they make a couple other versions and bundles too. One mounts more permanently, like at a cabin, and there seems to be one mounted on a 4 basin sink too.
And another Not. Like. Us.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5232635/Woman-clings-car-drives-road-rage.html
Which of us would climb in the door and kick the driver?
n
Vis, BHO and refocusing NASA on making musselmen feel better,
Which never really happened. The problem at NASA is that the last two administrations just let things drift, so Congress stepped in and designed the SLS, which is eating all the moneys. And it is untouchable unless the current administration wants to take on Richard Shelby, R, Alabama who is keeping it going.
I remember the floating point error of the 1990s. We put a test in our software (still there !) since the floating point error caused our software to malfunction.
My calculator shows the error as 10^-27. Python (64 bit) and Tcl (32 bit) round it to 0.0.
Back in the day, I used the lecture on logarithms from Feynman’s “Lectures” to isolate the error exactly for my corporate masters at GTE. IIRC, it came down to three input pins missing in the inverse logarithm circuit output from the divider.
Which never really happened. The problem at NASA is that the last two administrations just let things drift, so Congress stepped in and designed the SLS, which is eating all the moneys. And it is untouchable unless the current administration wants to take on Richard Shelby, R, Alabama who is keeping it going.
When we were at Kennedy in March, Boeing, ULA, and SpaceX were busy flying hardware while NASA personnel worked on … upgrading their HQ building.
SLS will fly once. At $10 billion (current estimate) each launch, it is nothing but full employment for space geeks. SpaceX will be flying the Falcon Heavy for the cost of fuel and partial hardware depreciation within five years, and the military will make sure that either Delta V keeps flying or the successor is ready.
the military will make sure that either Delta V keeps flying or the successor is ready.
He who controls the high ground wins the battle …
Who said Man will someday get to the stars, but there’s no guarantee they’ll be speaking english? (paraphrase)
“Firefly” was an interesting mix of English and Mandarin. Highly recommended even though it only went 13 episodes and a movie.
Even my mom liked Firefly.
Network did everything they could to kill it. Aired eps out of sequence, put it up against heavy hitters…
We’ll never know what “Shepard Book”s secret past is. Nor how many people River could kill…..
“What, like science fiction?” — “Jane, you live on a SPACESHIP.”
“If wishes were horses we’d all be eatin’ steak.”
n
Are people in Oregon really this feeble?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-04/oregon-gas-pump-law-change/9304840
Are people in Oregon really this feeble?
Not in the rural areas covered by the new law, but Portland and the suburbs are a whole different story. Living up there, I came to believe that a lot of the locals view the characters on “Portlandia” as role models rather than parody.
Ah, Firefly. I’m not a fan of TV series at all, yet I’ve watched those 13 episodes at least 3, maybe 4 times. A show with so much potential, especially so much potential to puncture snowflake balloons and poke sacred cows.
Which is probably why the network killed it.
As Vox Day likes to point out, having a business run by SJWs is expensive. Firefly would have generated massive revenue in the long term, but it’s safer to have replaced it with some nameless sitcom.
Oh, and Kaylee was hot. Interestingly, I don’t find the actress (Jewel Staite) particularly attractive. I remember reading that she was told to gain a few pounds, so that it looked like Kaylee knew what to do with a cheeseburger. Those pounds are gone, and Jewel Staite is just another overly-thin actress.
Yes, she was hot.
and river was a good example of why you don’t put it in crazy….
n
Are people in Oregon really this feeble?
Shocked me when I made a trip out west in 1979 for a visit. Pulled into a station, got out, started pumping my gas. Guy came running out in a panic, yelling and screaming, threatening to call the police. I did not know that you were not allowed to pump your own gas. Coming from Texas that was the norm.
It was supposedly about safety and not setting the station on fire. It was supposedly about environmental protection so you would not spill any gas. It was supposedly about providing jobs for people to pump gas.
In my opinion was a limp wristed gay pinko wimpy lazy assed law.
Does anyone else have the feeling that that statement expresses some intolerance? I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I think there’s some in there.
“my opinion” is the intolerant phrase. Nobody else is allowed?
Mr. SteveF, in asking for the opinions of others, is the tolerant one in this exchange.
In my opinion was a limp wristed gay pinko wimpy lazy assed law.
I never checked, but I would guess that full time gas pump jockey is a union job in Oregon.
-gasp-! You’re right! How did I never see this flagrant violation of interpersonal intersectionality???
(I almost typed “vagrant” rather than “flagrant”, which would fall somewhere between a microaggression and a megaagression on the intolerance scale. I also note that the built-in dictionary on this browser now has “microaggression”, which was not the case a month ago.)
I basically did the same thing up there once but they were nice about it and just took over and finished. Just a way to keep people no longer employed in the lumber industry working. Government fixing problems they created.
NJ had similar law, don’t know if they still do.
n
people no longer employed in the lumber industry
Save a Logger, Eat a Spotted Owl.
Firefly – in my top 10 TV programs. The good ones die young.
The X-Files are coming back again this year. The original was good, but the new is crap.
@Ray, had the same exact scenario play out with me in 1979 as I entered Oregonzo on my way to Tri-Cities WA. They actually did call the country-bumkin Sheriff and I got quite the lecture (came roaring in with lights and sirens, I guess that little town does not get much excitement). The Sheriff Deputy said he was going to let me off with a warning because I was Veteran (still had my close cropped Navy hair), but I had better get them Virginia plates turned into Washington plates soon (at that time WA required new residents to get a vehicle inspection and new plates within 90 days).
@Ray — lol. Reminds me of a quip made many years ago from an old friend living ultra-liberal Santa Cruz, CA: “If your child was dying and the only thing to save him were the squashed bits from a spotted owl, what would you do?”
Um, if my child was dying and puree’d grandpa would save her, I’d be dialing my dad and rev’ing up the blender….
n