08:59 – Barbara has posted a report on her trip up to Cape May, New Jersey. She got home yesterday morning about 9:15 a.m., after spending the preceding night at Al’s and Frances’ house in Winston. Colin and I were both delighted to see her return home. In an embarrassing watch-dog moment, the first either of us knew Barbara was home was when she opened the door from the garage and shouted, “Did I sneak up on you?” Colin hadn’t heard her car coming in the drive and pulling into the garage, or even the sound of the garage door going up and coming down.
When I first heard that Charlotte authorities weren’t releasing the video of the shooting, my first thought was that the video must not support their claim that the guy they shot was armed and brandishing his weapon. From reports this morning, it appears that that is in fact the case. Both the Charlotte police chief and mayor have tacitly admitted that the video does not prove their version of what happened. I don’t really doubt they’re telling the truth, but the lack of video evidence is unfortunate. Of course, even if the cops had knowingly shot down an unarmed man, that would not excuse the rioting. There’s never an excuse for rioting.
And I see that Glenn Reynolds over at Instapundit is now in trouble. It started with a tweet he made concerning a woman whose truck was blocked by rioters, who then broke into the back and looted the contents. There’s no doubt that this woman was reasonably in fear for her life. Reynolds tweeted, “Run them down”, which was good advice for anyone faced with such a situation. But the progs were predictably outraged, claiming that Reynolds was advocating going out and running down “protesters” at random. Twitter, who are in fact a bunch of twits, suspended Reynolds’ account, he’s now in trouble with the law school where he’s a professor, and USA Today has suspended his column for a month and required him to post an apology. An apology for what? Giving good advice for anyone driving when a riot breaks out and rioters block their escape?
11:24 – If you’ve just been thinking about laying in some supplies in case things get bad, now would be a very good time to get off your ass and actually do something about it.
The problem with a lot of people is that humans are very good at adapting to a new normal. If you took normal people twenty years ago and magically plopped them down into today’s environment, they’d be horrified at what’s going on. But it’s the old frog-boiling thing. Most people see another riot and just tacitly accept it as the new normal. But it’s not normal, not even close, and it really is time to get off your ass and make some preparations for bad times to come. Yes, there will be quieter times interspersed with the outrages, but the general trend is downward. You need to be in a position to feed and protect your family. Do it now.
His original comment lacks context, and given how many people are in denial about the rioters being protesters I could see misinterpretation.
If rioters are blocking your vehicle and pose a thread to your life, then driving is the only legitimate response. I’d hope they got out of my way. I wouldn’t aim for them, but I wouldn’t risk the lives of family members by stopping.
You’d actually want to try to hit them with one of the front corners of your vehicle. Hitting them dead center (1) may damage your radiator, and (2) may catapult the uc scumbag through your windshield.
Which reminds me of something that happened to a guy I was working with in 1979. He was messing with the girlfriend of a member of the Pagans, a 1%er motorcycle club. One evening he was driving home in his truck and had just started through the Fort Pitt Tunnel when he found himself surrounded by a bunch of bikers that appeared out of nowhere. He immediately started driving offensively and took out a bunch of them. The next morning in the paper there was an item about a massive motorcycle wreck in the Fort Pitt Tunnel.
Reynolds post was accurate, but incredibly short for a lawyer, let alone a law professor.
The real question is what do you do after escaping such a situation? In such a scenario, the mainstream media will suddenly decide to air riot footage. Which of course will be from the angle that paints you in the worst light.
I’m thinking the answer is to hire a competent criminal defense attorney. That’s only slightly better than not driving away though.
Once again the only way to win is not to play the game.
As many have said, here and elsewhere, stay away from cities (and particularly underclass areas in those cities) and stay away from crowds and events. The best answer is not to be there when shit happens.
The stupidest protest was the idiots who some time ago chained themselves to concrete filled 55 galllon drums blocking an Interstate. It would have been really hard to tip the drums over, and almost as difficult to get them rolling, but once you’ve done those two things it isn’t hard to roll them out of your way.
Well, let’s see. There are just under 7.5 gallons per cubic foot, and a cubic foot of typical concrete masses 150 pounds, so a 55-gallon drum full of concrete masses more than 500 kilos. Call it 1,100+ pounds. I don’t think I’d want to chain myself to one of those.
“The stupidest protest was the idiots who some time ago chained themselves to concrete filled 55 galllon drums blocking an Interstate. It would have been really hard to tip the drums over, and almost as difficult to get them rolling, but once you’ve done those two things it isn’t hard to roll them out of your way.”
Some years ago in Brussels, Greenpeace protesters built a brick wall across the entrance to a public building, including in their blockwork lengths of chain to which they attached themselves.
As the temperature that day was significantly below freezing, I would have liberally doused down the whole area with fire hoses, ostensibly to prevent Greenpeace’s spilled mortar from staining the footpath, and left them to their own devices…
Like I said it would be hard to tip over an 1100 pound drum, but with enough angry motorists anything is possible.
all of these protesters are counting on the civility of the masses while attacking the very foundations that support the civility.
No one fucks with moooslims when they are in power because everyone knows that you’ll get the chop.
anyone who blocks a street should EXPECT to get run over.
n
When the civil have had enough of the incivility, a lot of people are going to be shocked.
One of these days these riots are going to happen in the wrong place and some band of white “good ol’ boys” are going to show up to suppress it and as LOT of people of color are going to end up dead. Then, Manson will get his Helter Skelter.
I’m afraid the lid is going to blow off the pot at some point. When that happens, it’s likely to be a bloodbath. I take solace in the fact that there are really only two sides here, one of which is polite and patient, but very well armed, and the other of which is neither polite nor patient, but is almost unarmed.
If/when we start seeing groups of masked white people carrying black rifles and shotguns, things are going to get interesting really fast. It’s just unfortunate that the sides skew so strongly on skin color. Probably most blacks are on the wrong side, but a lot of blacks are on the right side. Most whites are on the right side, but there are plenty of white progs and SJWs. Unfortunately, it’s hard to tell someone’s politics from a hundred yards away, but easy to tell their skin color.
We have a small number of blacks in the Sparta area, but as far as I know most or all of them are on the right side, including James, who lives down the road from us and mows our yard. If things go to hell and we end up with black gang members from the cities trying to invade us, James would be manning the barricades with the rest of us, and no one would think of him and his family as anything but one of us.
This has never been about skin color, other than the obvious fact that criminals and the FSA skew strongly toward dark skins.
I suspect more blacks are on the right side than the wrong side. After all 70% of the
protestersrioters being arrested have out of state ID.70% of the rioters were from outside North Carolina?!?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/who-behind-riots-charlotte-police-says-70-arrested-protesters-had-out-state-ids
The downside of Charlotte being a transportation hub is that easy access allows for rapid deployment of rent-a-mobs. For once, I’m glad Austin-Bergstrom International is a train wreck of an airport and our only freeway is a parking lot at 3PM.
I can’t do anything now, but I do have something scheduled for tomorrow. Also something scheduled for some time next week. I am working on it. Thanks for all the advice and encouragement.
“I take solace in the fact that there are really only two sides here, one of which is polite and patient, but very well armed, and the other of which is neither polite nor patient, but is almost unarmed.”
Unfortunately, the “official” regime is apparently on the wrong side, and for now they have a chit-load of firepower. That is likely to change as circumstances change, however.
From the Unpleasant Facts Department:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/09/23/all-blacked-out/
As one of the first comments says, “…there are no more fucks to give.”
Palate cleanser:
Police are hoping someone can help identify two home invaders. They were caught on camera as a woman in the house shot at them.
“She exercised her right to defend her livelihood and property,” Cpl. Deon Washington with the Gwinnett County Police Department told Channel 2’s Nicole Carr.
You can’t say much about her form, but her tenacity against THREE armed Black thugs speaks volumes. One dead, the other two will be caught.
My prediction for what the good ol’ boy militia will be composed of is a truly diverse group of us fed up “deplorables”. You will see Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians of all genders (male, female, and LGBTQ+++) cooperating as has never been imagined. One only has to look at the rare photos of Trump Campaign Workers. He has achieved a level of real diversity.
Do you have your t-shirt? 😉
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BTW, my wife has decided it is time to get her CCW and start looking for a new pistol that she can handle with her reduced capability right shoulder (IYR I mentioned she broke her shoulder at work a few months ago and has lost >75% use, mostly range of motion and can only lift 5-lbs). Any recommendations?
“…her tenacity against THREE armed Black thugs speaks volumes.”
Wow. She got woke up and hauled ass and took it right TO those fuckers. Hats off! Maybe not the Approved CQB Tactics methodology but it got the job done, din it?
From the Department of Emergency IT Stuff:
https://certification.comptia.org/it-career-news/post/view/2016/09/13/it-crisis-mode-how-mobile-tech-aids-in-emergency-response?utm_source=Marketo&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2016-09-IT-Careers-Newsletter&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTTJOa1pXSTRaRFV5WmpaayIsInQiOiJ6MDlFMVhOR1daSUwrQkZ5WWNOVGNISWdXUWhhZ0hVZXJmdnlxXC9Kc2s0VVMwSERPMUU2KzRMNDBwamZiZ1VKb0NJVnZjUk00ZVwvYm1CTVhRRXA2REpIb1dpdlhYYjlwVGhBNHN2MFwvRVhIZz0ifQ%3D%3D
Yikes, I didn’t realize how long that url is. WTF? Anyway, this is what I mean by setting up network chit before and during SHTF; mesh networking, for example, can be done at a lower level than Cisco rolling in with all the latest gear.
Back vertical. Very sick this am. Must be food poisoning. Whatever is was, “better out than in”.
It’s not about skin color per se. You can see plenty of light skin in Charlotte. They also have the appearance of “useful idiots.” They may in fact be the ‘agents provocateur’ and not idiots at all. They would be unlikely to be seen as anything but prey in many other places, including Ferguson and south Chicago, or LA if the circumstances were different. In fact we saw in Ferguson that some of the useful idiots found out the hard way that the people they were supporting would rather prey on them. l am surprised by the number of whites visible in the Charlotte protests, esp considering the circumstances of the case.
Never the less, poverty crime violence and blackness seem to go together in modern America. Skin color, especially when it comes to large groups, seems to be a useful ‘shorthand’ identifier in this case. I was trying to think of the last time a riot in the USA was composed of primarily white people. I’m unable to come up with anything in modern times.
nick
BTW, my wife has decided it is time to get her CCW …
If she can handle 9mm there are a lot of choices. I use the Glock 26 (3.5″) and I believe Mr. OFD uses the S&W Shield (3″?). Bass Pro has a collection of pretty .380 in all kinds of girly colors, but they run $800 on up for the beauty.
“I was trying to think of the last time a riot in the USA was composed of primarily white people. I’m unable to come up with anything in modern times.”
Dem convention in Chicago, 1968, was probably the last time. And it’s been referred to as a police riot many times over the decades. Basically street battles between cops and rioting demonstrators, instigated per usual by les agents provocateurs, almost always hardcore commie scum. It’s all part of their Long March through Murkan culture and politics, and we’re currently looking at the Murkan version of a nascent ANC virus and burgeoning Tet Offensive. With cell phones and flash mobs and instant vids to the innernet worldwide.
Shield in 9mm, tiny glock 42 or 43, small revolver if she has trouble with the slide, with proper function of a semi-auto. Haven’t shot it, but Ruger’s LCR or something similar.
According to the FBI, most shootings are not a running battle but involve 1 against 2, take only seconds, almost never involve a reload. In other words, pull it out, blast away, everyone either runs or gets hit, incident over.
A riot is obviously different, but I’ve got a feeling that if you start shooting at a riot you’ve already lost. All it can do is open the door for your escape. If you don’t have an escape, you are gonna get hammered eventually.
nick
“…If she can handle 9mm there are a lot of choices. I use the Glock 26 (3.5″) and I believe Mr. OFD uses the S&W Shield (3″?).”
Indeed, the 9mm Shield during warm weather attire. Moving up to the CZ P09 and Glock G40 later. With one or two spare mags in each case.
For a woman or smaller person with reduced dominant hand/arm/shoulder mobility? I’d agree with MrAtoz and recommend a lightweight compact 9mm, plus doing flexibility and strength exercises anyway with her arm and fingers, plus dry-fire practice regularly. The 380-class handguns are gonna weigh nearly the same, have less stopping power and be just as much, if not more, expensive. The Shield runs around $400 on the “street.”
On edit, after x-posting w/Mr. nick: yeah, if she has an issue racking semi-auto pistol slides (and there are tricks she can use to do it easily, plus the Handi-Racker and related devices that make it easier) then maybe a snubby revolver, like my Taurus .357 w/shrouded hammer, which of course also shoots .38 and .38+P, actually preferable to the .357, which has a monster blast/recoil.
Also consider a snubby in .44 Special. They have only 5-round cylinders, but it’s a much better stopper and speed loaders are available.
From the U.S. Geography Department:
http://cis.org/Immigration-Maps/Growth-Immigrant-Population-Counties-1990-2014?inf_contact_key=a459a6c795614d3574869d3234e1c8bdc986975c930407e91d52c0ec5a452e57
Our county up here has evidently seen a decrease in immigrant pop while Chittenden County, next one down, is getting them. As is obvious by a drive around downtown Burlap; mostly Somalis and Bosnian Serbs and musloids. What could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, more attacks on young women. Surprising.
DadCooks wrote:
“BTW, my wife has decided it is time to get her CCW and start looking for a new pistol that she can handle with her reduced capability right shoulder (IYR I mentioned she broke her shoulder at work a few months ago and has lost >75% use, mostly range of motion and can only lift 5-lbs). Any recommendations?”
Sorry to hear about your wife’s injury. Is it permanent?
Is the solution to get a heavier gun or lighter ammo to reduce recoil?
As usual you guys are proving to be a wealth of information for this ol’ know-it-all fart.
I’m sure I have seen the Handi-Racker before but it is in the cobwebs. The site has a good video: http://www.handi-racker.com/
Keep the recommendations and opinions coming. Thanks.
Edit: @Miles_Teg “Sorry to hear about your wife’s injury. Is it permanent?”
How permanent is still uncertain. So far 12-weeks of 2x/week Occupational Therapy have only returned very limited use.
Another idea, Mr. DadCooks, is find a gun store/range/private instructor that has a selection of weapons to try that you like. You also might want to stick with a good private instructor to work with your wife on the mobility and strength issues. I know an excellent instructor, but he lives in Vermont.
Listening to 50 Classical Guitar Masterpieces on my Echo.
I second the suggestion by MrAtoz to locate a good instructor/store that will let her try out different firearms and not be dicks about it.
“I know an excellent instructor, but he lives in Vermont.”
You know more than I do, then. But I’ll be finding out more later as I work my way through a series of NRA classes taught by local instructors, either here or in other New England states, maybe even the Vampire State. MA is a problem right now thanks to their insane fembat AG, worse than the last one, which no one thought was possible. Eventually your humble and obedient servant in northern Vermont will be a certified NRA instructor for pistol, rifle and shotgun, though. It’s just a hassle figuring out schedules and locations.
Someone might ask, gee, with all that mil-spec and cop experience and training, why would I be taking more training now??
1.) Most of my mil-spec time was spent with machine guns and grenade launchers, and then bigger machine guns.
2.) You CAN teach an old dawg new tricks; there are countless testimonies by old dawgs like me who’ve taken BASIC pistol and rifle training RECENTLY and learned all kinds of neat new chit.
3.) Addendum: the only “advantage,” if one could call it that, is that I’ve had people shooting at me and I’ve shot back at them, and I’m still here and they’re not. This could as easily work against me now as for me, though, as the years of PTSD have taught many of us. We have one or two former stone killers in our vets group and they won’t have ANYTHING to do with guns now. And are afraid to. I daresay, however, that if we get a real SHTF scenario, they’ll turn right back into stone killers again. And God help whoever pisses them off.
“Listening to 50 Classical Guitar Masterpieces on my Echo.”
Let me guess; are Andres Segovia, Julian Bream, and Christopher Parkening among them?
And an Echo, too…sniff.
I’m taking the basic handgun training at Front Sight since my own milspec handgun training sucked. I fired rifles and machineguns more than my assigned weapon. I started with a POS .38 that all Aviators got. We never had ammo since the 9mm’s were coming in. I fired the .38 twice in about 10 years. I fired the 9mm about 2-3 times do to non-combat staff jobs, etc. To make up, anytime there was a unit rifle range, I went to fire. I go back to the “full auto” selector days. Yum!
ok, not actually done with the food poisoning.
I got lots of stuff to do today too. This sucks. OR more accurately blows.
n
50 Essential Classical Guitar Masterpieces
Get better soon, Mr. Nick. Drink plenty of Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale.
@DadCooks – re: pistol for wife
My wife had wrist and hand surgery and arthritis so could no longer work the slide of her favorite semi-auto. Tried out a lot of pistols and settled on a Smith & Wesson M&P Bodyguard .38 Special Revolver with CrimsonTrace (built-in laser). It’s very light weight so she can hold on target. Has the lightest double action pull we found. Shrouded trigger so it won’t catch on anything pulled from a pocket or purse. She is very happy with it. Yes, it’s only 38 special and only 5 rounds but in my experience the best gun to carry is the one you are comfortable with.
“50 Essential Classical Guitar Masterpieces”
Oh, I get it; classical pieces done by whatever guitarists, not classical guitarists per se. It’s the instrument, not the musician, got it.
“ok, not actually done with the food poisoning”
As you know, you gotta get it all out before you get well. Watch the dehydration; drink wotta and ginger ale and lay off the five-alarm chili and rancid Budweiser.
What Mr. H. Combs said; if the slide is a problem, a real good revolver like that Smith Bodyguard he describes could be Just The Thing. No snag and if need be, you can shove that right into somebody’s body and pull the trigger, whereas a semi-auto would be problematic for that. Having just five rounds is PROBABLY OK but I’d want a speedloader handy, too. I believe it will also fire .38+P, which is preferable. My Taurus snubby .357 also has a Crimson Trace laser on it but it was an add-on. Works great. Goes bang when you pull the trigger.
Woot! I just got an email that says I might be issued a permit to carry a concealed handgun. If I filled out the application correctly, and my payments and fingerprints have been processed it should arrive in the next 60 days. Assuming I pass the criminal background check. I just got the email today, I was fingerprinted four weeks ago, and I paid the fee four weeks from this coming Monday.
This is taking longer than I anticipated. To top it all off I live in a shall issue state.
“This is taking longer than I anticipated. To top it all off I live in a shall issue state.”
Bureaucracy.
Depends also on the volume of applications suchlike they get. Fingerprints usually go through whatever state LE agency and/or the Feebies.
I’m with RBT on this stuff; we shouldn’t have to mess with any of it. You want a gun of whatever type, you got the money to pay, you get it. Period. Short of absolute raving lunatics or genuine violent criminals and terrorists, obviously. That said, our homegrown terrorist assholes were legit and got guns anyway, as do our gangstas. So other methods must be used for them, again, obviously.
Bureaucracy
You can get a passport faster than CCW. More than bureaucracy, just plain on purpose delaying by LE and Libturdians.
Oh, of course. Goes without saying. I just include that automatically in whatever equation or statement; the bureaucracy is bad enough without that frosting on the cake, so to speak.
And here’s an alleged debate issue:
“EDITOR’S NOTE: The presidential debate commission settled an early flashpoint when Clinton demanded a step-stool at the podium to add height to her 5’4″ frame. Campaign Chairman John Podesta expressed concern that Hillary would be dwarfed by 6’2″ Trump. The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.”
I didn’t realize she was that friggin’ short; what a pig. Trump would need a step stool for ME, lol. And I’d need one for Gronk, if he was running. But at least we’d be in the same atmospheric sphere, not that hellish fog down there around 5’4″.
“I’m with RBT on this stuff; we shouldn’t have to mess with any of it.”
Me too.
From the 2nd Amendment: “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
We have the courts and lawyers to thank for the mess when it comes to guns. Too bad schools no longer teach the meaning and strength of the words “shall not be infringed”. Then again the Constitution has not been taught for more than 5 decades at best.
Time to remind folks that we are all supposed to be members of a “well regulated Militia”. Too bad we have allowed ourselves to become a bunch of well over regulated serfs.
Here in Mississippi all you need is 2 yrs residency and no convictions (and $$$) to get a CCW. Classes are optional. But if you do take the class, you get expanded carry rights including on state property, in court houses, etc.
BTW: Wife loves her S&W Bodyguard revolver. Speed loaders are not an issue with her arthritis. She can’t do anything that takes dexterity with anything approaching speed. I wanted her to carry a semi-auto with one in the chamber so racking the slide wouldn’t be an issue. She refuses to believe that having one in the chamber will not automatically lead to accidental discharge. Stubborn.
Oh yeah. When I was a teen, way back in the 60’s, I spent the summer with my grandparents. Digging through their junk in the attic I found an old weird looking pistol. It was a M1892 Colt Army in .38 long that Grandad brought back from the Spanish American war. It wasn’t in the best shape, pretty worn and there was some slop in the cylinder. I dug up a box of shells, probably 50 years old, and took it down to show my Grandmother. She was happy to see it and told me that she used to be pretty good shot. So one thing led to another and we went out to the pond. She threw a walnut out about 10 yards in the water, pulled the old revolver up, squinted and blew that walnut to bits. She just smiled, handed me the revolver, and went back inside. Show off ….
I think they *should* let Cankles have a stepstool. Imagine her taking a header off that while in her codeine induced fog. I bet they pump her full of multiple drugs to keep the hack in check.
My mom’s dad collected guns, so she shot a lot as a teenager. She particularly enjoyed shooting his 1921 and 1928 Thompson SMGs and his BAR, so I come by it honestly.
The debate will be interesting, to say the least. I won’t be watching it – it’ll be middle of the night here, but I’ll certainly read about it the next morning.
It sounds like the organizers are keeping things as fair as possible. No stool, but a shorter podium – fair compromise. No breaks, so both candidates really have to last for 90 minutes. The remaining million dollar question will be the moderation – will the moderator be neutral, and keep things on track?
As long as I’ve had my domain, it’s been on DreamHost. Since May 2002. Go on and trash my site. I did almost all it with Notepad. No real problems with DH other than a few “stuff happens” events. Support seems a bit “not quite bright” the last few years as the company has grown and as I have learned. At the moment, DH is /almost/ on my shit list.
Earlier this week they “upgraded” the spam filters for mail. I have that turned on for my domain. The next day they upgraded the webmail interface. Uh, yeah, let’s do two big changes in row, that seems logical. To someone.
I liked Squirrel Mail, it was simple but it’s gone. The new program is OK. “Prettier” and you can drag and drop messages from folder to folder. Whatever.
Now I have almost no e-mail in the morning. Six or eight messages instead of fifty.
Logged into webmail and hey, two new folders! “Promotion” and “Social”. Facebook stuff and Yahoo lists go into Social. Everything else is in Promotion. Yeah, I do delete most of it unread. But it’s all crap I subscribed to.
I submitted a support ticket:
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> > Hi Dreamfolks,
> >
> > I get it, things change. New and improved spam filters and a new
> > webmail interface. And all of a sudden I’m getting maybe 6 messages
> > in the morning and not 30-40. I kinda liked the Squirrel, just
> > saying. I have two questions.
> >
> > Do the spam/whitelist filters still work with the new webmail? I
> > think the answer is yes, but….
Spam filtering is not working 100% right now, due to the new system is
propagating the old whitelist/blacklists you have set up. If they are
still not working after 48 hours, please let us know which ones
specifically are not working and we will further investigate for you!
> > I might be looking right at the answer but how do I make everything
> > go to my Inbox? Yes, I can see that the Social and Promotion
> > filtering can be useful but I’d rather let Thunderbird handle it on
> > my desktop.
I do apologize for the delay in getting back to you! We had an increase
in support volume, which is causing delays in getting back to each
request. Sorry about that!
I apologize for the inconvenience! In order to cut down on the amount of
incoming sales messages to your inbox, the new spam filtering sets up 2
additional IMAP folders, Social and Promotions. This is to have important
emails that were specifically written to you, to be easily accessible in
your inbox (and for you to not have to go through commercial messages to
view them). The new system is designed to help make accessing important
emails that may be missed due to your inbox being overwhelmed with all
kinds of emails. At this time, these folders cannot be disabled (but may
be something we can change at a later date).
If there is anything else you need help with, please let me know! Thanks!
Have a great day!
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Maybe I asked the wrong question. Thunderbird does POP. Now I have to log into webmail to move mail into the Inbox? Yes, I can do the moving on my Kindle or phone, they do IMAP. Drag and drop on a little touch screen is so so awesome, right? Why should I need to do this at all?
I would like to get mail from my freakin’ bank in my Inbox. And insurance company. And a few more….
I’ll give this some time to sort out and if it doesn’t, I’ll turn the spam filter off to see what happens.
“BTW, my wife has decided it is time to get her CCW and start looking for a new pistol that she can handle with her reduced capability right shoulder … any recommendations?”
I’d be looking carefully at a 4″ barrel medium-frame revolver (such as the S&W K or L frame models), since there is little need for effort from the right hand/shoulder, unlike racking a pistol slide. The manual of arms for a revolver is extremely simple, too – it can be taught and learned in a few minutes.
A Smith & Wesson Model 64 in .38spl +P is an ideal carry gun, for example, or look at Models 10, 66, 67, and 686. A .38/.357 gun gives extra versatility in ammunition choices. A .44 Special (Mod. 69) would have better stopping power, but might be too much for weak hands. Remember that it is easy and cheap to exchange or to modify the grips of revolvers to get something that will fit her hands comfortably. Ladies generally seem to find round-butt S&W revolvers easier to manage than square-butt ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee9K960aBC0
Avoid very small/light revolvers (or pistols), as they actually require considerable hand/arm strength for proper control when shooting. Snubby revolvers are tools for experts, and only last-ditch weapons for ordinary folk.
If it must be a pistol, and if she can handle the 9mm cartridge, a Browning High Power with thin grips and a rowell hammer is an excellent lady’s pistol.
The Beretta Tomcat is a viable pistol for those with little hand strength, because it has a tip-up, rather than a slide, action. A Walther PP or PPK requires good technique, but not much strength.
If all else is impossible for her, look for a good used Colt Huntsman .22 pistol – I have yet to meet a lady who couldn’t operate one of those, and I have taught many female shooters or all ages and strengths. Any gun is better than no gun. Don’t rule out a .22lr or .22 Magnum revolver either; some can carry eight rounds in the cylinder, which is no joke.
Have your wife look at http://www.corneredcat.com/contents/ to get herself familiar with the basics before definitively selecting a weapon. Ask about and see if you can find an instructor or range with a selction of guns for her to try.
I think they *should* let Cankles have a stepstool. Imagine her taking a header off that while in her codeine induced fog. I bet they pump her full of multiple drugs to keep the hack in check.
If I was a member of the Trump team, I would ask to examine that footstool very carefully. Remember the “couch” Steve Jobs had on stage to introduce the iPad?
I could buy a handgun in my state without the concealed carry permit. I haven’t gone ahead and bought one for three reasons. I wish to give She Who Must Be Obeyed time to get used to having a shotgun in the house, I want to concentrate on becoming more familiar with the shotgun and in my state having a loaded handgun in the passenger compartment of a vehicle is carrying a concealed weapon. One of our vehicles does not have a trunk, and the other has a trunk accessible from the passenger compartment.
“She refuses to believe that having one in the chamber will not automatically lead to accidental discharge. Stubborn.”
Right there is me and my Glock.
Yeah, I have to shove in that thing full of .40 S&W hollow points in and pull the slide. (and don’t store them w/ the full 14, the plastic swells/warps and you can’t get them into the gun) I’m good. Yes, I have read that Glocks are “safe” with the double trigger thing but I’d really like to have an extra off switch. I’ve been told I’m stupid. Whatever.
Anyway, it fits either hand like it’s part of my arm. Beer and soda cans fear me.
I have an old-ish .22 pistol. Made in Italy? You have to pull the hammer back for each shot. Works great for shooting racoons in the “live trap” or snake shot in the chook coop. The safety is a piece that swings into between the hammer and firing pin. Very visual. It feels safe. As safe as a gun can be.
I have a Henry .22 lever action. It’s /real/ pretty. Got it for xmas a couple of years ago. Too cold to practice at the time. Come Spring, a tree rat was in the pear tree. First shot ever caused a dead squirrel. Err, and then a happy dog having a crunchy snack, under the house. Gotta pull the lever before shooting a tree rat in the pear tree.
I’m a leave it on a empty chamber guy. Or idiot guy. Your call. I figure that if I don’t have time to cock it I’m already dead. Meanwhile, while life and shit is happening, if I drop it or fumble it getting it ready to shoot, I’m not firing by accident.
Maybe Trump should just have to be on his knees.
“The remaining million dollar question will be the moderation – will the moderator be neutral, and keep things on track?”
Good one!
Mr. brad, the comedian. Hey, keep your day job!
I’m not gonna bother messing with the tee-vee and moving the chair around to watch this mess; it isn’t up to the level of me watching NFL games by a long shot. But I will see if one of the networks streams it, for laffs.
Given that she seems to have trouble of some sort every time she’s in public yakking or walking for more than a few minutes lately, it will be interesting to see how she manages 90 minutes straight. If I was Trump I’d make a big show of deferring to her and rushing to help with water and tissues, etc. Allow a few bathroom breaks, chit like that. While she’s in the bathroom he could tell jokes and kid around with the audience and moderators.
Who do you want negotiating with Prince Vlad or the shitbirds in Brussels or the Ukraine? A fugly little batshit crone who chokes, coughs, passes out, falls, spews green shit, while her eyes bounce around like Marty Feldman’s? Or a burly 6’2″ bugger with a full head of hair and commanding voice/presence?
Right there is me and my Glock.
I don’t chamber a round, either (I do carry with the mag in). I’m not good enough for “my finger is my safety”. If I’m ever in a situation where chambering a round makes a difference, I deserve it for getting in that situation in the first place. If I draw, I’ve practiced “racking” to not make much difference. Of course, you never know when you take a trip to West World.
Advice from a quiche eatin’, Barney Fife, aviator.
Who do you want negotiating with Prince Vlad or the shitbirds in Brussels or the Ukraine?
Coffin Cankles won’t negotiate, she’ll just launch Vipers!
I’ll be on the way to Boston, Monday, and arrive around 4pm. I’ll read commentary on townhall or something like that.
If you like a safety on a modern striker fired pistol, the Shield has one. I use it when I’m in a bouncy house with the kids. Otherwise, I’m eliminating every additional step I can. If you have to use it, you REALLY need it now. Watch some episodes of “Best Defense” on Outdoor Life channel or their web page. They do several versions of each scenario, and the scenarios are based on RL events. They are QUICK. I can see storing your bedside table gun that way, or the safe queens, but not your carry pistol.
Look on youtube for video of shootings. They are QUICK. If you insist, get a modern pistol with an manual safety that is designed for daily carry. At least sweeping the safety can be drilled in and only takes one hand.
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lol! Now that Cruz is “cucking” for tRump, will it bring in anymore votes? I wonder what tRump promised him in return?
Fingerprints, DNA and blood on the Charlotte guy’s gun. I thought all the BLM’ers said there was no gun at all? Wasn’t he a convicted felon, too?
” Wasn’t he a convicted felon, too?”
And shot by a black cop, which the MSM moved heaven and earth to “black out.”
“I’ll be on the way to Boston, Monday, and arrive around 4pm. I’ll read commentary on townhall or something like that.”
I’ll be on the way back from the VA Med Center in beeyooteeful White River Junction, VT to pick up Mrs. OFD in Montpeculiar from her first day’s gig there, and then home again, home again, jiggety-jog. Hey, don’t forget to check out the Isabella Stewart Museum if you get a chance and if y’all dig that sorta thing. If not, check out the New England Aquarium or the old State House or the U.S.S. Constitution, Old Ironsides. Or, if none of that appeals to ya, and ya like excitement, drive around Southie or Charlestown shouting out anti-Irish stuff from the windows. Or anti-Afrikan stuff on Blue Hill Ave in Roxbury.
OFD, you might be interested in a BBC podcast covering, inter alia, medieval manuscripts.
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p048m6t6.mp3
The manuscripts part starts about 15 minutes in.
I don’t know if that’s a persistent link. If it doesn’t work, go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02nrvk3/episodes/downloads and get the episode titled “Free Thinking: Medieval Manuscripts. Emma Donoghue.”
Thanks much, Mr. SteveF; I simply clicked on it via “open new tab” and saved it automagically here on Mint 18 to listen to later. Will also check that bbc link for any others of interest.
My original interest in medieval studies was, in fact, to apply contemporary computer tools for the textual analysis of medieval and early Renaissance manuscripts. I would have happily been ensconced alone in some dingy but well-lit library stack somewhere on this vocation for decades. Such was not to be, however, and a lotta funny chit happens to us and our dumbass plans along the way.
The best-laid plans o’ mice an’ men gang aft into a fuckin’ snap-trap.
My original interest in medieval studies was, in fact, to apply contemporary computer tools for the textual analysis of medieval and early Renaissance manuscripts.
Computers Decipher Burnt Scroll Found in Ancient Holy Ark
Some 1,500 years ago, a fire raged through an oasis on the Dead Sea’s western shore, destroying a thriving Jewish community that had lived there for centuries. Yet amid the conflagration, the town synagogue’s Holy Ark survived—housing a fragmented animal-skin scroll that the searing heat essentially converted into charcoal.
For decades, the Israel Antiquities Authority guarded the document, known as the Ein Gedi Scroll, careful not to open it for fear that the brittle text would shatter to pieces. But last year, scientists announced that they had scanned, virtually unrolled, and translated the scroll’s hidden verses—a feat now formally described in the scientific literature.
“I’ve worked for two decades now with technology and damaged materials, and over that time, I’ve become convinced that this day was possible,” says study author Brent Seales of the University of Kentucky, who specializes in digitally reconstructing damaged texts. “The Ein Gedi Scroll is proof positive that we can potentially recover the whole text from damaged material, not just a few letters or a speculative word.”
As a long time admirer of Jeff Cooper, I always carry “Cocked & Locked”. Swipe the safety off as I pull the weapon and ready to rock & roll. But I still have a safety. In a world of Glocks, if a bad guy takes my weapon (God forbid) the safety may buy me the seconds I need to recover the gun or flee.
“…gang aft into a fuckin’ snap-trap.”
On multiple levels with me over decades. Some dumbasses never learn.
I am familiar with that story, MrAtoz; truly amazing to behold. My own interest was less exciting. The technology I would have used was that extant during the late 1980s and early 1990s.
From The Emperor’s New Clothes Department:
http://fredoneverything.org/an-obsolescent-military-bombing-everything-gaining-nothing/
Somebody in Mordor needs to get a fucking clue. The party is gonna be over soon, one way or the other and the perfumed princes of the Pentagon can’t keep it going forever.
When is this commie piece of shit gonna finally croak and go off to Hell?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22/who-behind-riots-charlotte-police-says-70-arrested-protesters-had-out-state-ids
Dr. Evil gonna croak soon, so he’s grooming his son. Commie in training.
Outlyer recommendation for low recoil self defense pistol: KeTec PMR30. A semi-auto pistol in .22MAG with a 30 round magazine. .22 magnum isn’t .44 magnum but the recoil is low and at some point people will stop what they’re doing if they are shot multiple times.
@R – I have a personal aversion to 22 Mag. One of the first handguns I owned was a Ruger Single Six revolver with interchangeable .22 and .22 Mag cylinders. One day I was doing some target practice on the farm, using the feed shed as a backstop. It had 1/2 plywood walls with exterior cladding if I recall. I put up my targets on a plywood board standing against the shed. The .22 LR went through the target backing but were easily stopped y the exterior cladding. Switched out to 22 Mag cylinder. OH MY GOSH … the report was so LOUD and SHARP it really hurt my head. (Only sissies used hearing protection way back then and I weren’t no sissie) When I checked the target I found the 22 Mag had gone through the plywood backstop – and through BOTH walls of the shed. Scared me. I never fired the 22 Mag since. And I developed an aversion to the caliber. You can practice with hearing protection but when you have to pull down in real life the painfully sharp overpressure might make you wince or delay a second shot.
Yeah, the .22WMR is a snappy little cartridge and could conceivably be used in self-defense in a small concealable handgun. A couple of those in the solar plexus and/or face might just do the trick. Before the big lake flood up here, and the various boat accidents, I had that same Ruger Single-Six convertible SA revolver and was using it for Mrs. OFD’s basic familiarity/training intermittently. I also may have had a Savage semi-auto rifle in that caliber, which would benefit from a decent rimfire scope.
Some people advocate keeping a pair of ear plugs, like those minimal headset models, handy, in your vehicle or by your bedside so you can theoretically slide those on just before engaging in defensive fire exercises. Because gunfire inside a building is LOUD. Hard to say how this might work unless you’ve actually had to do this caper, though. I dunno as fumbling around for those while you’re also trying to manage your firearm and light in the dark while half-asleep is gonna fly.
Somewhere* I recently read advice that if you’re caught in a violent mob, even a little .22 in the lung will take the fight out of most people.
That sounds reasonable but I don’t have any experience with anything like that. In both military and civilian life, if I intended to hurt someone beyond a broken arm, I intended for him to be dead by the time I left the scene. I didn’t want heroic ambulance crews pulling off miracles at taxpayer expense. Yes, I know that in the military realm, it’s considered better to injure an opposing soldier than to wound him, but yah, fuck that. Besides, I’m not sure that the irregular forces of my experience would have bothered with trying to save their comrades or been bothered by cutting their throats.
One drawback to a .22 magnum is that a large muzzle opening will deter a lot of people without a shot being fired. .22s don’t have quite the visual impact. On the other hand, a concealable .22 that you’re carrying is better than a visually impressive .45 that you couldn’t keep with you. Also, I don’t know if “protestors” in the middle of a “protest” would take the time to be overawed no matter what you pointed at them.
* Might have been here. I haven’t been sleeping well and I’m caffeine deficient and I can feel my brain clotting up even as we speak.
I am really appreciating the discussion/advice/opinions regarding pistols. Sure is stirring up the cobwebs of my mind.
WRT to effectiveness of a single shot, no matter the caliber: 99.9% of today’s crap-bags are well hopped-up on something (meth, “bath” salts, and horse the main ones around here) so even shots directly to the heart or between the eyes barely slow the dirt-bags down.
I well understand the reason for nasty wounding in “war”, but the crap we have going on here calls for no survivors who will suck off our medical and judicial system forever.
My goto firearms dealer is the only one in the area who has an “in-house” range. I do try to hit the range monthly, but wife has not been in a couple of years. I called and set up an appointment for next week to test drive some of your recommendations.
Excellent! Let us know how it goes.
“I found the 22 Mag had gone through the plywood backstop – and through BOTH walls of the shed.”
.22 Mag is a nasty and effective litle cartridge. It’s not known as a poachers’ delight for nothing. A properly placed heart shot will dispatch even quite large ungulates with no fuss at all, and the bullet generally doesn’t overpenetrate. The .22 Mag is used to cull fallow deer in parks for that reason, as fallow are inclined to stand in groups, so overpenetration would wound a bystanding animal.
IIRC, the Secret Service Presidential security people carry FN “Five-Seven” weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven#Users
Their 5.7x28mm cartridge is basically a souped-up .22Mag, and is sufficiently effective on bipeds that it has actually been forbidden for civilian use in these here parts. If Mrs DadCooks could manipulate a 57 pistol, which are available in the US, it would not be a bad choice by any means, except that the ammunition might be less than ubiquitous.
“My goto firearms dealer is the only one in the area who has an “in-house” range.”
That sounds very promising. Enjoy your research trip!
“I also may have had a Savage semi-auto rifle in that caliber, which would benefit from a decent rimfire scope.”
I don’t have a Savage in .22Mag, but I do have, and very much like, a semi-auto Brno Model ZKM-611. Super accurate, and very handy. If you’re looking for a decent rimfire scope at the right price, telephone http://www.Cameralandny.com, and ask Neil or Doug to fix you up with an ex-demo Vortex “Crossfire” 2-7x rimfire scope. They are great guys to deal with.
Thanks for the optics link, Mr. Denis.
“…it would not be a bad choice by any means, except that the ammunition might be less than ubiquitous.”
The 5.7×28 would be nifty to have, however a quick scan of luckygunner and surplus ammo came up goose eggs.
“Thanks for the optics link…”
My pleasure. I have no interest in cameralandny.com other than being a very satisfied repeat customer. I recommend those Vortex 2-7 scopes because I have a couple and find them outstanding value for money. I own Zeiss, S&B, Minox and other high-end scopes too, but the Vortex is unbeatable for the price. Pentax is another good brand for workmanlike scopes that won’t break the bank, but Cameraland don’t seem to carry them any more.
5.7 ammo supplies…. I suppose asking the Secret Service for a few of the rounds you already paid for would not go down well?
By the way, if anybody currently needs a decent inexpensive scope for a centrefire rifle, another excellent choice is on special offer at the moment at Midway USA:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/746570/simmons-whitetail-classic-rifle-scope-65-20x-50mm-adjustable-objective-matte
A usable 6.5-20x 50mm 1″ tube scope for 120 USD delivered (less than half the usual price). You couldn’t beat that with a stick. I have a couple of them, and they are superb value for the money.
My optics plans include at least two or three Vortex scopes; excellent value for money paid, both rimfire and centerfire.
“I suppose asking the Secret Service for a few of the rounds you already paid for would not go down well?”
You would suppose correctly. However, I’m of an age where I don’t much give a chit anymore and next time I bump into one or more of them, I’ll ask about it.
Question about scopes: if you’re hunting the American Wallyhog, should you use a 0.1-0.5X scope to reduce the apparent size to something graspable by the human mind?
For American Wallyhog, I would suggest a very bright red dot sight with at least a 50 MOA dot, in the hope the dot would obscure all view of the target, thus protecting both the operator’s eyesight and his psyche. If that fails, a blast to the operator’s own eyes with an LED FLASHLIGHT might be enough to induce protective temporary blindness.
“…with an LED FLASHLIGHT…”
Oh boy, you would have to mention FLASHLIGHTS…
With blindness being preferable to BROADENING one’s mind.
So that’s scopes; what about calibers? I maintain that a well-placed shot with the venerable .22WMR will work on most dollymops. We’d need to kick it up a few notches, though, for the North American Wallyhog, depending on girth and density. I am given to understand that most of them are pretty dense.
Don’t tell anyone, but I have a couple of dozen 0.1-gauge shotguns that should be ideal for that.