Wednesday, 3 August 2016- Traveling and the prepper, some thoughts

By on August 3rd, 2016 in guest post - nick, prepping

I can say from experience that when you are an active prepper, travel and vacation are much more stressful than when you are blissfully unaware. This is especially true when traveling by air and with your family.

The amount and type of preps you can carry/use are greatly limited, and I have to just accept that I’m not really going to be as prepared as I’d like to be. It usually means NOT carrying a GHB, sometimes not having access to a firearm, being far from your preps, and other stressful limitations. The only way I can do it is to compartmentalize mentally, and accept that there are times and events that I can’t prep for adequately.

That said, there are things you can do.

Whenever possible, travel with at least a pistol and an extra mag. Arm up as soon as you can after arrival. (Or don’t travel by air.) If you can’t carry, add another knife. You can CHECK your pistol/s and/or rifle/s when you arrive at the airport. You just ask for a firearms declaration form at the baggage check in counter. At least here in TX, that doesn’t even get you a second look. Of course, read and understand the policy for your airline. It will be on their website. Some people recommend printing the policy and carrying it in case you run into a clerk that doesn’t know the rules, but I’ve never had issues. FOLLOW THE RULES TO THE LETTER and you should be fine. One thing you will need is a locking box. I use this:

in a laptop sleeve, locked inside my luggage. You should also research the laws in your destination state and city regarding ownership, carry, and any other restrictions. There is a lot of info available online, just look at the dates of any posts and make sure you are looking at a current article.

My blow out kit moves from my range bag to my carryon bag for air travel. Given recent events, it just seems prudent to have upgraded medical capability with you at the airport. Trauma shears are allowed again. Look at the TSA website for details on blade length.

Consider using a backpack/bookbag for a carryon. Hands free is critical for self defense and movement. DON’T carry anything with molle or camo patterns unless you want everyone to notice you. This is especially true for overseas travel. I use an older Targus laptop bag. It has a ton of pockets and compartments, is well padded and sturdily made, was cheap, and isn’t at all ‘tacticool’.

Carry a nice metal flashlight that can work as a weapon. I love my Pelican 1920, you might like something different.

Think about getting a tactical pen, or whatever alternative weapons you can carry and use. A simple metal mechanical pencil or metal pen can make an effective weapon when nothing else is available.

My ‘boo boo kit’ (my altoids tin “everyday” survival kit) goes with me everywhere the kids go. It has basic medical and comfort items. It can’t go in carry on luggage because it includes a Leatherman micra and a Gerber STL 2.0 knife but my blowout kit has bandaids and minor first aid in it, so I put the ‘boo boo kit’ in a checked bag. I have an ‘airplane’ boo boo kit that doesn’t include the multitool and knife, but my wife usually carries that.

My checked toiletries bag includes a good multitool, spare knives, antibiotics and anti-diarrheal meds, as well as normal OTC meds. I have more OTC anti-diarrheal and some other handy OTC meds in my carry on bag in a little pouch.

Having a couple of energy bars in your carryon is smart. Having a couple more in your checked bag is even smarter. Distribute them throughout your group, but have at least one bar per person with you.

Keep your eyes open, and your threat condition up.

Look at a map, know where you are and have at least a basic idea of where you might go.

Look at where you are staying, identify exits, look at the structure, look around when arriving to see the area and neighborhood.

If you are going to be someplace longer than a day or two, see if you have friends or relations nearby. Or friends of friends. Yes, just showing up somewhere is WAY less than optimal for all involved, but it’s better than NOT having a plan or a (possibly) friendly face at the end of the trip.

Some online folks claim to assemble a GHB at their destination whenever they are away from home for any length of time. Some of the articles were very interesting especially looking at what you could get quickly and cheaply from stores or from yardsales. It’s worth thinking about. What would you grab and where from if you had to equip yourself in a hurry?

Try out this thought experiment:

What I can put together just from stuff in my bags?

For me, it’s pocket knives, multitool, energy bars, bottled water, a pretty good first aid kit, OTC drug bag, water resistant outerwear-long pants and a pullover, several flashlights, extra batteries, ham radio HT with listen only on public service bands, ziplok baggies, cable ties (zip ties), a couple of binder clips, chargers, a lightweight extension cord, and two ereaders (entertainment and distraction for the kids).

What can I grab from the hotel room?

Typically you will find lightweight blankets, pillow cases, bottled water, anything from the mini-bar, any electrical cords and string from blinds, small hand towels, plastic bags from trash cans, soap, and improvised weapons from chair legs, ironing board, or other furniture.

Speaking of staying in hotels, take a minute to find the fire stairs and note which direction they are from your room. If the door isn’t alarmed, open it and see if you can get back in from the stairwell, or if the door locks behind you. An advanced tip is to locate the service elevator. It’s usually behind a plain or ‘staff’ door, behind the public elevator. If there are multiple elevator banks, it’s often behind the one furthest from the front desk. I’ve never run into one that needed a special key or key card to operate and it just might get you down and out in a hurry if needed. Check if it needs a key card to call it to your floor. Public elevators usually need a key card for the ‘special’ floors, but the service elevator usually counts on security by obscurity. The service elevator will also either go to lower floors or open the back door to access utility spaces. They are usually not crowded, and may be a faster way out than the front exit.
Casinos are a special case. Generally, casinos take access control and security VERY seriously. Don’t mess about in a casino.

Don’t forgot the most important travel prep– cash and other convertibles…

CASH is king. An event like 9-11 will take out pretty much all landline comms in the area. That means ATMs, POS machines, and credit card terminals will stop working. As soon as you know a major event has happened, find a cash machine and max withdraw on every card in your wallet. Screw the fees for cash advancing from a credit card, you will need the cash. You can always put it back if you don’t use it. If you are accustom to using cards for everything, at a minimum be sure you have cash advance activated on your cards and know how to use them.

CASH is king. Have some on you. You should have at least $100 in $20s, several hundreds if you can afford it. Distribute it throughout your stuff, so you can’t lose it all at once if you have a ‘misadventure.’

While cash is king, having some other easily convertible valuables on you is a good idea too. This is what that stainless steel Rolex watch is for. It’s your border crossing bribe, your last seat on the last flight out, your taxi ride to the border, your ‘get out of dodge’ money. A genuine Rolex is widely recognized and widely exchangeable for cash. Even in America, any pawnshop in the country will give you cash for a Rolex. Anyone routinely traveling overseas should consider a plain Rolex, and it’s a fairly unobtrusive and useful prep here.

Since I don’t have a Rolex, I carry a few small gold coins. They are a bit harder to convert, but if you have any time at all, there are LOTS of places to do so. As part of prepping, and USING your preps, take some time and go to a pawn shop, or ‘cash for gold’ place and see what it’s all about. At the very least, read about it online. You’ve already got PMs as part of your preps, carry a few with you when traveling. Smaller coins are preferable to bigger ones. Carrying a couple of gold chains might be a good choice too, but they will be harder to convert to cash anywhere other than a ‘cash for gold’ shop, or pawnshop.

Travel is usually stressful enough, even without the added concerns that prepping brings. Take a few minutes, do what you can, and then accept that it isn’t optimal, but it’s the best you can do under the circumstances. Use your most important tool, your mind, and stay aware, but don’t let your concerns spoil family time on your vacation. It’s possible to find the balance.

nick

17 Comments and discussion on "Wednesday, 3 August 2016- Traveling and the prepper, some thoughts"

  1. lynn says:

    How about traveling through places like New York ? My parents just went to Albany for the music festivals and the last thing my Dad did is hand me his carry gun. He takes that gun everywhere! But not New York state.

  2. MrAtoz says:

    Yup, avoid NY for carry.

  3. Nick Flandrey says:

    Yes, and MA and CT.

    n

  4. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Yup, avoid NY.

    FIFY.

  5. Dennis says:

    As a federal employee working on a military base, I’m in the position of not being able to carry almost any type of weapon; that’s where scrutiny of the directives and imagination come into play. The tactical pens, strong bags full of change (sap -ish), etc. are okay for my EDC bag, with baseball bats and wasp spray for the vehicle. Also, being MORE observant with immediate surroundings. Finally, gotta use the #1 weapon we all have – the BRAIN!!

  6. lynn says:

    https://www.amazon.com/Pelican-1920-LED-Flashlight-Black/dp/B005OLYVS2/

    You can use this as a weapon ? It is so small that it takes two AAA batteries. My Fenix E21 is much heavier. And totally not available anymore, I have given 30 or 40 of these as Christmas presents.

  7. lynn says:

    Yup, avoid NY for carry.

    Yes, and MA and CT.

    Aren't NJ, CA, and IL in that list also ?

  8. Nick Flandrey says:

    @lynn, yup. It’s the same size as a kubaton, or a tactical pen and has a nice aluminum body. It’s not pointy, but it will still concentrate the force of the strike

    @lynn, add those states too…

    n

  9. Dave Hardy says:

    Avoid the listed states, but hey sportsfans, Bienvenue Vermont!

  10. lynn says:

    Cheap water filtration device for your GHB ?
    https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/

    I shudder to think about walking home from any airport in the USA. Just because you can get a working car does not mean that the gasoline distribution system will be up and running.

    There is a better water filter for $90
    https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP191-Purifier-Assembly/dp/B0051HHNJ8/

  11. lynn says:

    @Bob, one thing that would be good here is cost estimates on various preps. Building a Get Home Bag, stocking food in various forms, stocking water, etc.

  12. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    I’m not sure how to estimate costs since the specific items can vary so much.

  13. lynn says:

    I’m not sure how to estimate costs since the specific items can vary so much.

    Some of us here might have opinions on costs. The really big variable is personal time. Some people might prefer to repackage flour, beans, rice, and such. I prefer to just buy the #10 Auguson cans and call it done.

    The same thing on water. Some people might prefer reuse containers. I prefer to purchase 24 bottle cases. I wonder what the cost difference is.

    Plus costs of storage racks, and space in your home and offsite storage. My offsite storage is “free” since I own the building.

  14. Robert Bruce Thompson says:

    Oh, yeah. I make that point. We’re repackaging just so we’ve done it. But I have a metric boatload of #10 cans from the LDS Home Storage Center and Augason Farms.

    Which is fine. I want to be able to feed the five of us (counting Colin) for at least a year, and I want to have lots of extra bulk staples put back to make sure we can feed friends and neighbors as well. Bonnie, our elderly next-door neighbor, has a decent amount of rice and beans. She says if things get bad she won’t starve, although she won’t much enjoy mealtimes. I have no idea about Vickie and Gill, our other next-door neighbors. They may have nothing, or they may have a massive pantry. They do have kids and grandkids locally, and there’s just no way that Barbara and I would refuse to help them if they needed it.

    I suspect that food wouldn’t be too much of a problem up here post-SHTF, but I don’t know for sure. What I do know for sure is that a 50-pound bag of flour costs about $12 at Costco, and if the SHTF, I’d rather it be here than in the Winston Costco.

  15. Nick Flandrey says:

    @lynn, you are talking about the quality triangle, or depending on what industry you are in, the ‘production triangle.’

    Draw a triangle. At each vertex write a word, good, fast, cheap.

    Underneath write “pick any TWO.”

    I have described (in repetitive detail 😛 ) how I trade time for money (good and cheap.)

    It sounds like you trade money for time (good and fast.)

    Note that fast and cheap won’t be good!

    Depending on what approach you take, you’re “typical” costs will be wildly different.

    That said, there might be some value in comparing the two. I try, (with my repetitive details) to demonstrate that prepping doesn’t have to take a lot of money. The flip side is that I don’t get exactly what I might want, exactly when I might want it. I DO sometimes buy new, and right now, and I usually consider that a “panic buy.” Most of my ebola preps fell into that category. After the Rodney King riots, my shotgun purchase definitely fell into that category. I just wanted a shotgun, didn’t care what it cost, didn’t wait for a sale or shop around, I went to the store and bought the first one I saw that I thought would meet my needs.

    Someone new to prepping with deep pockets might buy a prepackaged freeze dried meal plan. Write the check and your pallet of mountain house arrives in a week. One year’s food for 4 adults, done! I saw a pallet go for $1200 in an auction. Much cheaper, but I’ve only seen it 2 times in 10 years.

    Someone with fewer resources might take the slower approach, buying the minimal bulk food list right away, and then adding cans and other stuff as it comes up on sale. Some folks might be tapped out just adding a couple of sale items a week into their normal grocery shopping. They’ll get to their goal, but it won’t be fast…

    My personal preference is for good and cheap, MOST of the time, and for MOST things. It’s not better or worse than someone else’s, just different.

    I’ve been doing it for a while and the world still hasn’t ended, so normalcy bias says I’ve got time left… (maybe not.) On the other hand, I’ve used that time to get to a much more comfortable place considering world affairs. If I was starting out now, I’d be ‘panic buying.’ I think time is short, so I could justify the added cost.

    Speaking of short time, if I have time, I might go thru one of my GHBs and compare what I spent to what someone might spend if they just went out and bought that stuff, and if they bought top of the line…. but realistically, I’d be better off doing ebay listings so I can clear space for preps and get the money!

    nick

  16. lynn says:

    @lynn, you are talking about the quality triangle, or depending on what industry you are in, the ‘production triangle.’

    Draw a triangle. At each vertex write a word, good, fast, cheap.

    Underneath write “pick any TWO.”

    I have described (in repetitive detail ) how I trade time for money (good and cheap.)

    It sounds like you trade money for time (good and fast.)

    Yes, I have little time (or patience) for doing repetitive things. But last night, I was replacing the toilet tank fill valve on the daughter’s ensuite toilet. Got the 10 minute job done without flooding her tiny (5 ft by 7 ft) bathroom. And then was attaching the bowl makeup line to the overflow pipe when the piece of junk overflow pipe broke off. The plastic overflow pipe was rotted at the base. Sigh. Sometimes it is just not worth trying to save money by hiring a professional.

    Note that fast and cheap won’t be good!

    But my partners keep on claiming so ! They tell me that I should be able to hire high school teenagers to program for me. For cheap ! And they are fast ! And they are good ! This is the gospel according to known industry sources according to them.

    BS.

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