Dec 6, Wed, Nick posting–

In the absence of our host, I will open the day.

Continued best wishes to Barbara and Bob. There was a setback but hopefully we will see continued improvement from here. Clearly it will be a longer road than we all hoped.

We remain steadfast supporters, for what that is worth. Know that you are not alone….

n
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It as 29 degrees and windy at 6am when Al took Colin out.

I called the hospital at 6am this morning to check on Bob. There was slight movement on his right side but his blood count had dropped. Frances and I went to the hospital around 9:15. They had given him blood. He responded to pain when the nurse pricked his finger. When I went in and called his name he did open his eyes very briefly. I am back in Sparta and hopefully, if all goes well the rest of today and tonight will stay and Al can go back home.

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59 Responses to Dec 6, Wed, Nick posting–

  1. Nick Flandrey says:

    And on the world stage, the hypocrisy and wailing and gnashing of teeth is exposed for all the world to see.

    It seems that Trump will act on Ol’ Predator In Chief Bill’s declaration that the US embassy to Israel should be located in Jerusalem.

    Apparently this ” risks inflaming violence in an already-tense region” while simultaneously “destroy[ing]s the peace process.” What “peace”? Palestinian terrorists shoot rockets into Israel EVERY DAY.

    “one of the core issues in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “There is no way that there can be talks with the Americans. The peace process is finished. They have already pre-empted the outcome,” said Palestinian official Hanan Ashrawi. “They cannot take us for granted.” — WHAT PEACE? Israel is NEVER gonna give up Jerusalem. There IS NO two state solution.

    —–

    “The sooner the Arab world recognizes Jerusalem as our capital, the sooner we will reach real peace. Real peace that is not predicated on an illusion that we are going to carve up Jerusalem and carve up Israel,” Bennett told The Associated Press on the sidelines of the Jerusalem Post Diplomatic Conference. — sounds about right to me.

    “it is plunging the region and the world into a fire with no end in sight,”” — so what’s really different?

    I also love it when either side remembers to consider the remaining Christians… Didn’t care to think about their feelings on any of the other matters in the area.

    For anyone who thinks this policy is somehow destabilizing, or changes the dynamic of the region, I refer you to the words of the philosopher poet, Warren Zevon- in his song “Send the Envoy” from 1982. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xOoL31VI0k

    Lyrics https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/warrenzevon/theenvoy.html

    35 years and nothing’s changed. So how’s that “decades of American policy in the Middle East” working out?

    nick

    – article – http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-06/declaration-war-trump-jerusalem-decision-sparks-outrage-warning-fire-no-end-sight

  2. DadCooks says:

    Good morning to all and extra special wishes, hopes, and prayers for Bob, Barbara, and OFD.

    Sometimes it is the travails of others that give us a proper perspective. It should also spur us on to do more good works.

    Paul, so sorry to hear about the Schwartzer. Yes, even a cat person can appreciate a good dog and it sounds like you had a great one. Thanks for letting him travel that last mile in his own way.

    Peace, Hope, and Love

  3. Mat Lemmings says:

    Meanwhile here in the UK we debate far more important issues – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-42236608

    Here’s hoping the latter part of the week sees improvement for Bob, OFD and all the rest on here that are falling to pieces or watching their loved ones do so.

  4. nick flandrey says:

    Oh yeah, and Cali is burning again, this time around LA.

    There is some pretty dramatic video. Note that it didn’t stop the driver from continuing on thru it anyway, even though he calls it “the scariest commute of my life.”

    This is really close to LA, and not far from an area where I used to live.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-southern-california-wildfires-live-updates-htmlstory.html

    Lots of folks having to evacuate or die screaming as they burn. Something to keep in mind if your bugout plan is to stay put and be carried out feet first. Also a good reason to have at least some stuff stored off-site. You can get a LOT of stuff in a $25/month storage unit. I’d pick a unit on your most likely ‘get out of town’ route.

    nick

    Added- You can also strip your home of every valuable portable thing in under 15 minutes, if you aren’t coming back. Thieves do it in even less time. If you haven’t already, think about how you would go about it. Start by throwing stuff onto your bed, and scooping it all up in the coverlet. Think it thru, have a plan in mind.

  5. nick flandrey says:

    Please see Barbara’s addition to my original post above for an update…

  6. MrAtoz says:

    Whoopsie! Another Franken accuser and three Dumbocrat wimmenz saying he should resign. I hope he doesn’t and goes down in flames after an ethics investigation. Any more accusers and he’ll have no choice but to resign. Or get a bullet in his noggin.

  7. CowboySlim says:

    “Oh yeah, and Cali is burning again, this time around LA.
    ………
    This is really close to LA, ……..”

    I’m am quite far from the current fires and do not feel threatened yet.

    WRT to health, off to a periodic checkup with my dermatologist.

    My best to RBT, OFD and all our others here.

  8. Greg Norton says:

    Whoopsie! Another Franken accuser and three Dumbocrat wimmenz saying he should resign. I hope he doesn’t and goes down in flames after an ethics investigation. Any more accusers and he’ll have no choice but to resign. Or get a bullet in his noggin.

    Again, Stuart Smalley isn’t going anywhere unless forced out by the voters of MN.

    I find it interesting that Franken is yet another Perkins-Coie client in the Democrat Party, among the first to retain the law firm’s special vote count legal services.

  9. lynn says:

    It is bitterly cold in the Houston area today, 43 F out here in the sticks, “Dreary today and Thursday, but the weekend looks festive for Houston”:
    https://spacecityweather.com/dreary-today-and-thursday-but-the-weekend-looks-festive-for-houston/

    We are supposed to bounce down to 34 F Thursday night. That means lots of run time for my swimming pool circulation system which turns on at 37 F and below. I got the 400,000 btu/hr (gross, probably 325,000 btu/hr net) pool heater fixed, again, just in time for this. Swimming pools are definitely a hole in the ground to burn your money in.

  10. SteveF says:

    the law firm’s special vote count legal services

    By which you mean “getting extra ballots at a discrete printer and marking as the client directs”.

    And they’re not even good at it. It took them, what, three recounts to find enough extra ballots to push the scammer over the top?

  11. nick flandrey says:

    Hmm, so standards based on fraud, self dealing, and bribery are wrong? I’m SHOCKED!

    “We should be eating more fat and less carbohydrates say scientists after large-scale global study found higher death rates in people who eat more carbs

    Saturated fat has traditionally been linked it to an increased risk of heart disease
    But study found people who had a high-carb diet had a 28% higher risk of dying
    By contrast, eating higher levels of fats was not linked to heart disease
    It challenged current guidelines and suggested we need to reduce carbs
    Studies suggest excess carbs can contribute to type 2 diabetes
    Now Swiss experts agree that guidelines on fats and carbs should changed”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5148671/We-eating-fat-carbs-say-scientists.html

    And maybe, just maybe, Dr Atkins was right??

    n

    “What we are suggesting is moderation as opposed to very low and very high intakes of fats and carbohydrates,’ said Mahshid Dehghan from McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.”

    Moderation, who knew?

  12. Greg Norton says:

    It is bitterly cold in the Houston area today, 43 F out here in the sticks

    Bitter? Vantucky Spring!

    Memorial Day at the WA/OR Coast always looks like a North Face catalog shoot.

    My Portland PTSD is kicking in at the office today. Temple/Belton may see flurries tonight.

    I see that it only took Willie Taggert a year to figure out Oregon was a miserable place for a FL native to live and work. We stayed four years. God only knows why.

  13. DadCooks says:

    Not very good news about Bob added to Nick’s opening post.

    Folks, Bob is in really serious condition and we need to be prepared for a new Bob. Barbara is really going to need some support before it gets to the point that she feels helpless.

    My Wife (retired Surgical RN) has been reading about Bob over my shoulder. Her current observation is that Bob has most likely thrown a clot or developed a “bleed” and as they say “stroked out”. It is not time to second guess actions and decisions. We all have to accept how things are and make the best of them.

    So many days without word from OFD is starting to get worrying. I’ll hope no news is good news.

  14. brad says:

    Barbara, wishing you strength to get through this tough time. It’s hard, seeing a loved one in the hospital for so long. Hang in there, we’re all rooting for you and Bob.

  15. brad says:

    @Mat: Well, dress code actually is (or can be) an important issue. Seems like the answer is “when it’s relevant”. A lifeguard should wear a swimsuit at work, but that would hardly be appropriate in a bank.

    Of course, what the article is really trying to work around to is head scarves and burqas. Which is a matter of cultural appropriateness. A European business would be perfectly justified in prohibiting employees from wearing burqas, because they are culturally inappropriate. Head scarves, on the other hand, are by now pretty normal in Europe.

    @Nick: ““We should be eating more fat and less carbohydrates say scientists after large-scale global study found higher death rates in people who eat more carbs”

    Yep, they lied to us all those years. It’s pretty clear that it was intentional, too, bought-and-paid-for by special interests. Once the government recommendations came out, they took on a life of their own.

    After years of having cereal for breakfast, I went back to bacon and eggs a few years ago. Aside from the probable health benefits, I also enjoy my breakfast a hell of a lot more – which likely brings its own benefit.

  16. Ray Thompson says:

    That means lots of run time for my swimming pool circulation system which turns on at 37 F and below

    I shut my pool system down in the middle of November until about mid March. I have never had an issue with freezing. Of course my piping is underground and the pump and filter are in the basement garage. I also put a small electric heater in the garage to keep my plumbing from doing nasty things. I cover the pool and just the water on the cover freeze. Never stays that cold long enough to be a problem.

    The low is supposed to get to 17 in my area on Saturday with mixed precipitation and partial wintery mix. Time for the clods in 4WD to start being (bigger) idiots.

    Bob has most likely thrown a clot or developed a “bleed” and as they say “stroked out”

    My impression was his condition today was due to the issues with “coded” yesterday and the lowering of his body temperature and a partial coma to minimize damage to the brain. I don’t know how long it takes to recover from such a medically induced coma and body cooling. But I have not stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently.

    It still amazes me how quickly it went from just a casual illness requiring a doctor’s visit to a major surgery and major health issues. One day you are moving boxes of food around, the next day in the hospital wired to multiple machines. The casual illness probably saved his life as it forced RBT to go to the doctor.

    It should serve as a reminder to everyone to not take minor events lightly when you are close to, or above 60. Minor events may be the start of something major. Or perhaps there are no really minor events when you are over 60. Get that annual physical, prostate exam, blood tests, colonoscopy, etc. Minor illnesses that don’t recover in the normal period of time deserve immediate attention.

    we need to be prepared for a new Bob

    I too am concerned about the outcome. Will there be any brain damage which affects his ability to think? Will his perspective on life change after the events of the last month? Having “coded” will he have experienced, or have memory of, an event that is close to putting one over the edge? Will there even be a Bob that is close to what we knew? Will prepping become a non-issue and will it just become living for the day and the next day?

    And what about Mr. OFD? There has not been anything from him in the last few days. Hoping his recovery is going well and the lack of his optimistic postings is nothing more than lack of access to a keyboard and some electrons.

  17. Greg Norton says:

    The casual illness probably saved his life as it forced RBT to go to the doctor.

    RBT also had the right doctor in the right place at the right time.

    Medicine in rural areas is an increasingly tough way to make a living.

    Again, thoughts and prayers are with RBT’s household.

    As for OFD, if Xenu is merciful, we will hear from him soon.

    (If that last sentence doesn’t get a response, we need to be concerned.)

  18. lynn says:

    Medicine in rural areas is an increasingly tough way to make a living.

    One of these days, possibly quite soon, we are going to have a national discussion about this. It will not be pleasant.

  19. MrAtoz says:

    Again, Stuart Smalley isn’t going anywhere unless forced out by the voters of MN.

    An update on Drudge says 22+ Dumbo Senators are calling for Franken to resign and it is expected on Thursday. Bye bye. I wonder what dunderhead the MN Gov will appoint after Franken goes down in flames.

  20. lynn says:

    “Microsoft launches ARM-powered Windows 10 PCs with ‘all-day’ battery life”
    https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/5/16737288/microsoft-windows-10-qualcomm-arm-laptops-launch

    “Microsoft has previously shown Photoshop running on an ARM version of Windows 10, and the company has developed a special emulator to run traditional x86 apps on these new devices. These devices look and feel like normal laptops, and will run most of the software you’d expect to see on a laptop. HP and Asus are announcing their devices today, and Lenovo is expected to follow in the coming weeks.”

    Take that Intel !

  21. Ray Thompson says:

    22+ Dumbo Senators are calling for Franken to resign

    Like lemmings running off a cliff. Once one critter calls for resignation the others climb on board to appear they are accomplishing something. It is all re-election fodder so they can state they voted for something that people like and think is important. A snowball effect. Some congress or senate critter does not want to be left out.

  22. lynn says:

    “California Bill in the Works to Banish Gasoline Cars by 2040”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/california-bill-to-banish-gasoline-cars-by-2040-is-in-the-works

    Why not, what could go wrong ?

  23. Ray Thompson says:

    Yep, that drive up the Cajon pass from San Bernardino to Victorville and beyond to that zit on the armpit of the world, Barstow, will really work with electric cars.

  24. lynn says:

    I am surprised that Kalifornia just does not raise the gasoline and diesel tax to $10/gallon.

    Do it for the children !

  25. lynn says:

    It still amazes me how quickly it went from just a casual illness requiring a doctor’s visit to a major surgery and major health issues. One day you are moving boxes of food around, the next day in the hospital wired to multiple machines.

    Our bodies are surprisingly tough yet surprisingly fragile. All single pump systems are subject to damage due to temperature out of range, pressure out of range, low fluid level, etc, etc, etc.

    Also, Bob had very serious surgery. A triple bypass and a heart valve replacement simultaneously. Either one of those is tough on a person. Simultaneously is not good.

  26. dkreck says:

    @lynn I am surprised that Kalifornia just does not raise the gasoline and diesel tax to $10/gallon.

    I wish they would. The reaction would be so severe the republicans might actually be able to win a few offices here.

  27. Greg Norton says:

    One of these days, possibly quite soon, we are going to have a national discussion about this. It will not be pleasant.

    We’re over the “cost of living in rural areas is lower” argument. So are most of my wife’s doctor friends. What else ya got short of enforced servitude?

  28. Al Carnali says:

    “how quickly it went from just a casual illness”

    I’m not sure it was casual illness. Given what we know now it was more likely congestive heart failure. As someone pointed out earlier, the vertigo Bob was experiencing was also cause for concern.

    As bad as things seem right now, I get the impression that Bob’s a pretty tough guy and he might just surprise us in the end.

  29. Greg Norton says:

    Take that Intel !

    I never bet against Chipzilla. Their management does plenty of navel topology studies, but a lot of really smart people still work there.

    The good news for you is that Win32 lives on. Though, I would suggest getting one of those Qualcomm chips and testing your product line as soon as possible.

  30. Al Carnali says:

    Microsoft has flirted with other CPUs in the past but in the end they always seem to come running back to Intel. It’s kind of like Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.

  31. lynn says:

    One of these days, possibly quite soon, we are going to have a national discussion about this. It will not be pleasant.

    We’re over the “cost of living in rural areas” is lower argument. So are most of my wife’s doctor friends. What else ya got short of enforced servitude?

    And you nailed it in one. That national discussion will come shortly after Medicare For All ™ as the doctors slowly ??? quit. For one thing, Medicare For All is going to have to absorb their medical school debt.

    The county hospital in my parents county, Calhoun County, recently hired a new general surgeon. IIRC, the county guaranteed that he would make a minimum of $600K this year and rising each year over the next ten years. This is a county of 22,000+ people.

  32. lynn says:

    I’m not sure it was casual illness. Given what we know now it was more likely congestive heart failure. As someone pointed out earlier, the vertigo Bob was experiencing was also cause for concern.

    Yup. Vertigo is either inner ear or high blood pressure. I had falling down vertigo two days before my heart attack in 2009 and ignored it. I am an idiot.

  33. lynn says:

    The good news for you is that Win32 lives on. Though, I would suggest getting one of those Qualcomm chips and testing your product line as soon as possible.

    Yup. I wonder if ARM chip has some of the Win32 instructions embedded in it ?

    I note that Win64 apps will be supported in the future also on the ARM cpu. But, recompiled, not emulated.

    It is too bad that Microsoft never built a DOS16 and Win16 emulator in x64 Windows. They killed off a lot of software that probably would have worked just fine.

  34. nick flandrey says:

    Hey all. Been driving around all day.

    WRT OFD.. @DAVE we’re getting worried. Time to check in buddy, even if just to say “I’m alive.” I’m not scanning the St Albans online newsrag for obits quite yet, but I don’t think Dave’s been radio silent this long in, well, ever.

    WRT the comedian who figured out where to avoid working, and how to make the real money, NPR is calling it “a national conversation” but I’m calling it a witchhunt and mania. The “tipping point” for Al is this 7th woman, who ALLEGES that 11 YEARS AGO, he tried to kiss her. “Forcibly”. WTF that means. He was a private citizen at that point, not a Senator, and SO F’ing WHAT? NOT A CRIME. I’m no fan of the un-funny man, but this is a witchhunt. Someone’s observation that this is the deep state getting rid of the tools who couldn’t deliver their agenda is looking better every day.

    WRT the other story all over NPR, ‘cuz they hate Israel and LOVE the “palestinians” was Trump’s acknowledgement that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel. It was laugh out loud when the pales-terrorist ambassador to the US said “every president has made this promise during the campaign and none have done it.” CLEARLY they don’t get Trump. They are SHOCKED when a politician does what he said he’d do, and that is funny sh!t right there… T’s spokesman is saying “he made the promise, now he’s done it” (unlike all the rest of the liars with their convenient fiction that the US doesn’t know the capitol of Israel. Only country were our embassy ISN”T in the capitol city, btw.

    They played a great mashup of T and the promises he’s kept in addition to this one, OUT of Paris accord, OUT of TPP, and some others that escape me at the moment.

    I know OFD would be chiming in on this so I’m esp worried.

    I really don’t want more bad news….

    n

  35. lynn says:

    They played a great mashup of T and the promises he’s kept in addition to this one, OUT of Paris accord, OUT of TPP, and some others that escape me at the moment.

    Who is going the build the wall ? The USA !

    Who is going to pay for the wall ? Mexico !

    What kind of judges are we going to put in ? Conservative !

    I cannot remember if Trump made a promise about NAFTA.

    He danced around “free” healthcare for all so that was not a promise.

  36. Ray Thompson says:

    I’m not sure it was casual illness

    Well, I probably should have stated more correctly that RBT treated his initial condition as a casual problem. Only going to the doctor when the symptoms would not disappear.

    I am an idiot.

    So what! You think that makes you special? I could count the number of times I have been an idiot but I don’t have enough appendages, not even naked.

  37. medium wave says:

    WRT OFD.. @DAVE we’re getting worried. Time to check in buddy, even if just to say “I’m alive.” I’m not scanning the St Albans online newsrag for obits quite yet, but I don’t think Dave’s been radio silent this long in, well, ever.

    If all else fails whitepages.com has a link to someone who is most probably Mrs. OFD.

  38. Greg Norton says:

    It is too bad that Microsoft never built a DOS16 and Win16 emulator in x64 Windows. They killed off a lot of software that probably would have worked just fine.

    FreeDos in VirtualBox will run DOS16 software. As for Win16, ArcaNoae supports that API on top of their OS/2 kernel, a combination that is probably more reliable than whatever Microsoft would come up with.

  39. nick flandrey says:

    @medium wave,

    I’m not sure, the addresses don’t resolve to where they should.

    SteveF has an address, IIRC

    Which means he’s cleverly gotten addresses for more than one commenter here…. hmmm.

    n

  40. nick flandrey says:

    @Ray, I’ve had several friends go in for routine or minor complaints and then were told “you’re not leaving here today, you’re headed to surgery so if there is someone you want to call….” Some recovered, too many didn’t.

    Every day above ground is a good day. Even the bad days.

    n

  41. Miles_Teg says:

    August last year I went into the Royal Adelaide Hospital for a routine look at a foot wound. I intended to fly to Melbourne that evening for a short holiday.

    A surgeon saw me and said emphatically “DO NOT GO TO MELBOURNE UNLESS IT’S TO HAVE YOUR FOOT TREATED.”

    I was admitted and a few days later had a toe amputated. Was awake the whole time..

  42. medium wave says:

    SteveF has an address, IIRC

    Now that I think about it, so do I, as well as a valid home phone number*, which might be useful if we can catch someone at home.

    No major hacking involved, just some dogged internet searching.

    *I’ve recently suffered a disk crash of my Linux system and am currently limping along on my ancient W7 system. With a little work I can recover Dave’s info from the Linux disk.

  43. nick flandrey says:

    A toe? The diabetes or accident?

    n

  44. lynn says:

    I was admitted and a few days later had a toe amputated. Was awake the whole time..

    Ouch, ouch, ouch. Sigh, our best medical treatment is still amputation. Back to the point of clear margins so that the flesh can heal.

  45. Miles_Teg says:

    Diabetes probably made it worse. They’d been treating it for two years but it would never completely heal, although it came close twice.

    The toe was okay but they needed to take it off because they needed to chop some skin and flesh nearby and the toe bone would no longer have any protecting skin and flesh.

  46. nick flandrey says:

    @lynn, that address maps to a trailer park, not a house by the bay…

    n

    He had posted a satellite shot of the house and yard at one point.

  47. SteveF says:

    SteveF has an address, IIRC

    Email address only, not physical.

    What else ya got short of enforced servitude?

    Yah, it’s funny how all of the newly-discovered rights — food, clean water, heat or cooling, healthcare, smartphones, cable TV — all involve either taking from those who have or enslaving those who are able. Almost makes you long for the old days, wherein rights merely prevented government from taking your stuff or your freedom.

  48. lynn says:

    84 Cherry St. is the correct address. I am looking at the house on google maps right now. It is the Hobbit House. Plus there is this:
    https://www.bizapedia.com/people/vermont/saint-albans-bay/david-hardy.html

    Oh, I see the problem with that whitepages listing. Dave lives in St. Albans Town, not St. Albans City.

  49. nick flandrey says:

    Gotcha.

    n

  50. medium wave says:

    84 Cherry St. is the correct address. I am looking at the house on google maps right now. It is the Hobbit House.

    Yep. Last summer I sent and he received a “CARE package” of used books at that address.

    Search for

    david r hardy resume vt

    and view the result at slideshare.net to see a couple of phone numbers. The link itself seems to be broken.

    OFD’s business address:

    https://www.bizapedia.com/vt/bayshore-firearms-llc.html

    ISTR OFD mentioning that there was another Dave Hardy near his AO so the SAB address would seem to be a surer bet than the phone numbers.

    If OFD hasn’t checked in by the weekend I’m gonna fire off a missive via snail mail to the home address.

  51. Greg Norton says:

    The county hospital in my parents county, Calhoun County, recently hired a new general surgeon. IIRC, the county guaranteed that he would make a minimum of $600K this year and rising each year over the next ten years. This is a county of 22,000+ people.

    That isn’t an unreasonable amount of money for the patient population, but I’m guessing there were a lot of strings attached if a county government was involved instead of just the hospital.

    My wife’s Prog associate in Vantucky started out on some kind of hospital/county subsidy out in Fredericksburg. I’m not sure what happened exactly, but, within a year, she was conducting an active job search and left before the end of the second year.

    And neither Calhoun County nor Fredericksberg are nearly as backwards as some of the places we saw in WA and OR. The doctor taking care of RBT was in the right place at the right time because he fled an Indian reservation in WA State just two years into one of those loan repayment deals.

    The coming conversation will be really ugly. As much as they can, the people in charge will kick the can down the road. My wife’s job is still effectively open in WA State, with care being delivered instead by two nurse practitioners and the pharmacists at the local Kroger chain.

  52. lynn says:

    That isn’t an unreasonable amount of money for the patient population, but I’m guessing there were a lot of strings attached if a county government was involved instead of just the hospital.

    My dad said that the county, who owns the hospital, is desperate. Victoria, TX is over 30 miles away and there are a dozen chemical plants in the county with several thousand workers. The County has the money but no one wants to move to Port Lavaca. BTW, that was a minimum guarantee, they expect the surgeon to make way more. And the hospital handles his billing which is mostly Medicare / Medicaid.

    with care being delivered instead by two nurse practitioners and the pharmacists at the local Kroger chain

    When I lived in Oklahoma in the 60s, we always went to a health clinic for just about anything. Shots, fever, strep, etc. Except when I broke my right humerus one inch above the elbow in a compound fracture at age 5. That was six weeks in traction in a hospital and at home. Pinning it would have given me a withered arm.

  53. Bill F. says:

    “As bad as things seem right now, I get the impression that Bob’s a pretty tough guy and he might just surprise us in the end.”

    Yes yes – positive thoughts are needed by all right now.

    When Bob gets back to business, I think it will be evident to him that he has created and nurtured an awesome on-line community here.

    This place has been a solid, rational, and consistent community for all of us to visit and exchange comments and thoughts for a long time in internet years – it needs to continue.

  54. medium wave says:

    This place has been a solid, rational, and consistent community for all of us to visit and exchange comments and thoughts for a long time in internet years – it needs to continue.

    Losing RBT so soon after losing Jerry Pournelle would be devastating.

    Who would take their place? 🙁

  55. Bill F. says:

    Totally agree and on all our minds- but too painful to think about and we all hope not a discussion we need in the foreseeable future. I am invoking the power of positive thinking.

    On a lighter note – we had a couple inches of fluffy snow tonight. When I was younger, I would be getting out my skis, but now, I went out to the garage and fired up my snowmobile just to hear the rumble and get ready for the rides I hope we get in this winter.

  56. Bill F. says:

    “If all else fails whitepages.com has a link to someone who is most probably Mrs. OFD.”

    Dang – I entered myself and they had addresses and age right and showed 2 criminal records – I don’t have any (I would remember that). They want money to see them – right!. These interwebs are creepy…

  57. brad says:

    “The county hospital in my parents county, Calhoun County, recently hired a new general surgeon. IIRC, the county guaranteed that he would make a minimum of $600K this year and rising each year over the next ten years. This is a county of 22,000+ people.”

    That’s insane. Switzerland is an expensive country, and approximate salaries for doctors here are:

    Resident: $130k
    GP: $150k to $200k
    Specialist: $300k
    Neurosurgeon: $400k

    If you have ordinary surgeons demanding starting salaries of $600k, well, that’s part of the problem. “No” is a complete sentence.

    Re Trump and Jerusalem: I don’t see the upside for the US in doing this. At the same time, I also never saw the point in arguing about it: If Israel says that’s their capitol, then it’s their freaking capitol. No one else gets a say.

    As far as the Palestinians go: people don’t read their history books. The whole Palestine problem was deliberately created by the Arab nations around Israel, as a way of showing their disapproval of Israel’s existence.

  58. lynn says:

    If you have ordinary surgeons demanding starting salaries of $600k, well, that’s part of the problem. “No” is a complete sentence.

    Most competent surgeons in the inner cities are making over a million dollars per year now. This is reflected in the house prices around the Houston Medical Center where the knockdown 1950s houses are selling for $600K.

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